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Geek Trivia: What outside group forces the Large Hadron Collider to shut down every winter?

The Large Hadron Collider answers to an agency that forces the installation to shut down for over three weeks every winter -- and for a reason most don't expect.

This week's quibble comes from the Sept. 2, 2011 edition of Geek Trivia, which asked which Manhattan Project scientist won the group's infamous 'doomsday' betting pool?

TR member George_Butel didn't so much quibble as demand extra backmatter:

I would like to see more details about who was worrying about worst-case scenarios of Trinity. I would also like to see citations for the 'side bet.' What were the other pool options--earth's crust cracks, atmosphere catches on fire, or what, besides 'only' wiping out New Mexico?

I couldn't track down additional side bet details -- believe me, I really wanted to -- but member RG Bargy had info on the main doomsday pool:

What we should all stand in awe of is that at Fermi's insistence, the team decided that before the test shot, they should try to work out whether the "chain reaction" they hoped to initiate would ever stop - i.e. would the first bomb be the last, because it destroyed the entire planet. The team members set to the task (headed by Teller) did all this without computers. See "Edward Teller - The Real Dr. Strangelove" by Peter Goodchild (pub 2004) at page 104. The side bet is recorded (with Teller and Oppenheimer's predictions as well as Rabi's) lower down on the same page.

The side bet details are vague, but apparently Oppenheimer thought the first bomb would have a yield of less than a third of a kiloton. Talk about a pessimist. Thanks for the info, and keep those quibbles coming!

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21 comments
Awahili Guni
Awahili Guni

But wasn't sure what exactly though, knowing Power and Winter doesn't really get along too well except if you were in Russia (USSR) or Siberia; don't know how they do it and don't want to know either nor do not invite me to their Ice Hotel with their Ice Bar either. :-P So does being half right count?

AnsuGisalas
AnsuGisalas

and managed to find the particle responsible for Murphy's Law They call it the Biggs Hoson.

mwhooper
mwhooper

I know that most everything everywhere in Europe closes down for 3 to 4 week vacations in the summer. I thought this was the winter version.

Slayer_
Slayer_

Well, I figured it had something to do with electricity and heating.

labattomy
labattomy

Honestly I thought it would be to perform housekeeping tasks like sweeping the floor of the chamber and cleaning up all the mess those darn colliding particles leave... "..I just cleaned up this place !!..."

Spitfire_Sysop
Spitfire_Sysop

It was mentioned that a previous month long shut down was due to failure of a coolant system but there was no mention of the uncanny cause of this coolant failure. A time traveler (Eloi Cole) from the future was aprehended at the LHC site for walking around without an access badge. He said he dropped a baguette in to the air intake system in order to change the course of history where in the future the LHC project had unforseen consequences. http://crave.cnet.co.uk/gadgets/man-arrested-at-large-hadron-collider-claims-hes-from-the-future-49305387/

CharlieSpencer
CharlieSpencer

I figured it was a herd of critters on their annual migration through the area, either causing or subject to some vague form of potential harm.

escale
escale

Hey! I think you also missed the frustrated gold-mine TV show one-season-only Flash Forward. Where colliding particles in the LHC creates a global blackout and the whole world saw its future for 2 minutes and 17 seconds. Trivia: in the first episode Seth McFarlane acts as FBI agent.

AnsuGisalas
AnsuGisalas

knowing what winter is like probably helps :p :D I toyed with the idea that it was Brigitte Bardot using the tunnel as a training track for her fur-tracking killer ferrets, but then I figured, nah - it's supposed to be a non-gov org, definitely the power company.

sboverie
sboverie

The link was funny. So a time traveler comes from a future where the Higgs Bosun discovery led to unlimited power, end of poverty and kit kats for everyone.

Jay Garmon
Jay Garmon

"...the Large Hadron Collider was a central plot device in both the prose and screen versions of Dan Browns Angels & Demons and Robert J. Sawyer's FlashForward."

seanferd
seanferd

It isn't sexist or idiotic, and it is funny, so - win!

CharlieSpencer
CharlieSpencer

weren't early colliders cleaned by sending through a skirt-wearing ferret? Seriously.

AnsuGisalas
AnsuGisalas

and you get the image of an epic cockfight.

CharlieSpencer
CharlieSpencer

http://history.fnal.gov/felicia.html She didn't actually clean it. She pulled the leader line through that the tech then used to pull the 'mophead'. Don't let the last headline put you off. 'falls victim to robot' means 'replaced by robot'.

Spitfire_Sysop
Spitfire_Sysop

For some reason this just makes the world a brighter place. Thanks Palmetto.

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