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Poll: Do the new features in Apple's iPhone OS 3.0 update make you more likely to buy an iPhone?

On March 17, Apple gave a preview of what we can expect from the iPhone OS 3.0, such as copy and paste, text search, and push notification. Will these new features generate more iPhone users? Take this quick poll and let us know if they might win you over.

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Shaw5544
Shaw5544

Of course I would like to buy a new Iphone with its latest features. That sounds cool. Oh boy ? another Apple announcement or "media event" for stuff we can buy that, if iTunes is any kind of reference point, will work slowly if at all, and people will pay a lot of money for it because they're that unfulfilled as people. At any rate, the Apple announcement is that they're unveiling a few things. There's Apple iTunes 9, and iTunes LP ? which will include visual aids like liner notes for downloaded music. Steve Jobs was there, and he also announced updates to the Apple Store, which will tell you what applications to get. There's new iPods and other products to get, too, and each Apple announcement leads to people getting

Oz_Media
Oz_Media

http://www.wireless.att.com/coverageviewer/ Dark blue only, or else it is the ancient EDGE network at a snail's pace. Once the USA (and Canada) catches up to the rest of the world on 3G coverage, it may be faster, for now the speed is available in a lot of countries but not so much here. though it [i]seems[/i] to be half the price this time around, "The basic AT&T plan ? unlimited Internet and 450 minutes of calling ? now costs $70 a month instead of $60 (plus taxes and fees), and comes with no text messages instead of 200. (Adding text messaging costs at least $5 a month more.) True, iPhone 3G service now matches the plans for AT&T?s other 3G phones; still, by the end of your two-year contract, the iPhone 3G will have cost you more than the old iPhone, not less." apparently the phone is a much better quality this time, which should have been there before but they seemed to forget its a phone first and foremost. Too little too late? While the tower positioning GPS is supposedly improved, Apples still says it will not offer you turn by turn due to the tiny antenna. As for great new apps you can pay for "One coming program, called iCall, will give you free phone calls when you?re in a Wi-Fi hot spot." Uh, cell phone does that already for free, no extra apps needed; in fact I often park and make client calls while in the A&W parking lot using their wireless access for free dial tone. Apple is always playing catch-up and pretending they are cutting edge, fortunately there are enough people that don't realize this flaunted tech is old hat and they rush out to get in on it. i-Pods were behind the times as far as playback, file storage and transfer capabilities. The last iPhone was behind the times in its feature set, old touch technology, poor camera and limited functionality, and now the next gen i_phone won't even rival cell phones built several years ago. If MS was releasing this crap, it would be world breaking news about how crappy it is. When MS actually releases an OS that does more than others, it is ignored or ragged on based on past Windows issues. Our society of blind and easily lead consumers is a laughing stock worldwide, these are merely more examples of why.

