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Networking woes plague Ubuntu 7.10

Canonical's Ubuntu 7.10, which was just released last week, is running into some snags. Also called the Gutsy Gibbon, the newest release of Ubuntu was touted as "delivered on a stable, easy to use and learn platform." However, there appears to be issues with its implementation of IPv6 and DHCP.

Canonical's Ubuntu 7.10, which was just released last week, is running into some snags.

Also called the Gutsy Gibbon, the newest release of Ubuntu was touted as "delivered on a stable, easy to use and learn platform." However, there appears to be issues with its implementation of IPv6 and DHCP.

Indeed, a glance at the community forums for Ubuntu suggests that users are experiencing some headaches for both fresh installations and upgrades.

Excerpt from The Register:

Many HP and Sony users have also experienced hardware support issues with the upgrade complaining that the latest version is less compatible than its predecessor, Feisty Fawn.

Our reader told us that Gutsy Gibbon's Internet access "whether by wireless; ethernet or USB DSL modem is either impossible without some deft work at the CLI [Command Line Interface] or is incredibly slow (mostly from delay in resolving DNS)".

Have you tried Ubuntu 7.10 yet? Did you face any problems with connecting to the Internet?

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Paul Mah is a writer and blogger who lives in Singapore, where he has worked for a number of years in various capacities within the IT industry. Paul enjoys tinkering with tech gadgets, smartphones, and networking devices.

24 comments
pennatomcat
pennatomcat

ndiswrapper with my Atheros ar5007eg wireless. I'm running LinuxMint (Gutsy 7.10) on my Toshiba P205D-S7802. A link to the driver is on the Atheros site.

drjoewebb
drjoewebb

I tried to load Ubuntu and Kubuntu at different times on a notebook I have that was Ubuntu 6.10 and updated online to 7.04. It was running well, but I wanted to kill the dual boot and just make it a Linux computer. It's an Averatec notebook (a 3200) I no longer need, so it's my own little "test lab" so to speak. I could get it to load, but the wireless, even though I tried everything that was suggested on a special help wiki (all of those diagnostics, turning off ipv6, and all that stuff). I had the same problem with 7.04 when I had attempted a fresh install rather than the automatic update. Ubuntu and its derivatives work great when wired to a network, but wireless, is one could say, a bit "feisty." My network was always recognized by 7.04 and 7.10 in Ubuntu and Kubuntu, but never connected. I had similar problems with a System76 notebook a few months ago that I returned... the wireless would connect and then slowwwlyyyy dieeee....... The only way I could get wireless to work on the Averatec was to load 6.10. I tried updating through their system to 7.04, and the whole system locked. This notebook had also Xandros quite quite well, with everything working out of the box except for a video tweak or two. The notebook is now running Kubuntu 6.10 beautifully. Finding 6.10 is hard to do, since they want you to get 7.10 or 6.06 LTS versions, but I found it at http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/kubuntu/edgy/ I assume these problems would not occur on my desktop system which is wired to the network. But for now, I have Xandros running on that and have no desire to change that at this time, except perhaps for the next Kubuntu LTS version in April. Xandros is also running my Windows software just fine using CrossOver Linux (WINE). Xandros 5 might be available at that time as well.

Absolutely
Absolutely

I'm cautiously optimistic about the possibility that Ubuntu will make Linux accessible to "casual" users. I also hope it eventually progresses to the quality control standards of more mature distros.

doctorisham
doctorisham

Have never had a single problem with the Network Support in Ubuntu. I don't use IPv6 in any of my implementations, so I can't comment on that.

advanracing62
advanracing62

Been using FF and now GG in production on client pc, as well as home. Production has seen 0 issues with networking, while Home has been less than happy. NIC drops connection and goes to WIFI at random. A reboot seems to solve the issue for a while. The home pc was an up, while production was new install.

qhartman
qhartman

I've been using Gutsy on at least one computer since the Tribe 1 alpha release. I now have had contact with at least 6 installs, both clean installs and upgrades, and have yet to see any issues like you describe. I'm not using IPv6 though, so maybe that has something to do with it. Honestly though, who is? Further, this sounds like a lot of noise being made out of nothing. Reg's story mentioned _one_ reader who contacted them, and their link to the forum does not return a valid search. When I did a search for things like "gutsy network" or "gutsy dhcp" or "gutsy problem", nothing that I would call newsworthy shows up. The vast majority of the problems stem from people making mistakes, or (relatively rare) problems that affect all Linux distros, not just Gutsy. It seems to me like someone at El Reg wanted to ride some of the Gutsy hype. Too bad that they chose to do it with a trumped-up negative spin.

yschoo1
yschoo1

I'm with Shaw Cable broadband and encounter no problem what-so-ever. It is an instant on and I didn't have to set up anything. Then I'm not on wireless connexion. The only problem I have is with the RealPlay10Gold. It works, except sometimes the video just stay put not going anywhere. It has to do with my integrated video card. If I lower the resolution down to 1024 x 768, the problem is gone. My computer is the 6 to 7 years old Dell dimension L800r with 382 Mb sdram though. Can't really complain. I'm however still trying to get my HP Pavilion 7935 with a PCI ATI Radeon 7200 video card in it to work though. It will only boot up to the first logon screen. It goes black right after that. I'm sure the driver(s) that come with the Gutsy Gibbon can't work with the ATI Radeon 7200, period. Anybody has any idea how to resolve this? Please?

