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Video: PC versus Mac versus payday

Everybody loves a good Mac vs. PC commercial spoof, but this one might hit just a little too close to home for some of the Apple fanatics out there. Especially given the current economic climate.

Everybody loves a good Mac vs. PC commercial spoof, but this one might hit just a little too close to home for some of the Apple fanatics out there. Especially given the current economic climate.

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19 comments
chelless
chelless

Stupid. This reminds me of Fox News trying to prove they're just as hip and funny as John Stewart and Colbert... it's an asinine spoof, makes no sense, besides, most people who use a Mac are quite satisfied, happy, and prolific with their choice.

adamblevins
adamblevins

Having been in IT support & project management for 13 years, I've seen and used countless of computers. Prior to Parallels, I had always considered Mac's to be a cute (but powerful) machine, for "basic users" (surfing & email) and media production users. PC's were the basic number crunching, hacking, all around down and dirty machines for daily use. The comparison might be a Mini Cooper to one a Chevy Avalanche (4 door, 4x4 sedan-truck). However, when you take into account the following, why wouldn't anyone consider switching? 1. The ability to run Windows compatible software simultaneously with Mac software 2. Similar hardware platform to PC 3. Predictability/stability of Mac OS 4. Ability to boot into Unix 5. Ease of use 6. Aesthetics 7. Cost v.s. down time/frustration

jasondlnd
jasondlnd

I bought a macbook last year, and I absolutely love it. The networking and diagnostic tools are MUCH better in OSX than they are in Windows, as the networking tools in OSX are tied to Unix. I am able to troubleshoot and diagnose network connections with a lot more ease with my Mac than I was able to in Windows. My Macbook can run OSX, Linux, Windows, and Unix with ease. My desktop PC balks every time I try to run a Linux distro or if I try to run Unix. My Windows XP machine comes to a halt fairly frequently, due to a system error or device driver issue. Whenever I use Windows, the thought in the back of my mind is "Okay, how long can I use this machine before it crashes?" Not so with Mac! My Mac has experienced only one Kernel Panic since I have had it. Even so, the entire OS was not brought to a halt. I was still able to shut down and restart normally. Not so with Windows! I like the flexibility, freedom, and reliability of my Macbook. If I could run OSX on my desktop PC, I would!

yobtaf
yobtaf

Can you run OS X on your PC? If you can't afford one stop grousing. OS envy I think

warhippy1
warhippy1

I bought a MacBook Pro with the first generation dual core Pentium chip. I was basically tired of dealing with Microsoft's non-existent customer support. It was FAST!! Then I said, "OK" to a firmware upgrade, and it stopped working, PERIOD!! Apple's customer support makes Microsoft look good! The only help I found was in the community bulletin board, and it wasn't much help. I found hundreds of posts complaining about the upgrade killing their machines. About ten posts stated that they had been able to use the 'fix' provided by Apple to get their machine running again. It was suggested by the remainder, to take your laptop into an Apple center, where they would REPLACE the mainboard. That got me suspicious, since they were still offering the upgrade as a necessary part of the whole Mac experience, without fixing the glitch. I waited three months for them to fix the problem without replacing the mainboard, my machine only had about 40 hours of use at that time. I finally gave in, and took my laptop into their center, they replaced the mainboard, and I took it home. It was WAY slower than before!! I looked in the bulletin board and found numerous other complaints of a slower machine after the mainboard replacement. Since Microsoft has made my awareness of dishonesty into almost a paranoid complex, I've come up with my idea of what I think took place: Apple could have run up against a shortage of a certain chip installed on their mainboard, and used a faster chip in it's place to fill the orders of Macs. Laptops were experiencing hotter temperatures than were acceptable until after the mainboard replacement, that would explain that. OR, Apple might have put a faster chip on the mainboard to boost sales, because of the noticeable speed increase, and PLANNED the re-harvesting of the faster chip, using the firmware upgrade as a ruse to accomplish the task. Maybe more excuses are available, and I just don't see them, being blinded by Microsoft's contemptible track record with "pulling the wool over it's customer's eyes" tactics. I'd like to think Apple was above that kind of sales tactics, but I really haven't trusted an operating system since I stopped using my Commodore Amiga, after they went out of business. Bottom line is, my laptop is at least as slow as a PC laptop, so where's the benefit of owning a Mac? I don't know!!

