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TR Out Loud in 2010: Seeking feedback from the TR Community

One of the metrics of success for the TR Out Loud blog is community participation. So, a big question going forward in 2010 is: What can we do that will generate more community activity on the site -- and what should we discontinue?

TechRepublic is one of the best web sites for IT professionals -- and no doubt THE best site for tech community. The TR Out Loud blog was created specifically for you all, the TR community, so that members could learn more about one another (TR Member Spotlight series) and keep up with the hot discussions and topics on a weekly basis (TROLOV -- or TR Out Loud on Video).

Each Monday, the TR Out Loud blog features a Questions of the Week post (thanks to Hal 9000 and Jacky Howe for their weekly submissions) to highlight some of the great questions that are getting asked in TechRepublic's Questions forum.

In addition, we feature some of the writing that the rest of the TR community submits, including quick tips (things you've learned by success or failure) and guest posts (IT topics that really interest or irritate you -- from being laid off to getting a Verizon Droid).

One of the metrics of success for the TR Out Loud blog is participation. So, a big question going forward in 2010 is: What can we do in the TR Out Loud blog that will generate more community activity on the site?

Following this logic, we want to keep doing the things that currently create quite a bit of discussion and engage the TR community, such as the guest post. In fact, we'd like more TR members to send in contributions -- sharing their expertise and/or frustrations -- to trol@techrepublic.com.

Similarly, we may discontinue things that don't move the needle on community activity, such as TROLOV. While the weekly video series has a passionate core following, it has not successfully engaged a larger segment of the TR community or created much activity on the site. We still believe that some of the elements of TROLOV are important to share, but perhaps not OV (on Video).

So, let's open this for discussion. Yes, TROLOV is on the chopping block, but we would like feedback from you all before we make any final decisions. Since the TR Out Loud blog is your playground or sandbox of sorts, please take a few moments to answer the following questions:

  • What could we add or subtract from TROLOV to create more community participation?
  • If we take out the video element, what parts of TROLOV would you like to see as a weekly blog post in the TR Out Loud blog?
  • What other types of posts would you like to see in the TR Out Loud blog that you think would generate more community activity?

If you regularly watch TROLOV but haven't participated, now is the time to speak up. Every voice matters!

About

Sonja Thompson has worked for TechRepublic since October of 1999. She is currently a Senior Editor and the host of the Smartphones and Tablets blogs.

104 comments
NickNielsen
NickNielsen

Ten years ago, when I joined TR, the first attraction was the technical articles. Eric Eckel, Brien Posey, and many others provided excellent articles about subjects that not only interested me, but were relevant to my job. As time went on, my work changed and the relevance dropped some, but the articles were still interesting. Five years ago, when I started my current job, the technical articles were still the primary draw, but I had started to pay more attention to the forums and the discussions there. As more time went on, I became more involved in the forums and less interested in the tech articles until I didn't even check the front page for articles of interest, but came directly to the forums. It wasn't until after the Windows 7 series of articles started that I realized that I hadn't read more than one or two actual tech articles (Windows, Linux, apps, security, etc.) a week for about the past year. What changed? Many things. My current job is almost entirely hardware-oriented; although I still have the interest, I have very little to do with with actual PC maintenance and even less to do with software configuration or installation. The vast majority of my direct PC work is IBM point-of-sale systems: x86 PCs with specialized interfaces for POS peripherals (cash drawers, scanners, printers, etc.). Software and OS? My two major customers have both converted to thin clients on Citrix; if one breaks, I install a new one, image it, and walk away. I do some Ethernet work, but it's mostly patch verification or replacement. Most of my network calls are for proprietary serial network outages running on Cat 3 or 22-2 shielded cable. The rest of my work is either the service scales in the fresh departments like meat and deli, the occasional project installation, or monkey maintenance (bad one out, good one in). To be honest, my work and TR have gone in different directions. The primary reason I've been hanging out for the last three years or so is the forum community, and the last site overhaul really hurt that community. With the exception of some few peers, the only reason I return to TR now is habit. How can that be fixed? I don't know. What would I do? I'd like to say bring back the tech articles, but they never really went away. [b]They just got harder to find![/b] Why? If people go to a site and don't see what they're searching for on the front page or after scrolling down once or twice, they leave; I do it all the time. A jump list to the individual blogs at the top of the front page would be a good start. And fix the search. It's gotten better, but it's still easier to find TR blog entries or forum posts from Google than it is from a TR search. That's my opinion on how to bring back the ease of access to specialized content that used to be a hallmark of TR, but it doesn't bring back the forum community. We are slowly becoming a second ZDNet and I have no idea how to fix that. etu

