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Install Microsoft Management Console 3.0 for Windows XP SP2

The Microsoft Management Console (MMC) 3.0 can help you create custom consoles in Windows XP and Windows Vista. Greg Shultz tells us how to put it all together in this tip.

The Microsoft Management Console (MMC) application provides you with an interface shell into which you can insert various tools called snap-ins to create custom consoles. While custom consoles can come in handy for performing any number of tasks, Windows XP's MMC 2.0 convoluted console-creation process often seems counterintuitive.

Fortunately, Microsoft has made the new MMC interface developed for Windows Vista available for Windows XP. Version 3.0 of the MMC application provides more functionality for snap-ins than prior versions and sports a smoother-looking user interface that makes it much easier to create and use consoles.

One of the biggest changes in MMC 3.0 for Windows XP is the new Add or Remove Snap-ins interface. Instead of having to use a tedious procedure that involves two separate dialog boxes to build a custom console, the new MMC 3.0 provides a single dialog box that makes it much easier to create custom consoles.

Downloading and installing the MMC 3.0 for Windows XP is a breeze. However, you must manually enable the new user interface by adding a key to the registry. Here's how:

  1. Download the Microsoft Management Console 3.0 for Windows XP from the Microsoft Download Center.
  2. Locate and run the WindowsXP-KB907265-x86-ENU.exe executable file to launch the MMC 3.0 installation wizard.
  3. Once the installation is complete, launch the Registry Editor (Regedit.exe).
  4. Go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\ SOFTWARE\Microsoft\MMC.
  5. Right-click the MMC subkey and select New | Key.
  6. Name the key UseNewUI and press [Enter].
  7. Close the Registry Editor.

Now, when you launch MMC.exe from the Run dialog box, you'll be able to take advantage of the new Add or Remove Snap-ins interface. You simply scroll through the available snap-ins in the left panel and click the Add button to build your custom console in the right panel.

Notes: This tip applies to both Windows XP Home and Professional but requires that Service Pack 2 or 3 is installed. Editing the registry is risky, so be sure you have a verified backup before making any changes.

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Greg Shultz is a freelance Technical Writer. Previously, he has worked as Documentation Specialist in the software industry, a Technical Support Specialist in educational industry, and a Technical Journalist in the computer publishing industry.

28 comments
bkrsrb
bkrsrb

OK I'm really confused. I have done the worst and installed SP3 all seems well except the Recovery Console and the safe mode are not working any longer. I installed the MMC -properly but now I cannot use either the Recovery Console or Safe mode as noted above. Am I wrong in thinking the MMC is a needed part of puzzle for Recovery Console or am I dead wrong. I am legally blind but have a pretty fair knowledge base but this has me stumped.. I miss things more than I care to admit so need some direction to get this working. Casn anyone give me a hand making this work. If I'm in the qwrong place could you kindly let me know where I should be to get this right? Thank you

nacht
nacht

Is there really no easy way to move snap-ins to a folder (for organization) other than removing the snap-in, changing "Snap-ins added to:" to the new Folder, then re-adding them?

seanferd
seanferd

Thanks. I like my new MMC.

seanferd
seanferd

Exactly what further instructions could possibly be needed? If this is confusing, I'll suggest that using the MMC snap-ins may render your system inoperable.

promytius1
promytius1

first after posting my entry I get this: You must enter a title for your message You must enter the text for the body of your message You must select a category for your thread. Error trying to locate resource Here's my original entry: setup has determined that the service pack version of this system is newer than the update you are applying. There is no need to install this update. What planet have I materialized on?

brian
brian

we understand that it is already in the SP 3, we don't need 10 people sayin the exact same thing "MMC3 SP3 version is newer than this patch" or something along those lines

glennbabbitt
glennbabbitt

After reading your article, I downloaded the program from MS, but when I went to install, it said I already had it. Went into MMC, and sure enough, it is Ver 3! Must have come down when, in a moment of weakness, I went ahead and added SP3. By the way, I had no probs resulting from SP3, but I am not using Norton.

heavy3230
heavy3230

System requirements are XP and Service Pack 2

emagin
emagin

KB908265 Setup Error Setup detected that the service pack version of this s ystem is newer than the update you are applying. Does not work

gmortensensprint
gmortensensprint

While I attempted to install MMC3 on my XP SP3 system, I was advised that I had a newer version that the installation. Caveat Installor.

MentorCtl
MentorCtl

MMC is installed with WinXP SP3.

mark.peters
mark.peters

I get Setup has detected that the service pack version of this system is newer than the update you are applying. There is no need to install this update.

kirk227
kirk227

Now that we've suffered through MMC 3 installation, where do we get snap-ons to use it for? Microsoft.com won't even admit this hack can be done much less tell you how to get snap-ons unless you go the Microsoft way.

seanferd
seanferd

Okay, you didn't just install SP3 because you wanted MMC 3.0, did you? You don't have to install the entire service pack to do that. You don't need the MMC for Recovery Console or Safe Mode. Something else is going on. As I have so far avoided installing the entire SP3, my suggestion is to start a new thread in the Questions forum, and state the nature of your problems with SP3 there. Also, include information on the problem that prompted you to use Safe Mode and Recovery Console. Here's a link to the Questions Forum input box for you. http://techrepublic.com.com/5200-6230-0.html?contentType=2

seanferd
seanferd

Drag-n-drop functionality would be kind of nice here. The easiest way, I find, is to run mmc and build a new console from scratch, adding snap-ins to however many folders you require.

observer2
observer2

What's a snap-in? And, what kinds of things might they be useful for?

bkrsrb
bkrsrb

Don't you think the reason they are asking as well as myself is because something is wrong. Maybe they don't know how to use a board. What we need is a fix not witless remarks. When I bring up the console there is nothing there to indicate anything. No way to pick anything but my nose. I am no novice. the instructions could be better defined. they do not have any suggestion if there is, as in this case a problem or reason why we get the message after the Registry hack. Thanks and if anyone has any idea what to do it would be appreciated.

ufo2826
ufo2826

I guess that's what happens when an original post is less than clear!