m.dupont
m.dupont

LOL! I'm a PC tech guy and i have to work with more and more Mac lately. I think the choice comes down to software. In my own experience, video software for the PC is overall bad, buggy, over stuffed with useless feature and hard to use. I used video editing with the MAC's, and found that was pretty good. The only negative was when it came to support for wilder video formats. Might i recommend TMPGEnc for the PC.

themanshan
themanshan

Yeah I agree that Macs are cooler than PCs but why do they have to be so much more expensive. Apple could really challenge Microsoft if the price was more competitive. They have started to challenge the PC market but they could still do better. And these old stereotypical arguments that you see in these commercials are getting tired. Themanshan

Mark
Mark

I hate to belabor the point but being "satisfied, happy and prolific" generally leads to happier paydays as well... Hell, my customers pay us to get things done, not to putz around with sound card drivers or network glitches.

rwaters
rwaters

I have a macBook Pro (Dual core Intel) for work, and my personal notebook, and HP AMD Turion Dual-Core. Both run quite well. On the MAC I run OSX, Parallels, and then Windows and Linux (2 versions Mandriva & Ubuntu) under Parallels. My home notebook runs Windows and Mandriva dual-boot. The point is I like both machines. My money was spent on a 2 x 1.8 GHZ HP w/ 2GB main memory and 2 easily removable 80 GB drives, and wide 17" screen. It cost $850 last year. My Mac cost over $3000 with the MAC MS Office suite installed and Parallels. I could run VMWare on Windows and have both the OS's I really need for work (Windows & Linux) and be very happy. BTW, I programmed Macs in the late 80's, so I am not a newbie. The MAc is too expensive, and just another set of tools to learn. Also not as many packages, open source, are available for the AMC and the ./configure make sequence often takes LOTs of modifications. BTW, what is with the the default Tiger or Leopard coming without installed versions of gcc or g++?

warhippy1
warhippy1

After spending $3000+ for a Macbook Pro, and needing to take it in to an Apple(supposed)Tech Center Store with only 40 hours on the machine, to have the mainboard replaced because of my mistakenly trusting install of an Apple necessitated firmware upgrade, I have OS envy. I'm envious of the THREE people who bought PC laptops for the combined price of the one defective Macbook Pro that I bought. If you think that is value producing, you better check your load, you're a few bricks shy and overloaded with money. I guess I have to also add that I felt it necessary to also buy a wireless keyboard because I'm hopelessly addicted to a 'Delete' key, and the onboard keyboard has the 'backspace' key mistakenly marked, 'Delete', with no other key that does the same task. Oh yeah, I also had to buy another mouse, because it only has one mouse button, and even though there HAS to be a way to right click using that one button in combination with a keyboard key, to me, that makes it a two-handed operation, which is in no way worth an extra $2000. Yeah Dude, go ahead and toot Apple's horn, but ya know what? It sounds sorta like the horn on Clarabelle's waist, from the old Howdy Doody Show.

Another Canadian
Another Canadian

Maybe Mac will be the next to open their OS, to the market or maybe not but until then I get what I paid for and not a appliance. I want a computer not a cute little box that look good in the kitchen, ok if it look good fine but not at the expense of DYS repair or expension, My computer is quality and work fine and did not cost me an arm and leg because it is not the last trendy overbloow fashion like " I need and Iphone or Ipood. You could get all this good product if you look around without been looked like your applicance of Mac ;). If you want a all in one Go Mac I agree for me it still PC = liberty to choose and not been boxed in a corner. The only thing that look very good in my house are my kids and wife, outside that it remain symantic.

Another Canadian
Another Canadian

The computer work fine for the price, I could have better of course if I want SLI or bigger power supply but it play my game and I have recycled my 5 years old pc in a new case Antec SonattaIII come with a included power supply put my old mother board in it,( was cheaper then bought a power supply alone and got windows home server in it and have now a media server and central pc backup. For me Linux or Microsoft = freedom on how I want my computer to run. So if you want a all in one go Mac they are better at that but for freedom no way.

yobtaf
yobtaf

I can handle any format on my Mac. Don't forget that the Mac is quickly becoming the choice of professional film editors. That is not not because of format limitations.

