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And now, an important message from Anonymous

Anonymous has declared war on Facebook with a video that threatens some kind of operation on November 5, 2011. Cyberthreat or PSA about guarding your privacy with more zeal?

Prepare for a day that will go down in history. November 5, 2011. We are Anonymous. We are legion. We do not forgive. We do not forget. Expect us.

Well no one can ever accuse Anonymous of not having a flair for the dramatic. In a weird, voice-altered Youtube video message (below), complete with ominous music, Anonymous is announcing its intent of taking down Facebook on the aforementioned date of November 5. So if you've been threatening to nuke your Facebook profile in favor of Google+, maybe you should just hold tight and let your Anonymous friends do it for you. According to the message, they are doing it for the greater good and exhorting people to "kill Facebook for the sake of your own privacy."

So Anonymous has flung down the gauntlet, but is it a real threat of cyberwar or just an extremely over-the-top PSA to "citizens of the world" to guard their privacy a bit more and view the world with an extra dose of paranoia? Now being the cynical person that I am, I would only half-jokingly submit that there is a corporate Facebook competitor behind this and not a passionate legion of world hackers. But that's just me.

Of course, as you geeks probably already know, November 5 is the anniversary of the 1605 Gunpowder Plot, which was aimed at blowing up the House of Lords in England and assassinating King James I -- also known as Guy Fawkes Day, also figuring significantly in the dystopian comic book series, V for Vendetta.

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71 comments
cory.schultze
cory.schultze

In my personal opinion, if you're stupid enough to put enough of your personal details into a publicly available source such as social networking for it to be a risk to the security of your identity, then you're gullible enough to believe that a bunch of four-eyed sociophobes will disconnect you from your self-centred little world and distribute your details freely, without consent. This same group apparently believes that a portal for people to communicate and share their lives on the cloud instead of in-person; is to blame for whatever objection they've fabricated to a man's rightful success, and not the individuals themselves. If they (Anonymous) really want to get their message across and be heard, maybe a live, un-distorted television broadcast would be more effective. Or are they afraid that their beliefs aren't justified? After-all, they're sharing and communicating (their views) on the Internet, and plan to take-down a site that provides the services to do just that. It's a load of hypocritical bull.

aferguson
aferguson

From Lulz sec post on Google+: Just so everyone knows OpFacebook is a hoax, and should not be trusted, it was probably started by the FBI/CIA to give anonymous a bad rep Antisec NB> Lulzsec + Anonymous = Antisec

brocksamson2011
brocksamson2011

I hate to admit it but as a IT Pro I don't like Facebook or really social networking in general (at least in its current form) and let me be CLEAR I don't think criminal activities are a good thing but with that said - FB needs to be taken down a notch so in some ways i don't have a problem with this attack....mostly b/c the true problem is greed and using peoples likes and dislikes to make an extra buck is wrong....People should not have to worry about their privacy vs advertising $$$ - Companies may need money to keep running but when they decide to consider the user before the $$$ things like this will happen less and when they prove the customer comes 1st in the end they will get more customers and more $$$ - problem is right now companies like FB consider the advertisers their customers instead of the users....well if you have no users, then you have no advertising dollars... But no one including FB will change except maybe to increase their security - so little will be accomplished.

flavanoone
flavanoone

People are so scary about everything this days. New sick generation without normal childhood grew up. On tv, internet etc. Just stand up, leave computer alone and go outside noobs. There is another life going there. Everyone got so big mystery to hide from facebook and from everyone. This is hyper paranoia I think it is some kind of PC maniac fear, illness, psychological issue. I swear more and more dumb kids are born. Read books.

pgit
pgit

This is going to be good. And if calls start pouring in complaining that "the computer doesn't work" I'll tell them to check another URL and send them to that anonymous video... :)

Regulus
Regulus

At the end of the YouTube version was a shot of a guy wearing a mask. If this was really an anonymous member, He should know that there was a critically personal identifying item in that shot.

