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Former editor of PC Magazine disses Vista


BadVista.orgFormer editor of PC Magazine, Jim Louderback, has penned a new piece on his column about his thoughts pertaining to Windows Vista.

A former advocate of Microsoft's latest operating system, he now expresses his dissatisfaction with it.

Excerpt from his column:

I've been a big proponent of the new OS over the past few months, even going so far as loading it onto most of my computers and spending hours tweaking and optimizing it. So why, nine months after launch, am I so frustrated? The litany of what doesn't work and what still frustrates me stretches on endlessly.

Among Jim's complaints is that sleep mode is "poppycock," with experiences with sleep mode either not happening at all or the PC refusing to come out of sleep mode with anything less than a cold start.

Networking is also problematic, with network shares and printers inexplicably dropping out. Wireless apparently takes up to 30 seconds to connect where it was virtually instantaneous with Windows XP previously.

Honestly, I have not had more than a cursory experience with Windows Vista so far. Tell us about your top grouses of Windows Vista.

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Paul Mah is a writer and blogger who lives in Singapore, where he has worked for a number of years in various capacities within the IT industry. Paul enjoys tinkering with tech gadgets, smartphones, and networking devices.

24 comments
Jim Phelps
Jim Phelps

Finally someone speaks objectively, rather than simply spouting the party line.

Rodney.Owen
Rodney.Owen

It seems that if you need to get your name heard in IT circles these days you just blast Vista. I have used all versions of Windows and many Linux and Solaris versions and found that they all work well if you actually know how to use a computer. I have been using XP and VISTA a lot for development work and have not had a crash on either for many years. I read all about these problems with VISTA but have not been able to find the same. Many of the articles we are seeing paying out on VISTA are just rehashes of those that came out with XP. It is a sad state of affairs but so typical of the "I want to show my cleverness" brigade that have infested the IT industry.

dobbinsm
dobbinsm

I don't have to have 'all eyes on me' in the 'cleverness brigade' as you call it because, if you haven't noticed, I rarely respond to any blogs. Apparently you do though, because you have to reply with angry tortes such as the on you just left.

Genera-nation
Genera-nation

Out of interest?

paulmah
paulmah

Apparently, he's in the publishing/editorial line for many years. Became the editor of PC Magazine for a few years - have just left to be the CEO of another company (Sounds like a start-up)

dobbinsm
dobbinsm

I have to agree with Jim Louderback (though I don't care for his editorial abilities). After all of the hot fixes and downloads and tweaking and adjusting, there is still problems with Vista OS. It seems the the problems are endless. I think Microsoft really screwed this one up! It needs to go back to the drawing board and get started over. Hey, but who knows? Maybe Microsoft played it this way so they can come out with a "New and Improved" operating system in the future. How else can you make more money? Maybe they will call it Windows Vista Second Edition? In the mean time, all you can do is hope your patience doesn't wear out before your PC does.

grax
grax

"Maybe Microsoft played it this way so they can come out with a "New and Improved" operating system in the future. How else can you make more money? Maybe they will call it Windows Vista Second Edition?" They are already on record as saying that their next offering will launch in three years time. So, perhaps: "Microsoft Windows Vista Millennium+10"? Then again, they told us that their current offering would launch three years after XP was launched in 2001. Not holding one's breath here. To those who complain that the continued criticism of Vista is unhelpful, I disagree. Discussion of the errors and omissions, as well as possible workarounds is most instructive, particularly to those who haven't yet jumped in as well as to those who have and found themselves up to their necks in la merde.

meryllogue
meryllogue

I haven't had any problems with Vista per se. I play LOTRO from 1-3 times a week. I seem to have a problem in my video display driver occassionally that causes a huge white flash and then the video on my game locks for 2 or 3 minutes. (Quite the pain when you can here your toon getting whacked, but cannot do anything about it.) There is no update yet for that, btw. It is a very high-end video card (a class 4 of 5), 2GB RAM, using a USB drive for extra.

AstroCreep
AstroCreep

Thank God. I've subscribed to the magazine for a few years now and it's gone way downhill since he's taken over (in my opinion, anyway). It's gone from an enthusiast magazine to something that reads more like press-releases for anything 'techie', like they rolled up that dumb 'Sync' magazine into it. Hopefully things will improve now, but I'm not holding my breath. Hello Computer Power User. :p

CharlieSpencer
CharlieSpencer

Loudermilk's commentary in the Aug 21 issue says they were "overwhelmed" with reader feedback requesting "more core PC coverage". They've started an on-line poll to vote for suggested articles. That same issue included a 6-page article on RAM!

rmctwo
rmctwo

My sleep mode works absolutely fine. My wireless connections are also able to connect quickly.

jmgarvin
jmgarvin

Wireless in Vista is a total mess, it makes wireless in Linux look clean by comparison. The sleep mode nightmare seems to plague many users, but MS claims it's nothing more than user error..

boxfiddler
boxfiddler

Billy's butt. We now have about 150 +/- Vista boxes up and running at work. Not a single one of them will 'wake up'. While few of us are as well-versed as most of you folks out here, we are as a rule comfy and quite capable with Windows. Until Vista. Wireless doesn't work for **** either on any of the department laptops. Folks are not happy that have them and are using their own XP laptops.

Locrian_Lyric
Locrian_Lyric

Our shop put out the word.... NO VISTA UNDER PAIN OF DEATH!

boxfiddler
boxfiddler

lol The whole department got the memo. Several of us are working on learning Linux, and hopefully we will soon be teaching Intro, Intermediate and Advanced Linux. Let's see what happens when the Community College District starts shifting gears. Bet we can do lots with the money we save.

jmgarvin
jmgarvin

MS KNOWS that IT pros don't know what they are doing with Vista. Vista is just too new and far too cool for the IT pros to even comprehend let alone administer! Who cares that you can't use GPOs with Vista!? Who cares that wireless is a mess and sleep mode doesn't work!? I mean, it looks cool, runs slow, and eats resources...what could be better?

rmctwo
rmctwo

There was one thing I forgot. Complete PC image backup does not work or has changed it's functionality. I have an expnsive coaster collection where I have attempted to back up my system drive.

