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Format war officially over as Toshiba drops HD-DVD


Well, all of us who have been speculating about when HD-DVD would be a dead format have our answer -- right now. Reuters is reporting that Toshiba, HD-DVD's biggest supporter, will stop manufacturing HD-DVD hardware.

At least the death of HD-DVD was relatively quick. It took just about six weeks from Warner Bros' announcement at CES until Toshiba's announcement today.

I will be interested to see how Microsoft responds. Sony is selling PlayStation 3s with built-in Blu-ray drives for around the same price as XBOX 360s without any high definition optical drive. I can't see them putting a Blu-ray drive in the 360, but who knows.

So which would you rather have -- a Playstation 3 or an XBOX 360 with an internal Blu-ray drive?
14 comments
BrianBooher
BrianBooher

I think HD-DVD died because it was not as marketed as compared to Blu-Ray. The PS3 came with a Blu-Ray player inside, which made it a good buy for people, just like me. Microsoft went on the idea of giving you the "option" to upgrade. They didn't want to force people with the HD-DVD player, so that is why it was not very popular. It does not make sense to have a machine that can play games in HD but not play movies in HD. If Microsoft was really serious about wanting to make money from HD-DVD, they would have installed the player into the Xbox360 and not make it a separate drive. But the nice thing is that the HD-DVD players have dropped in price that I can buy one either as a backup player, or eventually hook it up to my computer when I decide to go to Vista.

qtvinsta
qtvinsta

Console war is not about what drive it uses, it's about the games that you can play on it. I bought a HD-XE1 to watch HD-DVD movies and have a cheap Blu-ray player to watch Blu-ray movies. A year from now, i'll be using the HD-XE1 to watch my DVDs. btw the cheap Blu-ray player i got was the PS3, but i didn't buy it for the Blu-ray player, i bought it for Gran Turismo 5 and the next Street Fighter release. I got the PS2 when it appeared, not for the DVD player but for Gran Turismo 3... only i used it to play DVDs a couple times. I haven't used it to play DVDs in years. When good Blu-ray players drop in price the PS3 will probably be relegated to games only just like my PS2. My fav game for the Wii would probably be Mario Galaxy. So when it comes down to it, it's the content and not the format that matters. btw i'm >30yro (he he)

.Martin.
.Martin.

It is not much of a surprise to hear the HD-DVD has lost, it never really caught on, mostly because no gaming console picked it up, it missed out on a huge market from gaming, which meant it just did not survive...

dest
dest

The 360 has the games, its that simple. I have no reason for Blu-Ray or HD-DVD atm, I could care less about it.

norb_houston
norb_houston

Im not about to go out and get a blu ray OR PS3 just because they "won" some format war. Im fine with online video and DVD quality. I watch all my movies through my PC to my HD LCD and it looks great to me. And my XBOX 360 plays my games just fine so why fix whats not broken, yet... And with online video quality getting better and better I dont foresee me ever getting a blu ray player. Definitely will not be buying into the PS3 BS hype....

scottecopeland
scottecopeland

Definitely the PS3, but isn't this rather a moot question? Blu-ray is proprietary technology owned by Sony. Why would they license the technology to their largest competitor in the console wars? We will never see an Xbox 360 with blu-ray. Microsoft has just lost out on the high def dvd concept and will have no choice but to embrace some sort of download service.

Java Guru
Java Guru

Of course Sony will license BR to M$. One of the M$ officials had already said that they would include BR if their customers demanded it. Now they will have no choice. M$ will buy a license to BR and include an external drive for the 360. I am thinking that it will be a combo drive to support the media that had already been sold.

jdclyde
jdclyde

After finding out the lack of quality in the 360 (my month old system just got sent back), it wouldn't matter WHAT drive they put in it, I would never recommend anyone buy a 360. Go with the PS3 and save yourself the headache.

tomthumb0
tomthumb0

Don't know what you're talking about with a lack of quality in the xbox 360. I have one of the first production units and I play that thing constantly. I have never encountered a problem with it. Same goes with the Wii system I have. I had a ps3 for about a month. Got rid of the POS. Nothing but problems with it. The same goes with many other Sony Products I had in the past. Good luck with that PS3. Personally I buy a gaming unit to play games, not watch movies. If I want to watch movies, I will buy a standalone unit and I will not buy any blu ray unit until it ceases being a work in progress and I can get a relatively decent one for under $200.00. At least HD DVD was a finished product. Good thing I waited out this so called format war.

jdclyde
jdclyde

http://techrepublic.com.com/5208-6230-0.html?forumID=102&threadID=254517&messageID=2428978 It is being estimated that 1 out of every 3 NEW off the shelf is junk and will be returned for repairs within the first month. Mine lasted less than a month. Smorty is on his fourth unit already. Sure, the games are cool, but the hardware is crap and prone to overheating.

DragonSama
DragonSama

I have a 360 Elite that gave me the Red Ring Of Death after about 3 months. So you are not safe with the Elite either. I had to call in get my cardboard coffin and send it back to Microsoft. It took them 1 month to send me a new one but the problem was that none of my Live Arcade games worked offline. It took them 2 more months to fix the licenses for those games in their system so I could enjoy them on and off line.

jdhiv4
jdhiv4

MS was backing the HD-DVD camp as it saw that as the underdog in terms of support and since Microsoft is basically biding their time until the download of media is the main option........they were happily going to help keep the war going so niether format really took hold......I'd be just as happy to have a bluray inside an xbox360 but I just doubt it's going to happen........unless MS see it as a way to make a little coin until the download infrastructure (or whatever) is really there...or maybe that never materializes and Bluray (Or Terabite discs) DO become what the public wants....THEN you might see it......but that could be in the nextgen...............SO, DON'T HOLD YOUR BREATH............as much as i'd like to, i'm not going to bother!

j.m.keane
j.m.keane

Sure, the first iteration of the 360 was prone to overheating, which is why the heatsinks and rest of the cooling has been thoroughly reworked. I know several folk, including me, with these second generation 360s (all well used for hours at a time) and not one has seen the rings of death. Perhaps MS should think about removing any models with the old cooling systems as they are returned and repplace them with models less likely to fail. I think that would answer most reasonable greivances. To be honest I think the 360 is a great console, a few niggles aside, and just hope MS stop messing about and get a Blue-ray drive out for it.

seanferd
seanferd

There have been several waves of problems with the 360. Of course, not every owner of a unit has been affected, but many people have had to return units more than once - the replacement units, sometimes refurbished, have a failure rate as well. A lot of folks don't care, they like the Xbox, even if they've had to return a unit more than once. Other people won't put up with it, regardless of how much they might want to play an Xbox-only game. Any failings of the PS3 have less to do with Blu-Ray, and more with the gaming console. I am curious to know what problems you had with the PS3. If I buy one of the current generation gaming consoles, I'd like to have all the facts, anecdotal evidence as well.

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