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Safari 3.1 brings the Apple experience to Windows

The good folks over at Ars Technica decided to check out Safari 3.1 for new goodness fresh out from Mac-land. Their verdict? They were blown away with the improvements since Safari 3.0.

The good folks over at Ars Technica decided to check out Safari 3.1 for new goodness fresh out from Mac-land. Their verdict? They were blown away with the improvements since Safari 3.0.

The chief kudos here appears to be with that Safari 3.1 brings in support for CSS Web fonts and animations, as well as improving on existing support for SVG and HTML 5. Performance improvements rolled into this release certainly did not hurt, but standards compliance is where it really shines.

Excerpt from Ars Technica:

Standards compliance is impressive. Safari 3.1 scores a 75 on Acid 3, compared with a 53 on Firefox 2.0.0.12, 40 on Opera, and a paltry 12 on IE7 (I only looked at official releases, not betas; Safari on the Mac also scores a 75). Apart from sites using ActiveX and other browser-specific tech (like WM DRM), I had no trouble using sites in my normal browsing rotation, either. I had no trouble accessing American Express, Gmail, Citbank, Yahoo Mail, Digg, etc.

However, some users have complained of repeated crashes of Safari 3.1 on Windows. It does not seem to afflict everyone though, so it might be an issue that afflicts users of certain hardware or software configurations only.

On a separate note, Mozilla's chief executive, John Lilly, has hit out at Apple for including its Safari browser as a default add-on installation in an update for its popular iTune software.

So which is your favorite Web browser on Windows?

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Paul Mah is a writer and blogger who lives in Singapore, where he has worked for a number of years in various capacities within the IT industry. Paul enjoys tinkering with tech gadgets, smartphones, and networking devices.

22 comments
janfebmar
janfebmar

ArsT is the most non-neutral people out there. Anythin MAC/APPLE and they go all "oooh, this is the best out there". Every time, cant beat it.

paulmah
paulmah

So which is your favorite Web browser on Windows?

dinotech
dinotech

Whether you are an IE7 fan, a Firefox fan, or fan, this issue will not be resolved for some time. Firefox is gaining market share, but my experience is that the plug-in system has issues. For instance, if you have more than six plug-ins installed, Firefox slows down on initial launch because it has to update every plug-in. There are times where Firefox does freeze and has to be restarted. That was my experience; yours may differ. I also didn't like the bookmark system, didn't like having to download a host of plug-ins just to get interactive functionality (haven't tried 3.0 yet, but I have it downloaded). I've used Avant Browser and it definitely had some value over vanilla IE6. I'm currently using IE7 with IE7Pro and I like what I have. Are there issues? Sure, but not necessarily IE's fault. Most of the time its a toolbar issue, or IE7Pro issue (syncing bookmarks on two instances of IE has caused freezing issue). No problem - just get an update of IE7 and its fixed. So, the real issue here is what is your personal preference. What do you want out of your browsing experience? I have downloaded or will be downloading all versions of browsers since I am adding web development to my skill set.

rohitkaveeshwar
rohitkaveeshwar

well if u r in windows enviroment then firefox n if in mac the still prefer firefox iFirefox

vnoqmar
vnoqmar

Hi to all, well I have tried a benchmark test using both Safari 3.1 and Firefox the result Firefox won but Safari 3.1 is gud where the stabilty and more of the things were improved compare with the last Safari but comparing the fact in security, user friendly, customizable and easy configuring the credit goes to Firefox. I have never tried it in Mac pc's but with Windows, Firefox still standing firery and foxy ...

cenots
cenots

http://www.momtex.com Click on "Momentum Textiles" Click on "Category" under search. Fill out some search criteria (any!) and submit. Opera will crash every time, Mac or Windows, just as results are returned and we'd love to know why! I think the problem is somewhere in our CSS, but FF and IE run it just fine. Sorry Opera no can do!

Monsieur_Henri
Monsieur_Henri

Tested IE7, Safari 3.1, and Opera 9.26 with the same set of bookmarks on the same machine on a gnarly dial-up connection. Opera out-performs the other two easily.

ole
ole

Firefox is really the most stable browser and my favorite. Safari 3.01 is fast and will support multiple Gmail accounts concurrently in tabs (no other browser does that!), but it still does not fully support all of Gmail's features.

amj2010
amj2010

with the kernel of IE, file menu's at the right instead of left like FF...

DaveGuitar
DaveGuitar

I'm addicted to firefox, I used to like netscape navigator, then Microsoft nicked all the best bits from that, so I moved to internet explorer (reluctantly) but when I discovered firefox - it is just the best browser - period. There are loads of third party plugins/extensions that are great as well: especially HostIP.info Geolocation Plugin (for my paranoia) tells you the real geolocation of a link/domain, so you can tell if its spoofing and NoScripts which blocks all scripts.