Neon Samurai
Neon Samurai

If it was DVD, wow.. ouch. There is a good question in that though; What does one backup a disk image onto these days? A DVD is 4 gig A high density (once a format is finally standardized) is something like 16 gig A backup tape can be in the tarabyte range but they're not at the local computers-R-us A hard drive is 200+ gig these days gah.. that means a NAS raid backup box but event then, your still keeping the backups in a dynamic medium. Business has the luxury of data centres and freakishly huge tapes for archive storage. Has anyone come up with a viable geek home solution?

paulmah
paulmah

Tell us about your top grouses of Windows Vista.

jcmolette
jcmolette

I had to take leave of TechRepublic back in 2003 just because of some of the crap that can be read on particular thread. I loaded up XP back in the day and had a few bumps in the road, but by and large it's been a very good operating system. Likewise, I loaded up Vista Ultimate about three months ago a ASROCK ALiveNF6G motherboard, AMD Sempron 2800+ CPU with 1 gig of no name RAM (256 meg dedicated to onboard video) and a 80 gig Seagate SATA II hard drive, a Canon LIDe 20 scanner, ancient Kodak 3400 digital camera and a LG CD/DVD writer all stuck in an old case with a 350 watt Power Supply plus a $5 mouse and a $10 keyboard. I've since dumped every piece of software I can dig up on this machine and everything works with the exception of MetaProducts Download Express. I went to the web to get a Vista update for Download Express and it still doesn't act right. It took me a few tries to figure out the networking menues (shame on MS) but all in all the system just works. I'll have to admit that I'm annoyed at having to dig around to find everything. But this big bru ha ha about resources is a bunch of baloney. 1 Gig of RAM costs next to nothing these days and I'll bet you dollars to donuts that 90% of you out there are not using heavy duty applications in the daily use of your machine. Oh yes, by the way, if want to do NAS on the cheap, just add a couple of HDDs to you system. The ethernet is built-in on most motherboard and if the RAID isn't already on board, the cost of a add-in card is nothing compared to buying a plug in NAS box. Not technically inclined? There are USB boxes that can hold a couple of drives...

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ByteBin-20472379147970077837000261110898

I just got an IBM T61 with Windows Vista Home Premium pre-loaded. Never had any problems with Sleep modes. I even had it hybernate overnight and then the next morning all came up just fine. Just flip the top, *move the mouse* (this is a must otherwise the screen will stay black) and then type in your password and everything comes back up the way it was the night before. Nice! :) Wireless networking is instantaneous. Once booted (or out of hybernation/sleep) it is online and ready. I have to say though, I have had some hangups, two of which required turning the machine completely off and back on. But overall, the system seems stable. I even set up printer sharing, plugged in my Kodak EasyShare 330 Camera and it installed drivers right there and got my pictures using PhotoShop Elements 5. No problems. Norton AntiVirus was a bit tricky to add though as I had to uninstall the pre-installed trial of Norton's suite and then go online and get a copy of Norton AntiVirus for Vista in order to get that working, but it wasn't too bad. And it works really well. I am beginning to like Vista. And I was very apprehensive about it at first since I had heard all the bad things/incompatabilities. But it isn't quite as bad as I thought. I can even run Virtual Machine 2007 in it with the VPC files being accessed via network. No problems there either (and run Unbuntu Server 6.06.1 in VPC as well!) You just sometimes have to ignore the incompatability warnings (check to never show them again) in that case. But it does work. So far my experiences with Vista has been mostly positive. But for laptop use, I guess I really don't need a whole lot of frills.

CharlieSpencer
CharlieSpencer

This is a least the third "Vista Gripe-a-palooza" discussion this summer. Okay, so you don't like it. Microsoft isn't lurking here gathering improvements for SP1. Either load Linux or XP, or suck it up. TR, give it a break. This topic gets started enough on it's own without the staff or contributors having to resurrect it.

compguy101101
compguy101101

I like many of you were skeptable about the new Microsoft OS after hearing the horror stories about users experiences. But none the less I installed it on my new system unwillingly but kept thinking that it's better to learn it now before it gets implemented then learn it while in production. So I have dabbled in the OS for about a month and there is quite a learning curve for the new OS. And by the way I am using Vista Ultimate. I have had to relearn where alot of the menus are and where they have been taken away, in which some I am dissapointed to see not there anymore. But my experience so far has been less of a headache than I imagined it would be. A few programs I had to figure out that I have to tell them to run as administrator. It is kind of bothersome that I am promted to run anything and everything, but that is just a minor inconvienence that I have not been able to mitigate yet. The only major problem that I have cringed about was that Nero 6 Ultra absolutely will not install. It will crash on the install and still in stall and fail to launch the executable after the failed install. Other than that, I have found that the Vista Ultimate has been a pleasant experience. I'm sure that having an oober fast computer helps quite a bit but I agree that the resources to run the system are quite rediculous. But even there I have had no system bottlenecks and actually my internet runs faster.I still have 8 more months to change my opinion but thus far it has been clear sky's.

boxfiddler
boxfiddler

4G Cruzer Micros, in spite of what few tweaks I have managed to dig up and employ. We run dual boot XP/Vista machines, and the XP boots shut them down just fine. But no... not Vista. On our lab machines, Vista won't connect with my public drive profile (probably not properly phrased, but oh well) so that I can edit my public folder for my students. Big ones for me.

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