HAL 9000
HAL 9000

Many of the newer members are here just for the Technical Help that they can get and thank you very much goodbye. TROL will never get the responses that some of Bill or Michael's Blogs get but then again do we/you/TR want another Technical Blog that can't compete with the Hard Core Technical Articles? I've got Tye feeling that a lot of the newer members are not here for the Community and maybe this is the end of the TR as we knew it and the start of something quite different, I don't know about that but if it is I'm certain that I'm not a avid liker of it. ;) Col

Tig2
Tig2

Given the vast amount of running around that absolutely had to be finished by COB today, I have had little time to comment on this... but much time to reflect. I know for myself that I stopped writing when two things happened- my life got quite a bit busier and a lot less predictable, and it didn't seem to matter. Although writing the news was often frustrating, I had no problem getting up at 4 a.m. to do it in order to meet a 7a.m. deadline. Then News went away. I liked writing News because it forced me to think beyond my own skin and into the collective mind of the readership. It allowed me to broaden my own views to include topics that I wouldn't have ordinarily. It forced me to keep my opinion to myself while sharing the nuts and bolts of events and changes in the IT scene. I loved every minute of the process and would go back to doing it again in a heartbeat. I felt like a valued and valuable contributor and was always gratified to see the discussions- be they large or small- that ensued. Needless to say I was annoyed to discover that TR's News content would come from ZD-Net. Not that I have anything at all against Larry- I like him- but that ZD-Net is not the same voice as TR. We have always been a bit different from the other CNET properties. Losing the News made us less ourselves- in my opinion. Someone else said it earlier but I think it such a great point, I'll repeat it. Back in the day, I was an IT generalist with project management and network experience. I added skills yearly just like any good IT pro will. The site gave me a sense of where I wanted to focus my energies as well as giving me a place to ask questions of my peers. In short, this was a logical home for the IT professional, regardless of specific need. I would not say that is a true statement today. I can understand why the focus on the CIO/Decision Maker but only to a point. When that focus blinds you to the rest of the IT community, it is a poor choice. The example that springs to my mind is social networking. Today we know with certainty that social networking is impactful beyond personal use. Many people use one social network for fun and a different one for business. Many companies are looking at how to use the social network framework to facilitate collaboration across offices. This suggests that there is an impact- and soon to be a greater impact- on the IT professional who will build such sites, maintain them, possibly even guide content. Still, it is rare that this is addressed here. It doesn't fit the model in which the only valuable reader is the CIO. It has been some time since I participated actively. Given the events of my last several months- and realistically, the last year- I think I can be excused to an extent. It is hard to make TR a priority in days when EVERYTHING is clamoring for my attention. Especially in light of the fact that there is little I care to read or follow. I make the odd post but am not a "frequent flyer". And to be honest, I knew that I was not terribly relevant any longer when no one remembered my birthday. Ahh vanity. Given my advanced age, I was kinda surprised that I remembered. What would draw me back? Discussions about the ever changing role of the IT professional whether that person is the guy who only comes out at night to fix your machine or the project manager trying to do too much with too few resources. How is Windows faring in the current business economy and what is the impact of the increasingly ubiquitous Mac? Why do I have to go somewhere else to get the News? Don't you know that I might just STAY at that other site and forget to come back? And when technology has finally gotten to me for the day, where is that water cooler I used to call home? TROLOV was a great addition to the site and I hope it stays right where it is. But in order for TR to remain relevant, again- my opinion- we need to go back to being what we are at our foundation. A bunch of techs that like to share ideas.

shasca
shasca

I think TROLOV is a guarantee of entertainment for 10 minutes+ the residual after glow. Sometimes it's silliness, sometimes its getting to know the faces behind the avatars. But it is always a guarantee you will leave it in a better mood than before you hit the "play button". I for one am a big fan of taking Fridays off whenever I can, so by the time I see it the following week the only thing i have left tocontribute is give the thumb up it allows earns. Different day is an interesting idea. I like it alot when you have guests with you. If it was possible to get other professionals in studio to do some spots might spark a new audience (maybe?) I'm guessing that TR was established by the "Boomers" most of whom are moving on to their new careers behind the wheel of a golf cart. Our industry is dealing with the same dillemas with Hunting. The newest generations just don't have the same interests in outdoors hunting and fishing of the previous, so we are fighting to figure what and where to make the changes needed. As they say it is justa sign of the times unfortunately. Hopefully somewhere in this rambling mess I maid some sense... Thanks for caring Sonja without that this would all be a moot point and TR would be just a shell of its present self. Exhale shwooo!!!