mike
mike

I posted this in Aug of '07 in response to a friend's rave report on the new iphone... We're almost there. >I saw your writeup on the iPhone and thought to myself "well, nobody asked ME". > >I'll give the iPhone another look when these features are available... > >1) it?s built to AT&T/Cingulars system (but I'm on Verizon). And the AT&T Cingular infrastructure is a painfully SLOW system. And around here it has a very low tower density. And recently a new Cingular tower went in a few blocks north of me, and when I talked to one of the installation techs he commented that the site had NO web communications hardware in it. This is supposed to impress me with their excellent service? > >2) You can?t swap the SIM card with another phone if you drop the iPhone (two reasons: it?s built inside, and the card itself is a weird physical format card... >if you want to use a different phone while your iPhone is being fixed you have to BUY yet another sim card) > >3) you can't play MP3s (what would it cost to add the most common format on the planet?) > >4) no GPS (you have to tell Google maps where you are before you can tell it where you want to go). >It's not like GPS is a new technology... it's in the prepaid phones you can buy at the local 7-11... And you can't even add an external bluetooth GPS - the Bluetooth implementation is badly broken. > >5) no replaceable battery (my 8 year old Nokia had that?) > >6) the camera is only 2megapixel? And no zoom (not even digital zoom)? > >7) no AvantGo (my ancient Palm 3 has that) > >8) no Vindigo (local info) (ditto) > >9) no Adobe Flash in the browser - and that breaks a lot of stuff (how much would it have cost to include it?) > >10) no Adobe Acrobat (PDF reader) (ditto) > >11) no slide lid (which would prevent a scratched screen) (a slide lid could be 1/2 of a clamshell design, which I much prefer) > >12) no car cradle with external antenna (no antenna jack - and my 9 year old Nokia had that). And I need an external antenna where I drive. > >13) no way to connect an external keyboard (and have you priced out a bluetooth keyboard recently?) > >14) you can?t use an audio file as a ring tone. If I'd been on the design team I'd have made sure that was in. It's not like that's a new idea. > >15) can?t have different ring tones for different incoming calls (i.e. one for work, a second for spouse/kids, a third for extended family, a fourth for everybody else... again, not a new idea) > >16) can?t talk to a printer unless it?s a pricey bluetooth one... the iPhone can use the internet via a wireless network, why can't it talk to the printer on my home wireless network? You'd think that telling it that 192.168.1.10 is a laserjet-mp would be enough. > >17) can?t talk or sync to an Exchange server (the corporate mail server). >Better yet, fully synch with Outlook's Contacts, Calendar and Tasks (and make Categories work). >A low end blackberry can do that, why can't a "newer and better" product do it? > >18) The music playing app quits when you start up the browser. Hello, the mac multitasked 20 years ago, why can't the iphone? > >19) It's too slippery... you can't pinch it between your shoulder and your ear while you scramble for a pen and paper (you are forced to get a case). > >20) It needs MUCH louder ringtones and stronger vibrate feature. > >21) Bluetooth file transfer. Hello? It does bluetooth, why can't it do file transfer? > >22) be able to edit documents using a Bluetooth keyboard > >23) Why can't the landscape feature work on ALL the apps, and especially the keyboard? Or didn't anybody try to use IM in the R&D lab? > >24) Add iChat. Or is that too obvious? > >25) Add all the iCal features, and make them sync. At a bare minimum I'd like the To Do list to sync with iCal To Do pane. > >26) Where's the eBook reader? > >27) Why isn't there a Home key in the browser? Better yet, have a Home key and a couple of Prime keys (i.e. shortcuts to your two most favorite web sites) > >28) Why no Cut and Paste? Or does that have to wait for version 3 ? > >29) The camera sucks - no flash, no physical shutter button, no zoom. I can live without the first two, but I need zoom. And you can't flip it around to face you for the future Chat/picturephone application. > >30) A natural application that's missing - a password vault. Or doesn't the R&D team actually USE the stuff they develop? > >31) If you miss a call/email/text there is no visual or audio repeat notify feature (i.e. beep, flash, or vibrate every 5 min until you check your phone - >just do SOMETHING). >The Blackberry uses a single bicolor LED for this - it changes from green to red and back. > >32) I have to return to the main menu every time I need to see if I have any email or messages waiting. Every other phone I've seen has an icon at the top of the screen indicating that you have mails/texts/voice mails waiting. Some even tell you how many. > >33) 64-bit editions of Windows are not supported. Yes, that's official Apple policy. > >34) You can't even set up the iPhone unless you have an iTunes account. Why? It's not like you can use an iTunes clip as a ringtone. > >35) Obviously Apple hasn't figured out that the world knows what a shift key is for. Adding a shift key to the front of the unit would have made the user interface so much intuitive/easier to use. > >Compared to current cellphone products the iPhone falls flat on its face in everything but sex appeal and esthetics. > >Apple does every other product so well (even the Newton - which was a PDA that was well ahead of its time), why they couldn't have looked at each of the top 20 phones out there and done a feature consolidation chart and then design something that was better than all put together is beyond me. > >Personally, I'll wait for version 2.0 and reconsider? > >And I can't be the only one with these complaints. > >For being a version 1.0 it's a pretty good product, but it could have been an excellent one. > >Mike

bergrrt
bergrrt

I really liked the iPhone but in my area the connections were lousy and battery life was terrible, even when disabling items known for doing that. AT&T said deal with Apple about it so they got the iPhone back. Maybe next contract things will be better but any phone problems still have to be dealt with by Apple.