Mark
Mark

I am not a "Mac Fan" - I own a small software house and have developed on the Windows platform since the early 90s (and DOS before that). Our products are for Windows and Web. Indeed, I'd bet that I know Windows internals as well as anyone likely to be reading this piece. But - I am now in the process of converting our whole office to the Mac with VMWare / Windows in place just to access Visual Studio and our old line of business app. Why? Well, first, the argument that you'll make more money with a PC or that Macs are just for "creative" tasks is laughably outdated and stupid. Especially with Parallels or VMWare's fusion, the Mac can do anything the PC can do. Second, we were burned big time when Vista came out: our Windows products worked just fine under Vista with one exception - Microsoft's own database technology (upon which we had relied) simply did not work on Vista. So, we had to create a new build using a new version of the database that added nothing to our product - it was totally sunk COST. Vista support issues are often more difficult as we struggle to get people to make even the simplest changes to their computers without running afoul of UAC. More lost TIME for us and our customers. Vista networking fails just often enough to drive us nuts. I have a networking MCSE on staff and he has no explanation - it just fails intermittently. I've worked with networking for years - even building my own IP services - and I can't figure it out either. When Vista came out, we went through our office and found out that only ONE of our nearly two dozen PCs 'qualified' for the Vista upgrade. When we upgraded that one, the sound wouldn't work (it was weeks before a patch came out). Contrast this with Leopard. I had purchased one Mac for evaluation before Leopard came out. When Leopard was released, I didn't even check for compatibility - I just popped in the CD, went to run errands and came back to a new OS. No driver problems, no crashes, no hardware incompatibilities, NOTHING WENT WRONG. THAT is money in the bank... As a small business owner, I don't have room to screw up nor do I have the luxury of being a "Mac Fanatic" or anything of the sort. I just need to keep my business running smoothly. Macs simply do that better than Vista - period. Just to let you know, after being blown away by the ease of the Leopard upgrade, I purchased about $20K more Apple computers for the rest of the office. So, yes, I've put my money where my mouth is. Mark Brittingham Califon, NJ

pkdesign
pkdesign

Funny how these spoofs want to make fun of Mac's creative side but no one wants to mention that Microsoft Office, and a slew of other "business" apps work just fine on Mac. All those lovely spreadsheets and charts are equally easy to create on the Mac. What exactly exotic applications do these "business" need in order to get their work done?

zen71001
zen71001

I have used both platforms for the last 15 years. Macs were more expensive in the past but these days its no longer true if you compare like with like. One reason Macs have a reputation for rugged reliability is that the build quality and components are better quality than the average PC. the spec is also higher out of the box. Recently I wanted to run a high end Windows only CAD program on my PC which on paper was more powerful than the Intel Mac Laptop along side it. However I had to spend an additional 3000USD on a high end graphics card for the PC to run the program smoothly. Then I found the Mac ran it via Boot Camp FASTER and with no additional hardware. I have just finished my year end accounts on my old PowerPC Laptop which is 8 years old this month. It still runs fine. Still runs the latest Mac Operating system Mac OS X still runs fast enough to be useful. Try installing Vista on an eight year old PC Laptop and try and make it useable. Compare like for like and Macs are not more expensive now. Compare Total cost of ownership and macs have always been cheaper.

TheGooch1
TheGooch1

I agree with the core of your point. Custom PC's are way the go if you only want to upgrade parts that need to be faster. I purchased a pre-built computer once and only once, and it died soon after I turned it on for the first time. I never got a replacement computer after I went through their RMA process. RIght then I knew that vendor-built computers were not for me. I built my first PC computer in 1993 with parts from various stores, flea markets ( serious! ),etc and it ran until I got tired of it. It was a 286, a 386, and a 486 CPU computer, with varying but always increasingly larger hard drives. If something dies in my current computer,most recently being a power supply that I fried during a CPU/Memory upgrade, I can quickly replace it as I keep old parts that work in the computer but perhaps are slower. Say the CPU, Mobo, Memory, HD, or whatever blows up, I got spares to fix it with. As far as speed goes, I am behind the curve as dual-core requires a larger upgrade than I want to deal with right now. Want Freedom, go PC. Want to be chained to your computer and the associated low-quality tech-support? Go MAC. Btw, as far as OS goes, I never tried MAC OS, so no comment there. Linux proved to not meet my needs where software and ease of use are concerned, so Windows PC is the sweet spot for me.

handyman46m
handyman46m

Seems like an unnecessary and expensive decision - especially without testing your software on it first.

Mattoc
Mattoc

we priced high spec'd (for a school 2gb ram 256 video same hdd size as imac) pc's and macs. 28000 for 28 PC's 52000 for 28 macs. 3yr onsitewarranty pc's come imaged macs add 250 plus windows license if you want to dual boot into windows. They would want to be built better. They would want to last longer.