CharlieSpencer
CharlieSpencer

I only watch about one TROLOV a month. It's nothing against the segments themselves. I don't look at any of TR's other video content or listen to the podcasts. I will read their transcripts. I'm find it assimilate information when presented in a written form. It's easier to resume if I'm interrupted. It's easier to review if I miss a point or don't get something the first time. TROLOV is well done for what it is, but what it is isn't what I prefer. I'd keep the existing features, but in a print format instead. Just one twit's opinion (and I mean that in the non-Twittering sense of the word).

The 'G-Man.'
The 'G-Man.'

Problem is it concentrates far to much on the likes / dislikes of the regular TR 'people' at the expense of the casual observer. People do not have the time to watch such items at work, which is the primary place most people are on TR. I think an investment in the forums section of the site would perhaps have a better return.

NickNielsen
NickNielsen

I've had more than one tech tell me "If I can't get it on my Blackberry, I don't do it," leaving the attitude that if you have to sit down or slow down to do it, it must not be important. Yet these same techs think nothing of interrupting my day, usually at lunch, to ask for advice or guidance on a piece of equipment and become upset when I ask them to call me back after I finish eating. It goes back to Toni's "Alone in the World" syndrome. Suggestions in a later post. Gotta go change a tape drive.

HAL 9000
HAL 9000

They don't themselves directly contribute to the Business but add something that makes that business worth going to. Be that something like doing free [i]Labor[/i] work for employees of companies that you fix computers for or something like TROL OV. They add to the Feel of the place and make people want to return. While they do not directly contribute tot he bottom line without them the Bottom Line suffers dramatically and in many cases the company either ceases to exist or becomes a shadow of it's former self not understanding how this happened. TROL OV is like this while not a broad spectrum of TR Members may contribute they still watch or talk about things that are not directly related to their daily lives. These things encourage the members to want to come back and pass on [b]Word of Mouth[/b] recommendations to people that they meet or otherwise interact with. I'm wondering just how many actually watch the Video without contributing any thoughts or anything else to it. I don't know if anyone else has noticed the changes that have been happening over the past few years but many people in general are becoming more Self Serving and do not want to share of their time and expertize but at the same time expect others to do this for them. Now with Computers becoming more and more of a Accessory rather than a Means to an End it's cheaper to throw out a system that stops working correctly and buy another one than repair the faulty item. Most times this item goes faulty because of the way it is being used but it's never the Users Fault that this has happened it's that stupid Computer that doesn't work properly. Then when you look at the costs of a Professional just a couple of hours of their time will exceed the cost of a low end system so it's not economical to bother attempting to repair something. I've lost count of the number of times that End Users even Professionals say something along the lines of Why should I spend so much to recovery my Data a New HDD is only a few $ and you thieving Bastard want Several Thousand $ to get back what I've lost. Worse still you want $900.00 just to quote and tell me what is possible to recover. Those professionals are now shrinking to a smaller and smaller area and there are more Hobby People who believe that they can do as good a job and make lots of money out of doing it even though they do substandard work they are cheaper so they are the first approached. Company Standards are also slipping as it's not important to do it right just to the standard that the Government requires. QANTAS recently had a Computer Outage which affected their Book In Counters it was traced back to what they described as a [b]Faulty Network Cable[/b] but the reality was that, that cable was never correctly installed to begin with and over time it failed. Because the entire network is like that they lost all Book In Counters for the best part of a day while the tried to find the problem. I see way too much of this happening now days and it's got considerably worse since the Sub Prime Fiasco hit the Fan taking all of us down the tubes because of the stupidity of some very short sighted people who stood to make lots of money for doing the wrong thing. When people are allowed to make their own rules things go belly up sooner rather than latter and they just don't adversely affect that part of the market they hit everyone particularly those who didn't profit from the Out of Control Greed to begin with or at all. Personally I see discussions like this which ultimately relate to how much can we save as a sign of very Poor Management these days which lacks any Vision. But then as these things are always brought about by Bean Counters who have proved over and over that they are completely unsuited to being placed in charge of any business being promoted because they originally saved a few $ at the expense of the entire business. Anyway what's this got to do with TROL OV well TROL OV was never going to be a Ratings Topper as it's not directly related to any Technical Issue unlike the IT Dojo Series or so on so the number of participants was never going to be as great and when you consider the newcomers to the Industry who are only in things for what they can get out of them that number gets even smaller. So rather than a Ratings Winner it's a Fun Thing to do for a bit of Light Relief. If things like this was to disappear from the site it wouldn't have a direct Bottom Line Impact immediately but it is a sign of things to come where the community is destroyed because there is no need for this. But in the long run it strips out the need to return. Life isn't all about work no matter how much Senior Management wants us to believe that it's about living having fun and enjoying ourselves. If TR was to become devoted to just Technical Issues there wouldn't be the reasons to continue visiting the site just for the [b]Hell of It.[/b] Many members would only visit when they needed something and then because everyone else is doing the same thing they wouldn't get the answers that they want/need so there would be no need to come at all. Gone are the days when you could start a business in your Basement/Shed/Garage and be a roaring success in the Big World. Today it's believed that you need to be Big and just like everyone else to be successful. Doesn't matter that those who are successful are successful because they are not like everyone else but are different the Shoddy Management Style of today wants to have Clones of themselves running everything to improve the business when all it actually achieves is to lessen the usefulness of that individual business. Could be why I'm getting fed up with IT at the moment as it's no longer anywhere near as much fun as it used to be and far more regimented than it needs to be and only succeeds in making things harder to fix when they go wrong. The fact that many of the newcomers to the industry don't know any better doesn't help either. Col