cupcake
cupcake

I have had my iPhone for sometime now (an early adopter) and have NEVER had an issue with the battery. Guess I am lucky that I lived in areas where the AT&T service is quite extensive. Even in podunk Iowa I had great coverage. Including Wi-Fi!

alidif
alidif

Yes, but only if I am 1)able to choose my carrier, 2)able to use a CDMA carrier, and 3)able to expand the memory available via SD cards. They have yet to make a smart phone with enough memory for the programs I'd really like to carry with me. I am a medical professional, and I need a large amount of memory for programs, and I'd like to be able to exchange memory cards for reference programs that take up really large amounts of memory. Obviously, the capability exists for PDA phones to have larger memories, so why won't companies use the technology available??

Oz_Media
Oz_Media

Motorolla/Symbol makes the MC-70 and MC-50, they are intrinsically safe (can be scoured and decontaminated), can read/scan prescription labels, can offer GPS tracking through RFID for medications, equipment theft etc. Are rugged, you can drop them, toss them, kick them, bump them etc. Have incredible encryption and network connection/protection abilities etc. I've solde hundreds (literally) to US and Canadian hospitals, special care facilities, nursing homes, doctors/ nurse etc. Retail smartphones and i-Phones won't offer anythign near what is really required in that field. However they are not sleek and sexy, they are enterprise devices. But my HTC P4000 takes mini-SD cards no problem, if you are looking for a lightweight, personal smartphone.

cupcake
cupcake

You work for Motorolla selling their phones! No wonder you hate the iPhone. And you blasted John in an earlier email about his bias.

ntolman
ntolman

I have a phone that does most of that for the last several years, an SE P1i. When will North America catch up with the rest of the mobile world. Not to mention being sucked in by the Apple marketing machine.

Oz_Media
Oz_Media

I can't store, alter, create and view documents, pdf's, excel spreadsheets etc. Can't sut and paste? No handwriting recohnition, on screen keyboard is useless. The i-Phone is a fun entertainment toy, but it certainly isn't the business device I see so many people thinking it is. I know there's a lot of slagging on Microsoft (most seem to down MS just to be cool it seems) but one thing stands true, Windows Mobile at least offers functionality and the i-Phone is STILL many light years behind.

flaghorn
flaghorn

Not until I can choose what carrier and put any third party apps on it. With out these choices I refuse to pay for one. Even if every other living thing on this planet has one.

donrowley
donrowley

Copy and Paste nice; Search will be awesome to have. Would like to see: grouping email by sender/subject and the ability to work with email and texting in landscape mode for a wider keyboard.

gmasters
gmasters

I already pay to much for monthly service and don't even have test msg- my family combo service plan needs to be more affordable before I get a phone more capable of using that service.

Just64
Just64

No closed source proriety software products on my desk...thank you! Android....yes!

john3347
john3347

I cannot think of anything that would encourage me to buy anything whose name starts with a lower case "i"!