HAL 9000
HAL 9000

I do however tend to agree with the complaints about Face Book, they are a nasty place with a known agenda that is impossible to escape from. Sort of like Scientologists only with a nice smile as you look at joining. The Scientologists are just plain laughing at you when you join thinking about how much they can take from you where as Face Book is thinking about How Much they can make from you. ;) [b]Remember[/b] even Paranoid people can have people watching them. :^0 :D :^0 :D [/Maniacal Laughter] Col

seanferd
seanferd

"Your aging young pal Ken"? His radio show was always "made possible by a grant from Anonymous". A lot of the headlines involving Anonymous these days tend to remind me of him.

bdfritts
bdfritts

Maybe Stephen Hawking IS Anonymous

john.oconnor
john.oconnor

So did anonymous also hack Stephen hawkings vocoder?

Neon Samurai
Neon Samurai

AnonOps claims no such event is planned (granted, nothing stopping some spinter faction of Anonimous from going ahead with it). " TO PRESS: MEDIAS OF THE WORLD... STOP LYING! #OpFacebook is just ANOTHER FAKE! WE DONT "KILL" THE MESSENGER. THAT'S NOT OUR STYLE #Anonymous about 12 hours ago via web Retweeted by 100+ people " https://twitter.com/#!/anonops/status/101152229087657984

boxfiddler
boxfiddler

I've marked my calendar. And set a reminder on my smart phone. God help me if my account does go down. :0

santeewelding
santeewelding

That you have nothing whatever to do with the editorial polish of Anonymous presentments.

santeewelding
santeewelding

What a novel, refreshing -- although, not entirely unanticipated -- thought. Spooks, spooks, and more spooks.

HAL 9000
HAL 9000

But I'm going to love him trying to explain his actions to the Feds when they come and collect him as a Self Confessed Member. :^0 :D :^0 :D Sort of reminds me of some Really Bright Criminals who spray painted fences on their way home and they then disposed of the spray cans in their front yard. They never understood how the Police found them. After all the Police couldn't possibly know which shop they had broken into and stolen paint and they certainly couldn't follow the defaced fences in a direct line from the Break In to the yard where they where living. Some people just make things so easy. :D Col

Neon Samurai
Neon Samurai

.. you are not the customer; you are the commodity being sold.

Selena Frye
Selena Frye

But it's such a fun video (whoever it is) it's kind of hard to resist. Especially with Google+ in the game now. Then again, if you're Anonymous, you'd want to spread as much confusion and misdirection as possible. ;)

CharlieSpencer
CharlieSpencer

How can an organization that claims to have no leaders also have an operations center? That's the problem with a decentralized structure; there's no way for outsiders to identify legitimate communications.

HAL 9000
HAL 9000

Couldn't cure Davette. But just taking Face Book down for a little while is no real issue. Personally if it was to be attacked, I would like to see it's complete Data Store Destruction. It's the only way to get your personal Data off their Servers. And to do that the required things would have to be put in place months prior to the supposed Attack Date. Maybe if it ever happens it will show people that the Cloud isn???t all its cracked up to be. That would be worth it if nothing else. Now I wonder which of my FB Accounts they think is real. Col

Neon Samurai
Neon Samurai

I cants play my farmville! How will my friends keep up with my latest gossip-rag quality status updates? (Not direted at you specifically Boxy. I just couldn't resist. I'm sure some folks have business dependencies on facebook for for the majority it would be a noticable absense of social chaff.)

GSG
GSG

I don't know what you'll do when they take it down. Hopefully, it won't mess up all the white space on your page! I'm not too worried. If they do take it down, well, then I'll just find something else to do. It would probably be good for me if they did take it down, since I seem to waste too much time there anyway. I do have a problem with people labeling them as "Hacktivists". No, they aren't activists who are hacking for the greater good. They are criminals who are hackers that are doing this for their own gratification.

Neon Samurai
Neon Samurai

It will certainly get it's day in the media. I only stumbled on the AnonOps claim after reading several sensational "Nov 5; world ends as we know it" type headlines.