OnTheRopes
OnTheRopes

Is it just me or did it seem that there was more general participation back when Questions were organized into categories? Of course that was a few iterations ago before TR bought into the Web 2.0 buzz and fixed things that weren't broken, until they fixed 'em.

boxfiddler
boxfiddler

the way you think. Your last three paragraphs capture my own thinking better than I thought it.

Tig2
Tig2

Based on the answers to my last post, the only important thing I had to say was that my birthday was missed. At least I was linked to a thread that I have not seen before this day (1/21/10 my time). Oddly, I thought that I brought more to the table than that. As I have not, I was perhaps correct in my initial assessment that I am more a casual contributor than I am a voice of anything of substance. Minor typo

santeewelding
santeewelding

Share, and, dispute; the civil sort of disputation. Well, okay. Disputation with edge.

CharlieSpencer
CharlieSpencer

"The newest generations just don't have the same interests in outdoors hunting and fishing of the previous, ..." They don't have the same interest in being outdoors in any capacity. But if they don't, it's the parents who didn't introduce them.

CharlieSpencer
CharlieSpencer

I don't have a web-capable mobile device, so I've never looked at TR that way. Is the site properly formatted for such devices? Would improving the way it looks on them boost the membership / participation?

Shellbot
Shellbot

long post Col :) I agree 100% with the idea that if there is no "light relief"..why bother. I too am of the school of "work is not my entire existance".. for me it is a way to pay my bills and make a living..its nice to flake out occasionally and have a bit of fun..and who better to do that with than like minded people? Since the "fun" left the site..I don't MAKE the time to visit as much anymore.

boxfiddler
boxfiddler

you're on to something there... Consider the bottom line everything, and that bottom line will slowly and inexorably drop lower and lower. Thanks Col.

Oz_Media
Oz_Media

Careful throwing darts, it's all fun and games until someone loses an eye. I got one in the back of the kneck once but, funny enough, by some freak accident, the guy who hit me got hit himself just a few hours later, same spot, right in the back of the kneck. I shouldn't have kept playing, I suppose.

The 'G-Man.'
The 'G-Man.'

Looking around the site, I don't think TR care about retired people to much - their main focus is the current set of IT Pro's to server advertisements to.

Shellbot
Shellbot

You said it better than I could articulate.

The 'G-Man.'
The 'G-Man.'

Getting upset that your Birthday was or was not missed on something as simple as a web forum is nothing to get that worked up about in my opinion. Close family & friends in the local area, well perhaps.