Datacommguy
Datacommguy

Bill, Once again your survey choices slanted the meaning of the question by using a limited set of answers. Without a "No, - since I wouldn't have bought one anyway", or even a "No, since I would have bought one anyway" - the first of which would have been my answer if I'd been able to voice it, you've asked a "Have you stopped beating your wife" question. As you can see in the comments, none of the available answers reflect response of the majority of folks who would have answered as I wanted to.

cupcake
cupcake

I am an original iPhone owner and can't wait to get my hands on the new OS. And as soon as the kid gets his grades up to previously identified levels, he gets the original and I will plunk down my hard earned cash for the 3G. So to respond to a few of the naysayers, I have used and had AT&T service for many many years (okay, technically it was Cellular One, and Cingular), but its all AT&T now. I have no issues with service coverage or dropped calls, although the Edge network is frustrating. But for the most part, I get WiFi almost everywhere I go (even to Iowa a few weeks back), so its a no brainer. And everyone I know with an iPhone (and I know LOTS) love their 3G speed. Personally, I would NEVER buy anything that comes out of Redmond, so for those who hate Apple for what they stand for, I respect that. We dislike who we dislike for our own reasons. I am one of those who wears the "I buy anything if its shiny and made by Apple" and everything I have ever bought has made me happy and never disappointed. Even when I dropped my iPhone and cracked the glass, Apple came to my rescue and replaced it. No questions asked and I didn't have to play any games. The new features in the 3.0 are awesome and I am betting on cooler new stuff to come from their R&D guys. I will be installing the beta just as soon as I have a chance.

Oz_Media
Oz_Media

I got my HTC with WinMobile 5.0 and they have gone to 5.5 and 6.0 which were simply free downloaded upgrades. I have my phone set to network synch and search for updates when i am in the office, it automaticall updates teh OS while on my belt and I don't even have to do f-all. Well that plus it actually does things I need it to do for business. ...as well as play music, videos etc. like an i-Phone of course

cupcake
cupcake

Please explain. Sounds like you're just as happy with your HTC as I am with my iPhone, so what's the sad part?

michael.muir
michael.muir

All the MicroSoft defenders never considered that THEY, like sheep, have always been paying for an inferior product either directly or bundled with a new machine and following blindly along. The ironic thing about it is those same critics fail to notice that platform they are defending is ALWAYS trying to emulate the platform they are criticising!

cupcake
cupcake

...was we each have our preferences and opinions. I don't understand the necessity of you belittling me because of my choices. But hey, go for it. If it makes you feel bigger or better about yourself. I carried around a basic Nokia phone for nearly a decade before plopping my money down on this device. I don't use it for business, but personally, I don't understand why it couldn't, everything I need to do at work could be accomplished with this phone. BTW, I don't carry a phone around for work. So in that case, I don't feel like I am able to comment on the business case. I don't believe I was trying 'to fool anyone'. I have to use an XP machine all day every day for work, but I know, personally, I can get done everything I need with my Macs easier, more efficiently and with less technical issues. And btw, the GUI Mac OS was around a long time before Windows... so when you start with the "they have nothing to offer that isn't already offered by someone else" crap you're just blowing your opinion again. Same goes for the "for less" BS. I know that there have been lots of discussions on this very board about this. I'd never pony up my money for an XBOX, who wants to waste their valuable time "playing" games? What ever your bias is against Apple and the iPhone, realize that is what it is. I don't see you discussing the merits of your choice, just squawking about how horrible the iPhone is. What does it matter what phone I carry? Sheesh... chill out.

Oz_Media
Oz_Media

Well, only a little but I don't drink coffee anymore and don't even drink pop unless it is caffeine free these days. Out of all of the reasons to laugh at the i-Phone craze, there is one rather minor point that was flawed. Nail me down and slap me silly! That's your only recourse? In Apple's defense, I do like their OS for MAC as it is excellent for audio/video rendering, beyond that they have nothing of real worth to offer that isn't already offered for less by someone else. As for proprietary, I also applaud that in this ever so cutting edge device that they will include the lastest technological advances this time, a headphone jack that is not proprietary! Well done Apple! I suppose they will seek to patent the 1/8" hedphone jack too now. I am sure you like your i-Phone, anyone owning one has been defending them since day one anyway. It's a fun toy and you can play with it and go 'WOW' as you enlarge and reduce pictures with your fingertips, amazing! You can sort through your pictures like a flip book, woweeeeeee! You can listen to overly compressed music, now THAT'S something! But you can do all that on an i-Pod without a contract too. As an entertaining toy, no problem (an X-Box with some games will be cheaper in the long run though, if that's the aim). As the business ready device people try to pretend it is, you're not fooling anyone.