Neon Samurai
Neon Samurai

I honestly can't help clarify the social structure at all other than to say that the AnonOps twitter feed seems to be one of the more official channels. I believe it's also a primary channel for organizing on IRC and such also. maybe a decentralized group can have common spaces which are less decentralized? (eg. anoncements come from AnonOps though not always from the same PR speaker?)

info
info

The US Government and Media had to 'invent' Al-Quaida in order to have someone to blame. People can't wrap their heads around the fact that one person, armed with the right tools and knowledge, can have such a long-reaching, devastating effect on 'civilization'. A GROUP, now, well that's different... ;)

AnsuGisalas
AnsuGisalas

I don't think they'll be able to piece it all together again if their servers are blown to smithereens ;)

CharlieSpencer
CharlieSpencer

What about all those services that routinely crawl the web, archiving everything they find? Just destroying FB's databases won't affect them.

JCitizen
JCitizen

:^0 I was directed by management to start a Facebook account. Needless to say, I use the same name I do here. Not my real one!

HAL 9000
HAL 9000

As Hackers. They are certainly not [i]"Hackers"[/I] in the True Sense of the Word just a bunch of people who have been labelled with that Title by the [i]"Brain Dead Media Ijiots"[/I] who where searching for something sensational to publish on a Slow News Day to scare the General Public with yet again. They are Criminals nothing more nothing less and they are certainly not Hackers. Well if you want to blindly and stupidly follow the Mass Market Media they are Hackers but then again Ive never heard Mass Media Reporters being described as anything more than a large bunch [b]Lazy Drooling Idiots[/b] who steal all of their content from others who can not complain or seek redress. The first case of Cracking occurred in Melbourne University many years ago and the Term Hacking came about much latter when the Idiots in the Mass Media tried to coin a term for something that they didnt understand to scare people who understood even less. So they Stole a term used by Computer Savvy People to describe themselves and completely misused it and have continued that trend. After all when referring to the Mass Market Media you need to remember [b]Never let the Truth Get in the Way of a Good Story.[/b] They have used that for many years now long before there where computers so why change things now. I however expect Supposedly Professionals IT People on a Professional IT Site to know better though, however I may be delusional though. ;) Now who wants to discuss the correct Short Hand for Microsoft on the day when a major breakthrough has been discovered for the Disease MS? :^0 Col

Spitfire_Sysop
Spitfire_Sysop

I agree, it's strange. The idea behind anonymous predates computers and the "hacktivists" are a very small group of teenagers who have taken up the name. They have gotten a lot of press because of their disruption but have largely failed to inform people what anonymous is. It used to be common for writers to anonymously publish questionable material. It's called "Ghost writing". At the dawn of the internet everyone was anonymous. Nobody used their real names.

Neon Samurai
Neon Samurai

It seems some of the folks claiming to be Anonymous are indeed persuing activist agendas. But, fair enough, there are also those who simply join into the opertunity for some self-gratification attacks. My point is simply that you can't discount those who are persuing actions because others are malicious.

CharlieSpencer
CharlieSpencer

Isn't that the same as imposing a Nanny state? 'We know what's best for you, poppet. You just let us worry about what sites you should visit.' Geez, why aren't they going after sites known to actively push malware? Oh, wait; maybe most of those are run by Anonymous members. Incidentally, 'important message from Anonymous' is an oxymoron.

AnsuGisalas
AnsuGisalas

If it has a channel to give "orders", then what stops others from taking control of that channel?

benched42
benched42

The statement from Ollie North about Osama Bin Laden and a security system on his house is pure urban legend. ( http://www.snopes.com/rumors/north.asp ) Yes, the Al-Quaida was in existence then and yes we did assist them. Make them? Hardly. At the time we had a common foe in the Soviet Union.

HAL 9000
HAL 9000

The US Government supported and encouraged them. Remember Ollie North evidence to the Enquiry where he claimed to have just recently meet the most dangerous man on the planet so he had to have a 60K Alarm system to protect his family? Yep people didn't believe it then but Ossama Benladin was the one and the same only now they can pronounce his name correctly. :^0 Another example where the US Foreign Policy has bitten them hard on the A$$ and cost far more money that they originally outlaid to start this going. Another perfect example of you reap what you sow. :0 Col

benched42
benched42

So the US Government "invented" Al-Quaida to have someone to blame? Really? Read up on your history. The Al-Quaida was running strong in the '80s during the Soviet Union occupation of Afghanistan, of course back then they were called Mujahideen. To say the US Gov't invented them is either insane or completely paranoid.