Sonja Thompson
Sonja Thompson

Of course, I'm in a different position than the rest of you all who have taken the time and energy to reply in this thread. I'm on the inside looking out. And while my initial questions were about TROLOV and how to make the TR Out Loud blog engage more of the TR community, I see that this discussion has branched out to include TechRepublic as a whole. As someone noted, there's not a lot that I personally can do, such as significant site changes (go back to how things used to be), but I do know that there are some good things in the works. No, TR editors won't cover tech news as extensively as ZDNet, but we encourage you all to talk about the latest and greatest, most helpful, or most ridiculous technology in the discussion forums. How does TR become -- again -- that place where IT pros want to "hang"? Is it all about water cooler? I'm not giving up on TROLOV, but I wonder how it could change/condense in order to free up some of my time so that I can help create that space where you all want to hang out! Do I change the format to a Top 5 in 5, where I only recap the top five discussions of the week in under 5 minutes? I could also post a community video that contains member submissions but publish it only on the weeks when I receive contributions (which would leave it up to you guys and gals... no contributions = no community video). I'm taking it all in. Please keep the feedback coming!

Shellbot
Shellbot

I'd like to think that we think your birthday is more important.. If you were only a casual contributer, we woulnd't give a rats about your birthday, or the fact that we may have missed it.. Its because you mean more to us that the posts from those who love you make refernece to that. As for my two cents..I agree... To me its no longer a place to "hang out"...

Tig2
Tig2

Only because I came to this site on that day and looked and looked HARD. I have not before this date seen the thread you linked. How interesting. Too bad I never saw it when it might have been so helpful.

NickNielsen
NickNielsen

I don't have the capability either. I think the people making the comment were referring to Twitter more than anything. Just what we need: headline news techs. My take on that is sometimes you need all 65kB of instructions because 140 characters just won't cut it. . . . Still thinking...

jck
jck

The "fun" left the site? I thought I was fun! Gee thanks! :( :p I'll hug you anyways...I think you need it ((((((((((((((((( just for Shell )))))))))))))))))

HAL 9000
HAL 9000

Need to have fun at work or they are not doing their job to the best of their ability. If they are always only looking at work related things and not thinking outside the box they are incapable of finding the best solution to the mess that they are faced with. Of course this Mindset isn't popular with the Accountant Type Manager who believes that All Work and No Play is good for business. But then again they are generally the ones who abuse the system for their own ends and are incapable of knuckling down and doing what is necessary. If your not laughing at work you are in the wrong position and need to find something else to do. Of course many people say that I can not be serious but then very few of those people see me when I need to be serious, I just don't see the need to kill myself or my staff to keep the Boss happy. From my experience the Boss is happier if the works gets done efficiently and well. Those who insist that you have to follow stupid Company Rules to the letter and not take any shortcuts are the people that I now refuse to do any work for. They always have second Rate Systems held together with string and Chewing Gum and they wonder why they have so many failures and so much down time. I remember one place where I had to wait 3 days to get a CAT5 Cable so I could repair a LAN that had gone down. They bitterly complained about the length of the repair which was all my fault but when it was pointed out to them that I had to wait for the part which in this case was a 50 cent cable they just said that it was still my fault and I had to work within the system. They went broke several years after I walked away with all my shortcuts and in the mean time they had of horrendous Down Time Record but the guys who replaced us followed the rules. :^0 Col

Ron K.
Ron K.

My days of spending a million bucks a year are long gone. I don't miss them at all. I think I'll toddle off and take a nap now.

jdclyde
jdclyde

but when they started playing SOUNDS, it was the final insult to any halfway intelligent tech, and most started using adblock. I understand ads and revenue, but it did seem that the short term profits replaced the long term legitimacy of the site as a whole.

santeewelding
santeewelding

We kill all retirees, including retirement-age nonconsequentials, like me. When is your due-date, G-Man?

seanferd
seanferd

Let me just assume that you don't entirely get the community aspect of this simple web forum, the regard in which some members hold others (read: internet family). Imagine, if you will, the feeling of being abandoned and forgotten in this community while your life and that of your loved ones has become a bit of a living hell. Like the people who claimed to support you in the past suddenly wrote you off. Now, that isn't exactly what happened, but may have seemed that way, and I have to admit that the response to such things isn't what it once was. I also have to admit myself that I'm personally not big on keeping up with such things as birthdays (and I still count on the assumption that no one here knows mine :p :-bd), but they are important to some people, especially when any show of support is important to feeling like you are remembered. I also admit that I'm not here as much as I once was, so I've missed birthdays and other personal things. It's all cool if you are here for some tech and a laugh, but I think Tigger was speaking to a more-tightly knit segment of the community that she felt she might have been forgotten by, just because she can't be here as much as she had in the past, for a number of damn good reasons, which we know. She ain't some kid who wandered in a month ago and got upset because everyone wasn't instantly her friend. (In which case, your comment might be somewhat appropriate.) Tigger is a highly respected, if sometimes unfortunately absent, member of the TR community, and I'm sorry you don't know her better. For you: Maybe just be a bit more aware of who you are addressing your comments toward. You can always search the site if nothing else. For Tigger, if you ever happen across this: You are someone I'll never forget, even if I do need prompting to remember your birthday. My best wishes for you and the SO, and my apologies if I've missed any news you have shared here about your life. And now I'm going to leave this alone...