cupcake
cupcake

I am not buying a new iPhone to get the upgrade. I am passing the old one to my son because he LOVES it and I am anxious to get the new one. The new upgrade DOES NOT require the upgrade. I will install the beta of the OS on my current first generation phone. Your assumption of the forced upgrade is just WRONG. And you know, everything you rant about (and it really is ranting) is your OPINION. Maybe you've been programmed too... except in a sort of negative way. Wow, dude, cut down on the caffeine. My OPINION is that I love my iPhone and I love my iPods and I love my Macs, OSX and all.

Oz_Media
Oz_Media

What's sad? They upgrade and you have to buy a new phone and contract then find some way of utilizing the old one usually meaning you have to pass off the old contract too. Just like the iPod, with its forced obsolesence, allows them to hook people into the 'i-Game' and screw them over anytime they want to generate some more revenue. Proprietary ANYTHING has never been good vaue for money to anyone except the company selling it. I have worked in coutless industries that offer proprietary products, in each and every case, the non proprietary goods offer better value for money and a happier user experience overall. iPhone software changes version so all they do is make it a proprietary hardware/feature upgrade and all of a sudden you neeed a new phone. MS has changed thier mobile OS a lot over the past few years, all functionality is already available on the phone so it's just a software upgrade when they make it do somethign new. HTC made the phone, MS writes the FREE software so the software/hardware is not proprietary and I just get free download to use new features, I don't have to pay i-money to the i-Store, or send it to the i-Sales rep for thier proprietary i-software or pay for a new i-phone. If I had a device that needed replacing in order to update it and gain new features, beyond for an entirely new far more superior device, I'd feel pretty scammed. Everyone's still happy with an i-Phone because they believe they are cutting edge. It's no different than selling sound in that respect, I can TELL someone they are hearing something and they will agree with me, whether they hear it or not, its just common psychology and the way the human ego works. nobody wants to say they don't have sophisticated taste, so when I speak of vast, spacial imaging they nod and say 'Oh, Yes! Do YOU hear the vast spacial imaging too, dear?' when often they don't even know what spacial imaging is. 2 weeks later they are convincing thier friends that they too hear 'spacial imaging'. If I tell someone they are hearing warm tone due to advanced lower midrange characteristics of a driver, they don't question it, they just eat it up and then tell thier friends all about the great lower midrange characteristics they are hearing too. Most consumers are programmable sheep, they want/need to be lead, they don't want to feel left behind by technology they don't really understand and the marketing giants like Apple depend on that. Look at BOSE for example. They buiild the some of cheapest speakers on the planet and pawn them off as the cutting edge AND MANY PEOPLE ACTUALLY BUY INTO IT! You can do better for $299.00 with a Panasonic speaker in a box system that you can by investing $1599.00 on a BOSE Accoustimass System, but they convince you that you are hearing things that aren't really there. Thier speakers can only physically reproduce 56% of actual audible frequencies, however they pass them off as the ultimate in sonic perfection. A pair of free speakers on Craigslist will outperform them almost every time. They even go as far as renaming old, common technology so they can patent it and sell it as unique. The iPhone, as a smartphone device, just falls short if being useful on both personal and business fronts. Personal use: poor tonal quality compared to actual phones, terrible camera compared to even the entry level FREE cell phone. I can browse the web and dowload apps, games and junk to my cell phone too, but I don't bother. Business use: it lacks any worthy computing features for business use. It's neither a good phone, a good camera nor a good computer, so what is it beyond an i-Pod with a touch screen and a way to buy more stuff from the i-Store.

bblackmoor
bblackmoor

The overpriced, locked-down, proprietary Apple iPhone holds no appeal for me. I have an Android phone.