ANSido
ANSido

Ok, MMC 3.0 comes with Windows XP SP3 or can be downloaded separately. Greg Shutz had to point it out to avoid confusion. Make sure you have installed .NET Framework v2.0 (2.0.50727) with SP1 prior to MMC 3.0 installation and/or use. There are currently four versions of .NET Framework there: v1.1 + SP1 (23 MB + 10 MB), v2.0 + SP1 (22 MB + x), v3.0 + SP1 (50 MB + x), and v3.5 (197 MB). .NET Framework v3.5 comes with SP1 for v2.0 and SP1 for v3.0. As I was told by Microsoft Information and TechSupport Center, the newer version doesn?t replace the previous. You should keep all four on your PC to run applications written for use with any specific version of .NET Framework.

mark.peters
mark.peters

I discovered you still need to add the registry key to use the new UI.

seanferd
seanferd

The snap-ins that come with the OS should provide most functionality you need, however. Also, some utility programs use MMC as an interface, Diskeeper, for example, which is defragmentation software. You can build and save your own Console of snap-ins, adding the ones you want. Type mmc in the run box. Under File, click Add/Remove snap-in, and go from there. Some folks can write their own snap-ins. I've not investigated how to do this, but I suppose the info is out there. Have fun. :)

seanferd
seanferd

Snap-ins are the tools that run in the MMC. MMC.exe by itself does very little for you, except to load and run the snap-ins. Anything you can pick from File > Add... in an empty console is a snap-in. Common snap-ins: certmgr.msc Certificate manager ciadv.msc Indexing service compmgmt.msc Computer management (groups several other snap-ins) devmgmt.msc Device manager dfrg.msc Defrag diskmgmt.msc Disk management eventvwr.msc Event log viewer fsmgmt.msc Shared folders gpedit.msc Group policy lusrmgr.msc Local users and groups ntmsmgr.msc Removable storage ntmsoprq.msc Removable storage operator requests perfmon.msc Performance monitor rsop.msc Resultant set of policy secpol.msc Security policy services.msc Services wmimgmt.msc Windows management instrumentation comexp.msc Component services (COM, etc.)

ProperName
ProperName

I'm not sure why others have been having problems with this Tip? I read the article and since I am running SP3, I took the extra step of checking which version of mmc I was running, before I did anything else. My preference to be prepared for anything which may befall me while learning a new trick :-) Such as it is, I determined that I already had MMC 3.0 installed and I simply made the change to the registry without any errors and am now happily using the new interface. Thanks to the author for this new information.

seanferd
seanferd

An edit of the original instructions as provided in the article. Notes: This tip applies to both Windows XP Home and Professional but requires that Service Pack 2 or 3 is installed. Editing the registry is risky, so be sure you have a verified backup before making any changes. [XP SP2 minimum is required. If you have installed SP3, you probably already have MMC 3.0 installed. See below.] 1. Download the Microsoft Management Console 3.0 for Windows XP from the Microsoft Download Center. [In order to avoid confusion or unnecessary downloading, check your MMC version: Type mmc in the Run box on the Start Menu. In the console window, click Help > About Microsoft Management Console... and see if you have version 3.0 installed. If you have version 3.0, skip to step 3.] 2. Locate and run the WindowsXP-KB907265-x86-ENU.exe executable file to launch the MMC 3.0 installation wizard. 3. Once the installation is complete, launch the Registry Editor (Regedit.exe). [Type regedit in the Run box on the Start Menu] 4. Go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\ SOFTWARE\Microsoft\MMC. 5. Right-click the MMC subkey and select New > Key. 6. Name the key UseNewUI and press [Enter]. [No spaces in UseNewUI] 7. Close the Registry Editor. Now, when you launch MMC.exe from the Run dialog box, you?ll be able to take advantage of the new Add or Remove Snap-ins interface. You simply scroll through the available snap-ins in the left panel and click the Add button to build your custom console in the right panel. [Typing mmc in the Run box gives you an empty console, no snap-ins are loaded, such as when you run, say, Event Viewer from Administrative tools on the Start Menu, or type eventvwr.msc in the Run box. This is what you want. To use the new interface as described: Start > Run > Type mmc >> In the console: File > Add/Remove Snap-in... will get you the list of available snap-ins from which to add to your new console. Choose as you will. The Advanced button will allow you to organize multiple snap-ins in the tree, otherwise, they are all directly under Console Root. Save your new console when you are finished. I hope this helps. I will expand further upon request. :)

seanferd
seanferd

All I've seen so far is that folks are confused if they already have the latest MMC. I'm interested in what error you receive after the hack.

nahmad
nahmad

MMC 3.0 is part of XP SP3 but to use that you still need to add registry key.

seanferd
seanferd

You must be some kind o' mutant genius or something, right? I'll bet you even figured out where the secret new Add/Remove is, you 1337 hAx0r! Sail on! OK. Sorry if the above offends anyone, but it is just humor, not a serious mocking. I'd be glad to assist anyone who actually returns to the thread rather than posting a complaint, never to return to check for any helpful answers. I'm having as much difficulty understanding the problem as some people have understanding the instructions or the MMC. I thought that nahmad, and mark.peters (who solved his own issue) had it nailed with the concept that you have to add the registry key. If you have the update installed, regardless of how or when the installation occurred, you move on to the next step of editing the registry. If there are different issues with the process, report the problem with error messages, and someone will help.

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