hoagies
hoagies

Yeah..... 'Mandriva 2008' comes with 'ATI' Drivers included.... This distro worked for me on my new Toshiba Satellite laptop.... The only thing not working is the 'wireless' function on the built-in 'Atheros' wireless card!! I've also downloaded, (but not burned yet). the new Kubuntu, which is also supposed to have the Nvidia and ATI drivrs included with it.... => The new Kubuntu is also available as a 4.32 Gb torrent download, x86 or amd64.... Pretty well the 'kitchen sink', I guess!!

hoagies
hoagies

Yeah.... It can't 'make work' the "Atheros Wireless Card" on my new Toshiba Satellite!! But then, many 'other' distros have problems with this Card.... 'Mandriva 2008' might be the closest to finally achieving this function, (and everything else).... May be??

lastchip
lastchip

I had a problem with Feisty not being able to handle WAP-PSK encryption. This is why I first tried PCLinuxOS, (Atheros chip) which worked straight out of the box. That may be an option to try. However, on the same Acer laptop, Gutsy works just fine from the live CD - both wired and wireless connections. So this thread is a bit of a mystery. Almost undoubtedly there is a problem, but just what it is remains illusive.

john.poiema
john.poiema

Ubuntu 7.10 is the easiest distro so far to connect with my Zyxel G-220 wireless. Not a problem here. All I need to do is select the detected connection I wish to use.

Techrepublic
Techrepublic

Well so far so good on both a old Panasonic CF-51 laptop, and a Dell GX620 desktop. On the laptop with wireless it seems to have a little delay resolving DNS, but not sure if that is Ubuntu or my wireless network. Ian

paulmah
paulmah

Did you face any problems with connecting to the Internet?

boxfiddler
boxfiddler

since Novenmber (?) 07 with no Internet connection problems and no need for intricate configuration via CLI. Now, it does take the same IP address as my router gateway IP which I don't like and can't reconfigure without playing in the command line. But that appears to have little to no detrimental effect on my small (3 machine) home network.

jao8470
jao8470

New to linux, and running a duel boot with vista. Ubuntu doesn't show my wireless card at all, any tips on how to install it. Or how to install a windows card wrapper?

Neon Samurai
Neon Samurai

Your install of Ubuntu may also not support your wifi card as well as another distribution. I would try the Mandriva One liveCD or a few other liveCD distributions just to see if they pick up the wifi card. that should confirm if there is native support, if the liveCD is using the kernel or a binary module or if ndiswrapper supports the windows driver. (the Mandriva Free install DVD will ask if you want to use a Windows driver then install it with a few gui steps).

Dumphrey
Dumphrey

on your wifi card. For ndiswrapper info: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper And plain wireless info: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WiFiHowTo As a general rule, native supported cards work a little better, but sometimes the ndiswrapper supports wpa better then the native tools... its really all on a per card basis. the command lspci will let you see your wifi card info.

jao8470
jao8470

can't seem to find an ndiswrapper driver that will work for my card. It's a newer toshiba laptop and the driver information on the website says it's for vista, the config for the card is, 8086:4229

WhatThe?
WhatThe?

I tried the upgrade path but that didn't work very well. Next came a new install of 7.10 and it went well enough, but now I've noticed that DNS resolution runs at a snails pace, and this is a wired connection running Verizon FiOS. I'm not sure it was worth all the effort just for some new graphics and Open-office 2.3.

jwoo
jwoo

I guess the Averatec laptops worked fine with 6.06 but by the time they hit 7.04 (Feisty) they introduced a regresssion bug that makes it look like the the network jack and wireless is loaded fine but won't work at all. You have to edit one of the boot files to get them to work. Same thing for Gutsy as well. I had to do this to get them to work at all but the wireless is loading as a B device. Still working on it though.

plong
plong

Interesting. I installed 7.10 (my 1st real look at Linux) on a Compaq N800C laptop and couldn't figure out why I couldn't get a reliable internet connection via wired or wireless connection. Now I know it's not me and my 1st attempt at installing Linux. EDIT: Sorry, this was suppose to be a new post, not a comment to jwoo's post.

shardeth-15902278
shardeth-15902278

And no problems with networking. In fact this is the first distro ever that was able to recognize and use the wireless adapter in my laptop, with zero fiddling.

spammethisway
spammethisway

Shame, I have been thinkin about upgrading to 7.10 but I guess I'll wait for the patches and stick 7.04 for now. If it is only IPv6 then I guess its not something that I should be too concerned about just yet.

ecuatt2
ecuatt2

I can easily access the internet through an ethernet interface aw well as through a Dynex best buy brand) wireless card. It is just as fast if not faster than the access on my xp.Also, all these things were acessed through running the live cd, not an actual install. I find it to be a pretty good os and plan on installing it in dual boot with xp soon.

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