Super_sonix
Super_sonix

please tell me this last statement is ironic? Quote "The overpriced, locked-down, proprietary Apple iPhone holds no appeal for me. I have an Android phone." I have to say, The overpriced, locked-down, proprietary of the phone holds no appeal for me. that is why I DONT have an Android phone. data mining, no modem, gimmicky apps store, limited sharing capabilities, these are the reasons i own neither (Iphone or G1) phone, and will be sticking with my WINDOWS HTC device for the forseeable future

rngunter
rngunter

Two things, you are limited to the AT&T network (so, those of us that are happy with our network or under a contract probably aren't up for chaniging). Second, I have and iPOD and I like it very much but, the darn thing crashes on me frequently. (And, yes, I've tried reformatting and upgrading software.) My point being, if it can't run music, how well is their phone going to work. All in all, a lot of hype and advertisement for something that's way overpriced and limited to one cell network.

johnh
johnh

If you're like me and you've never had an iPhone, what is OS3.0 compared to any other iPhone OS? Didn't know such existed. Is it any better than previous OS?

aderoche
aderoche

Been a Palm user for a while and am anxiously waiting for the Pre to become available.

BillFerreira
BillFerreira

Monthly cost way too high. My wife and I are retired and can't even begin to afford replacing our $70/mo combined cell phone bill with one that is well over twice as expensive. We'd be glad to replace our 2 ultra reliable Nokia phones with iPhones if there was a more affordable plan for us. In Japan, the monthly cost is about half what it is here in the states, how about it AT&T?

bergrrt
bergrrt

AT&T is only a vendor for the iPhone and they make their money from the contracts not the iPhone sales. Apple has total control of that phone, battery, memory, servicing, restricting carriers, etc. They make their money from... but, still, if it was a better product and AT&T had better connections I might try again.

shanse3
shanse3

I will never use AT&T for cellular service, and therefore won't get an iPhone until I can choose my service provider. I refuse to go with AT&T for a couple reasons: First, I know many people with an iPhone, and they all complain about the service. Second, I have AT&T as my internet provider, and their customer service is absolutely hellish. I used to think Comcast had bad service, but at least you actually get to talk to a human being, however incompetent they may be. Simple calls to AT&T customer (dis)service always take at least an hour.

richard.stroud
richard.stroud

Once the Installer is available for 3.0 and you can choose any carrier and they need to add bluetooth voice command.

Oz_Media
Oz_Media

iphone dev team says they have the jailbreak ready to go now. There have been several problems with YellowSnow's jailbreak though.

shanse3
shanse3

I didn't realize there was no voice command. That's a deal breaker right there.

dragoon
dragoon

it's called voicebox dailer and it's free

aron.bury
aron.bury

I dont know what it is, however it seems that about 30% of people I see these days have an Iphone, and those I know with one dont use alot of the features now. My main laptop is a 17" Macbook Pro and the IPhone would work perfectly with it, however as a buisness device, I still prefer the windows mobile OS for better multi-tasking and email support. So, given that I could run it off OSX and even with the new features, I would still not get an Iphone

JackOfAllTech
JackOfAllTech

I will NEVER, EVER own anything by Apple - the epitome of overbearing, restrictive, totalitarian, screw the customer businesses. Why anyone puts up with their "we know better than you" attitude I will never understand.

pjboyles
pjboyles

Let's see, can I get someone other than AT&T who can't provide the service I need? Nope. "It's dead Jim." No, I don't need a status symbol. I need a smart phone than can do what I need and works where I need it to work. And Maarek hit most of those.

SKDTech
SKDTech

Could care less, but not sure how. I like my AT&T service but part of what I like about it is the ability to switch phones as fast as I can switch the SIM chip over. I have a smartphone which gets terrible reception at home so I switch my SIM over to my old RAZR when at home. Can't do that with the iPhone, and I have no wish to have to deal with Apple just to get my phone to work.

MGP2
MGP2

:ar! No, the pirate isn't reflective of the topic. I just like the new emoticons.