Gis Bun
Gis Bun

Lately I dont trust Apple. Apple intends on adding their Safari browser as part of it's Apple Update software that's included with QuickTime and iPod software and it will be enabled to download by default. The only way to block Safari from installing (unintentially) is to check off from the Tools menu Ignore Selected Updates while Safari has a check box. Some have already said that what they are doing may go against one or more license agreements. I wonder how fast savvy tech people will comment on the description of Safari in the update software: "...is the fastest and easiest-to-use web browser for the PC. It displays web pages faster than any other browser and is filled with innovative features-- all delivered in an efficient and elegant user interface." Hmmm. Is that why Safari had 13 security flaws that were (probably) fixed recently? How hard is it to use a web browser ("easiest to use")? I think most don't want their web browser to look pretty ("elegant"), just that it works correctly. I use IE7 primarily and Firefox occasionally.

Ian Thurston
Ian Thurston

Picking a favorite browser is like picking your favorite relative - nobody wins. They all have good points. I like customizing Firefox, I like how snappy Opera can be, I like how many sites open in IE without quibbling, I like K-meleon and SeaMonkey, I even get a boot out of Lynx. While it's outside the scope of the question, most Linux Live distros provide a good opportunity to look at other approaches to browsing that are snappy with low overhead, too.

BrianBooher
BrianBooher

One time I thought there was not point in using Firefox over IE. Then I tried it out and found out all the things you can do with it. Now I am totally hooked onto Firefox. IE 7 is just Microsoft copying off of Firefox. Apple likes to lock down its users from doing anything else that what it wants you to do. There is no thinking outside the box with Apple.

curtmiller2
curtmiller2

I primarily use Firefox because of the ability to customize it. I like the foxmarks addon because I can sync my bookmarks on mac, linux, and windows. Safari is definitely faster on the mac (have not tried it on windows yet) than Firefox, but Firefox is more convenient for me, so I take that tradeoff. I think for sheer speed and low overhead, the fastest browser is Galeon running on the Gnome desktop.

johnnybravo
johnnybravo

Been using Opera for many years now and wouldnt use any other. Noticed some probs with Google Calendar with earlier 9.?? but seem to be ok now. Oh yeah ((AMERICAN))

serval1
serval1

I just tried it out. Worked absolutely fine with OPERA. Apparently you have probs with TWO browsers on your machine. So, maybe it's some other prob on your machine and not so much a prob of the browsers. I found OPERA to be by far the best of all the browsers I used (IE6,IE7,FF,SAFARI3.1,KONQUEROR). It is full of well working features without being bloated ...and it is fast and very secure. I often wonder why OPERA is used so little by Americans. Probably because they are malinformed.

geoff.wass
geoff.wass

You say Opera doesn't work at the http://www.momtex.com web site, but I find it works just fine. I don't know why you are having problems.

qhcomputingny
qhcomputingny

Yea, Opera has always been good, and they were the first to do tabbed-browsing which all of the other browsers bit off, their software doesn't seem to clog up computers either.. IE7 is still good and Safari is ok, though i have noticed sites it doesn't work on, so that kills it for me...

dinotech
dinotech

I've been using IE7 for a few years now. I've used Firefox - it is a good browser with a lot of third party plug-in support. I can't argue that Firefox is better than IE, but I can argue that a fully loaded Firebox (six plus plug-ins) isn't better than IE7 with IE7Pro Plug-in. There are times when IE7 has its issues (especially when a program loads a second instance of IE7 as a pop-up). The synchronization of my bookmarks when having two instances causes IE7 to lock up, but that is easily remedied with a new version of IE7Pro. Most of the sites I visit have no problem downloading. I use the RSS feed integration with Outlook constantly. But here is the case for IE7 with IE7Pro Plug-in: Host IP - IE7Pro used to have a tool tip over the Alexa/Google rating in the system bar, but you can easily find what the site is running from Netcraft. I add this to my Links. Great site. Geolocation - Again, I can find this information from Netcraft and or third party network tools. (see Tech Republic's 10 network tools article). NoScripts - IE7's security zone feature works. You just have to configure it. If I don't want scripts to run, I can turn them off. I could setup everything restricted except for the sites I frequent. So I don't need a plug-in. Dave, I'm not trying to convert you back. Use the browser you like the most. But as far as Firefox being the best, IE7 still has excellent functionality. The rendering engine needs some work, but for the most part, I haven't had a problem with IE7, and I don't see switching to any other browser. I've used Avant in the past and it is a great alternative to IE7. But with IE7Pro, I like the current setup I have. Dino

stephen.holland
stephen.holland

The same trigger happens when you download a lot of software when you have IE, there s always this desire in the download package to stick google into ie. If you forget to say no, try getting rid of it at least Safari uninstalls cleanly. What license agreements would you be in breach of by installing Safari? I use safari every day in both redmond land and on my mac. I find Safari far and away the best of the browsers I have used including the Redmond default, firefox and opera, I still enjoy my browsing experience.

DarcBird
DarcBird

Safari may be fast, but I don't think it's as configurable/customizable as Firefox. For instance, I can use "download helper" to download any video/sound file that appears on a web site.

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