MaryWeilage
MaryWeilage

Hi Shasca, I'm the host of the Geekend blog, and I thought you might be interested to learn about several ways that you can get Geekend content. One option is to subscribe to the Geekend newsletter, which delivers each Friday. Please visit our subcenter to subscribe (Geekend is listed in the IT Career section): http://nl.com.com/acct_mgmt.sc?brand=techrepublic You can also subscribe to the blog's RSS feed: http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/geekend/wp-rss2.php A third option is to click the Alerts link in the upper right corner of the Geekend header. I hope this information is helpful to you! What topics would you like to see covered in Geekend? Best Regards, Mary Weilage

CG IT
CG IT

I saw TROLOV as all about the forum, both discussions thread and Q&A thread. When I say decline, I mean the decline of interesting and relevent content. That's why I said go take a look at what is in the threads. As Boxie mentions "water cooler" and well not much interesting at the "water cooler" these days.

shasca
shasca

We may have hit on something here. Maybe it is getting too difficult to keep up with all the TR (Changes) improvements, and just forget when "out of sight out of mind".

shasca
shasca

I don't ever see it linked to any of my TR newsletters anymore. So I really am confused.

Sonja Thompson
Sonja Thompson

Shasca, I understand that when Jay Garmon left the Geekend blog, a lot of people were upset. Believe me, we were too. But looking at the numbers from a traffic spreadsheet point of view, Geekend is still very much alive. Props to all of the Geekend writers and faithful followers!

Sonja Thompson
Sonja Thompson

TROLOV recaps the top discussions and the top community members (currently). Now, the top discussions are mostly from our core editorial content, not off-topic threads that members have started (although I try to throw at least one off-topic thread in there a week, especially since they are some of the hottest discussions). There hasn't been a drop or "decline" in editorial content, CG IT, nor will there be. That's why I mentioned possibly doing a "Top 5 in 5" kind of video - so that people can still keep up with what everyone's talking about that week, especially if they've been too busy to visit the site and/or haven't been involved in those particular conversations.

shasca
shasca

The Geekend brought alot of folks to the site on Fridays (me anyways) which in turn had TROLOV receiving a larger audience by folks looking for Friday entertainment. I'm guessing that it's demise has had a trickle down efferct on the attendance when TR video would arrive at about the same time.

boxfiddler
boxfiddler

It's likely not all about water cooler, but water cooler provides a lot of the 'fun factor'. It's been running low, lately. I don't know how that can be fixed. That's the zone that's primarily up to us. We don't seem to have much to say lately... :0 :(

CG IT
CG IT

You take what's going on in the forum and basically do a recap. Since the forum has "declined" significantly, the weekly recaps continually decline as the forum does. So, create compelling content that will draw rather than content that is a recap of forum that's in decline. Easier said than done, but that's the jist of it. TechRepublic forum isn't the place where IT Pros hang out. Whether TechRebublic can recapture that I don't know. I don't think so though. The IT industry is in a period of great change where the computer networks IT Pros work on are being phased out in favor of "Cloud" networks where users bring their own equipment to the workplace and use "Cloud" vendors to do their work.

jck
jck

Hope it gets better for you. Sucks here too. All pre-employment assurances made to me broke. Made to develop in platforms I have never done development in...in a language I've not programmed in over 9 years...and expected to do it in...6 weeks? Yeah right. Job position I looked at several weeks ago...opened back up. I am applying. Might be flying 1500 miles for a job interview. (((((((( hope things are better hugs ))))))))

Shellbot
Shellbot

Didn't mean it like that... Just mean its not as relaxed at the watercooler as it once was... Things change..shame though... THnaks for the hug :) ((((back at ya hugs)))

Ron K.
Ron K.

I'm 53 and the future looks pretty decent. Now watch me go out and get run over by a truck.