DadsPad
DadsPad

it is still too expensive, I have seen no one say if you still have to send the IPhone back to manufacturer to change battery. All the download and internet fees are all extra cost items in a world where we need to save money. Too many people still spend a lot of money just for the kool factor.

Dogbert 7
Dogbert 7

a huge portion of the phone market is trying to emulate the iPhone. Heck, Blackberry just opened their own apps store which the base price of apps is $2.99 versus $0.99 for iTunes store. Plus iTune has plenty of decent free apps. Nobody is forcing anyone to pay for the apps they don't want. And yes, you still have too send it back to change the battery. Just like the iPod, the iTouch, etc.

Maarek Stele
Maarek Stele

You can't tether the device, you can't use it as a USB transfer/storage device. You still have to use iTunes and are only allowed 5 backups of your profile. I've used the device, but it's still a Palm Pilot w/ 1 button and no stylus. 3 OS updates for the iphone, but the Palm got everything right the first time. Flash... NO. video... (only new hardware). download files, not programs.... NO copy paste... yeah, finally. IM without breaking connection... NO download word docs, edit them, and send them back.... NEVER GPS in google maps? NO Turn by turn directions... finally w/ a fee. You know, I'll stick with my HTC FUZE and G1 DEV Phone. It does everything that the iphone does plus more at a better price no doubt.

speculatrix
speculatrix

no, I mean it. is it a phone? well, not a very good one, not trivial to pick up and dial a number, and without voice dialling, no good in a car. is it an offline media player? well, sort of, but it's quite big for the amount of storage. ok, it's got a reasonable screen. no memory card slot which is big limit. is it an online media player or games device? well, proprietary codecs and lack of flash suggest not. is it a pocket computer? without a keyboard, no. is it a navigation device? well, sort of, but it depends on being online to get maps. I don't think it does turn-by-turn instructions? yes, it's an elegant device, but I can think of many things which do any one feature ten times better! a netbook or even nokia tablet coupled to a cheap cellphone over bluetooth makes so much more sense!

john
john

Yes it's a great phone, conference calls are so simple and sound is really good. Yes it's a media player, on or offline and when you check the price of upgrading a Blackberry to 16GB iPhone is cheaper. With 16Gb you don't need a card slot. Yes it's a game player rivalling the PSP and DS but with a killer Apps store and huge developer community. Yes it's a computer - it has an awesome keyboard that isn't just a bunch of dumb switches but an intelligent touch interface that lets me type 36 words a minute. Far easier than my daughter's netbook. Did I mention you can easily read the screen in full sunlight. Yes you can navigate without being online - set the route at home and follow the course with GPS - no need to even see a map. But try going for a walk across country with a Tom Tom there's nothing to see but Google Maps on the iPhone shows every little footpath and tree. I'm in the UK and I was so glad when O2 got the contract for the iPhone - they have a completely seperate department for dealing with iPhone customers. It's staffed by really nice intelligent people who know what they are talking about. What a contrast to the monkeys at Vodafone and Orange. Nokia, RIM and Sony Ericsson certainly woke up when the iPhone arrived - when will their dumb users?

john
john

You even blame Apple for the 'musicians' you like creating poorly engineered, overly compressed audio on their CDs? It says as much about the chip on your shoulder as your taste in music. This discussion is about iPhone 3.0 - guess what, it has Cut & Paste and if you look in the App store you can get a fully featured CAD drawing program with FTP and email export for ?3.99 For some real world practical examples of iPhone's use - I was on a train the other day cleaning out the temp files from a customers server using RDC on the iPhone. I've bought stuff off eBay while walking along the seaside cliffs. I watch TV in the dentists waiting room. I've skirted around traffic jams with Google Maps. Exchange email and Calendar events are pushed onto the iPhone. I can store and read .DOC .PDF .XLS .PPT .JPG It even opens readable docs inside .ZIP files. And this is all before ver 3.0