Neon Samurai
Neon Samurai

Bah.. you just need to hose a few trunk routers.

JCitizen
JCitizen

and would be happy at total data destruction. Of course, I can't see how that could be accomplished without a well hidden data bomb in the back up archives.

HAL 9000
HAL 9000

But taking out the entire Internet is way to difficult to comprehend let alone try. :D Though there are quite a few sites that I personally wouldn't mind disappearing completely and without trace. As for TR though they seem to be doing quite a good job of this themselves with their constant Redesigns to increase usability and functionality seeming to do neither. :^0 Remember what this place was like when we first started coming here? It's a far cry from that now and not much of a improvement along the way. ;) Now [b]Thunk[/b] I haven't handed out one of those in a while now. :^0 :D Col

JCitizen
JCitizen

It does make coordination with other deptarments easier, kind of like what Sharepoint was suppose to do? It didn't do anygood to tell the boss this medum was totally insecure either. We just dug in and put up with it.

Neon Samurai
Neon Samurai

It's about the company having a "presence" in the new hip medium (ie. marketing channel). I wouldn't say it's uncommon and facebook will get just as saturated with company sock puppets as mysapce did. On the other hand, it should be an additional marketing channel. I can think of very few business models where facebook connectivity and profile updating would be a primary profit generator.

CharlieSpencer
CharlieSpencer

Whatever for? And how do they force you to update it? Do the quality of your posts affect your annual review? How about the quality and / or number of so-called 'Friends'?

HAL 9000
HAL 9000

According the a news report last night within 50 years we will run out of Chocolate. Now there is a Battle that must be won as we can never allow that to happen. ;) Col

brocksamson2011
brocksamson2011

yes i agree, according to a time life book on the history of computers i once read....the original definition of hacker: was someone who tinkered with, improved, built or worked on computers....or something along those lines. The media and internet community eventually changed that definition and everyone else not understanding history just accepted it.

JamesRL
JamesRL

Have both definitions for Arsenal, both a place of manufacture and of storage. Armoury (Canadian/British spelling) is storage. Though in many Canadian towns, the armoury is both where the arms are kept and where the militia meets and drills.

AnsuGisalas
AnsuGisalas

If this finnish trend (and it is a trend, ten years ago they thought the other way around) is a part of a wider tendency, then the world around may sway. If the world sways, then perhaps the US will sway too. Sometimes resonance can do wonders. Of course, most of the time things just go to crap. So I see your point, too.

AnsuGisalas
AnsuGisalas

There used to be arsenals that were also armouries... until the combination of factory activity and high explosives storage proved itself just too exiting.

santeewelding
santeewelding

Are the ones that used to bug me until I quit caring (the one is where they are kept, or that you possess; the other, where they are manufactured). The "media" can't bring itself to say the right one if it had a mouthful of it.

CharlieSpencer
CharlieSpencer

This one isn't worth it anymore, at least not to me. It's like 'Band-Aid' becoming a generic term for an adhesive bandage; it reached the point it wasn't worth Johnson & Johnson's time or money to defend the trademark. Apparently the Finnish press is more technologically literate than here in the US.

AnsuGisalas
AnsuGisalas

And they consistently used the term "krakkeri" about the perps, and even included an info box with a clarification for the term, as well as comparing it to the correct meaning of the word "hakkeri". Never give up, never surrender. Or if you do, just to see if they'll let down their guard.

CharlieSpencer
CharlieSpencer

The vast majority agree that the word has come to mean 'someone who performs malicious or criminal computer activity'. The minority of us who use it to mean ' someone interested in pushing the boundaries of a system's capabilities' have lost the battle, with no hope of counterattack.

MeijerTSR
MeijerTSR

HAL 9000, we Must! be siblings from different parents.

shryko
shryko

considering the dawn of the internet was in academic/military circles... name and position were always shared on everything, just because that indicated the academic credibility of the content being posted. You don't trust a guy with a phd in chemistry to give you good research about the effects of zero gravity on living organisms, just like you don't rely on the biologist's paper about ballistic weapons.

GSG
GSG

Yes, that would be a Nanny state. I agree, that they and we would be better served if they'd go after those pushing the Malware, but like you, I figure a lot of them are the ones delivering malware.

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