Oz_Media
Oz_Media

And apple will be sending you your check when? It's a great computer????? A computer that can't store, create or edit documents? A computer that can't cut and paste? Damn even cell phones have better cameras too, the i-Phone camera sucks ass! It's a toy, a fun toy that does neato stuff, but it can't be used for anything else. Even if I had an i-Phone I would still need my HTC for business use as it has everything you need for business, which is everything the i-Phone doesn't have. I can type fast on my slide out keyboard, even better still, I write in normal cursive writing, no special lines or directions and it creates perfect text documents. I sketch a layout of a diagram and it converts it to a perfect line drawing that I can then save as a PDF and send it to clients or to a printer via bluetooth. i-Phone does nothing, it is junk when it comes to actually performing tasks. Just like the i-Pod it's low quality crap for kids who like to be anti-MS and trendy. i-Pods perpetuated crappy, compressed music formats, now even CD's have poor engineering and overcompression because so many people think that earbuds and a compressed audio track is cool. Sad.

ddruda
ddruda

Apple's business plan and the way it treated competitors over the years (Remember how it bankrupted Franklin Computer) has turned me off to even considering any Apple product in my house. The most recent was when Apple took it upon itself to claim the Iphone name from Cisco when introducing the product and then backroom negotiating it.

cupcake
cupcake

"Franklin admitted that it had copied Apple's software but argued that it would have been impractical to independently write its own versions of the software and maintain compatibility". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_v._Franklin I guess Apple should have allowed another company to blatantly steal their code? And you sound just like every other Apple-hating writer... I have a newspaper with the headline that alludes to Apple's imminent demise. When was it printed in the San Jose Mercury News? Nearly 20 years ago. Wow... I guess I should go dump my Apple stock? Yeah, I don't think so.

ububo
ububo

you can rant all you want. With the maturity of the app store, in 5 years we will see who is more prescient, you or Apple.

Maarek Stele
Maarek Stele

yeah, maybe there'll be a 3rd phone out there sometime this year, but anyone who does upgrade to it will probably have to buy their apps over again due to some "change" that Apple will do something to force users to pay for everything again. The company doesn't care about the individual other than the $$$ in their pocket. The only real person that thinks of you is the support person who your on the phone w/ for over an hour that you convinced to do something for you for free. I'll go back to my original statement. I've owned 3 different Palm Pilots over the years, each with newer hardware, but the same OS. They didn't change it because it worked. there were things about it that I didn't like which Microsoft, Google, and Nokia fixed, but Apple is too reluctant to change. I'm a Savvy person, so I'll steer clear of the iPhone. for everyone else who likes the phone, enjoy.

cupcake
cupcake

Palm didn't chang the software with the hardware because it worked? What happened to innovation? Please, if that were the case, then you'd be typing on a manual typewriter and picking up a landline phone with a big rotating dial on it. And just to be cleaer, you are talking about Microsoft when you talk about the company that doesn't care about the individual other than the $$$ in their pocket? I've never seen a company come up with excuses to charge you for something and offer you next to nothing. I'm a savvy person, not afraid of change and innovation, so I'll stick with my iPhone. Thank you very much.

Oz_Media
Oz_Media

How can you possibly predict this market 5 years down the road? We aren't talking abotu what COULD be or what WILL be, we are talking about the latest device specifically (read the discussion title). Fact is, no copy or paste, no document storage, sharing, editing or transfer. Crappy on screen keypad, no handwriting recognition, no drawing recognition, no stylus etc. And unless they change thier entire focus and start using a more compatible/worthy touch screen technology they never will offer such functionality. The touch is an old system, modified and repatented, as are most Apple 'breakthroughs', it simply cannot support business needs. HTC P4000, dances circles around i-Phone and its had such functionality years before i-Phone was even an Apple dream. Get with the program, study the facts and bottom line before you go all kiddy-giddy over the trendy BS. i-Phone is a toy, it's a really cool toy, but not functional for anything besides fun.

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