Windows 8 optimize

Only half of you have downloaded Windows 8

In a recent poll I asked how many TechRepublic members had downloaded Windows 8 Developers Preview. There weren't as many downloads as I would have guessed.

On September 23, 2011, I asked a simple poll question:

Have you downloaded and tried Windows 8 Developer Preview?

Being a person who gets paid to try every new Windows thing that comes out, I guess I have a skewed view of things -- I thought an overwhelming majority of TechRepublic readers would have downloaded and tried Windows 8. I mean, I seem to be getting a ton of opinions as if most of you had downloaded it.

So why have you not downloaded the Windows 8 preview version? Are you waiting for the beta version?

About

Mark Kaelin is a CBS Interactive Senior Editor for TechRepublic. He is the host for the Microsoft Windows and Office blog, the Google in the Enterprise blog, the Five Apps blog and the Big Data Analytics blog.

44 comments
Kostaghus
Kostaghus

I hate touching my screen. Have to clean it way to often. It's also barbaric and unprecise. I guess that if i changed from 98SE to XP in 2002, and have just shifted one of my 4 machines to Win 7 last week, I can wait till 2017-2020 to shift to touch (if ever). Been running Linux on one of them for 2 years now...

ttx19
ttx19

is crap they have not told the true again windows 8 all it does is spy on you it take your rights a way from you and they do not want you to know this at all read the lic's it give microsoft all that you put on the computer it will not belive to you any more they will own it and you will not read and you will give them your family Pictures and more and you will lose it and microsoft know this and they do not want you to know this and they keep saying hacker in the usa but it is in china and they will not tell you this to do not trust microsoft at all

dcolbert
dcolbert

First observations... Have a touch-screen device to demo this. I'm not sure what real value add a non-touch capable device is going to get out of the developer's preview right now. The MetroUI is touch-centric (and cool). I'm using an HP 21.5" touch screen LCD with a core-duo centrino laptop - The promise of Win 8 with touch screen devices is clear. Second - make sure your screen size is adjusted. I struggled with this for awhile. The demo native apps wouldn't load - in fact, nothing would load from the Metro UI except the Settings tile. If I switched to the traditional desktop, I could get IE to load up. Got into the screen resolution and realized I was at 800x600. Moved the resolution up and suddenly the Metro UI started working a whole lot better. Haven't had much of a chance to play with it since I got it set up - and it seems a little choppy on the dual-core Centrino - but you can see the potential and where it is headed - and I think that bringing parity between the desktop OS and the mobile OS is a good idea. I suspect we're going to start seeing a lot of ASUS "Transformer" type devices. Once you've worked with notebook/clamshell devices with touch screen - it just makes sense. It doesn't even need to convert or transform into a tablet - just having a touch screen is a big bonus. Microsoft seems to be on the same page as I am with this.

andrew232006
andrew232006

Most of my time at the computer lately has been spent troubleshooting bugs in windows 7 that only microsoft can properly fix. I'll probably try it briefly in a VM when I have some free time. But first I think my home PC may need to be formatted.

oldbaritone
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with Win-7 that doesn't have drivers for older equipment that the boss won't replace and doesn't work properly in "compatibility mode". Don't need more headaches with beta versions and more hardware that won't work. And then I played with Linux and found that it would run the legacy hardware OK, my programs ran fine under Wine, and it was free. If I have to re-learn another OS, I'm not going to bother with beta and beg for bug-fixes.

chdchan
chdchan

I think tiles are far too tablet-oriented, oversized in limited screen size and overstuffed with too much information. Rather, I prefer optional Web2.0-style bubbles of details that can pop up when moving over icons. If MS can offer somewhat like complimentary upgrade trial, that would be great.

Paul R.A.
Paul R.A.

downloaded it, and have been really trying to be open about it. I am usually the agent-what I see is a tablet os though. and with it on a desktop (64 bit with dev tools) and a netbook (32 bit) neither are right for this os. It is not a desktop set up - unless Microsoft envisions everyone to have all in one touch screen computers. positive points- easy install, already stable code and will work great for what it is really targeted to - tablet and phones - not mouse/keyboard negatives- not keen on the single sign in with my live account- once that gets hacked - you lose it all, as the hacker controls your cloud, your email, your desktop, your phone (if you use windows phone) your tablet etc- that's the vision with wIn 8 - always connected the other issues have all been said before- no command prompt, no run, no start menu - just the metro page etc. but then again - this is optimized for touch screens and finger gestures - it is compatible with mice and some keyboard commands- but that's compatible - not native interaction don;t expect the beta to be much different BTW- the code base is already set, the design is set- I really think MS needs to partner with someone and just launch thier own tablets then rethink the desktop side

nwallette
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I didn't notice the poll. I've downloaded Win 8, installed it in a VirtualBox VM, used it for 10 minutes, then went back to my XP VM. The way I see it, Windows 8 is like that two-faced guy from The Hitchhiker's Guide -- the normal, Windows 7-ish face, and the creepy Metro face that pops up and makes you question if you're really seeing what you're seeing. It's also not as good at either of those things as dedicated desktop and tablet OSes are, so there's really no point in using it. Windows 8 looks like the brainchild of someone with vast resources and absolutely no common sense. We haven't even successfully transitioned the PC market from 32-bit to 64-bit yet, and MS thinks we can jump directly to touch devices as our primary interface? Did I sleep through a decade of UI transitioning? Have applications and workflows progressed that far, or is having Angry Birds the only requirement to be a mature platform these days? Side note: I find it interesting that everyone is complaining the release cycle is too fast after the entire industry complained that XP was getting long in the tooth while waiting for Vista. I think Apple and Linux have a better strategy here with the relatively frequent, incremental low- or no-cost upgrades, which bring likewise incremental features and (hardware) support. Way better than dropping a huge paradigm shift on the users of millions of devices every few years.

peter_stwn
peter_stwn

i Already installed and running it right now with dual booting with my 7. However, I'm planning to uninstall windows 8, because some program still not compatible with this version especially my antivirus. I'm using symantec. after i installed to 8, my windows cannot start at all. maybe it because that still beta. it's happend with previous vista and 7 while in Beta, But so far I like the way windows 8 going..Banzaii...microsoft..

Jacdes
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I am fed up with Microsoft's buggy systems. I'm using win7 and there are patches to update it almost daily. They launch new os's without them being bug free. Linux doesn't. Guess where I'm going and it isn't windows.

mudpuppy1
mudpuppy1 like.author.displayName 1 Like

Windows isn't updated "almost daily." It's once a month with the occasional out of cycle patch. There is no such thing as bug-free software. Linux has bugs too. My Ubuntu laptop gets update often enough, many of which are bug fixes.

kgriffith
kgriffith

We don't even have windows 7 in the work place yet. I am a little tired of new windows os. The tablets hitting the market hard, I'm not sure how long the desktop will be around. Between the tablet and the cloud, it is only a matter of time.

Darren B - KC
Darren B - KC

I'm not the least bit interested in Windows 8. I'm just now getting Windows 7 installed on our domain machines and I can assure you that they'll be running Windows 7 until months, if not years, after Microsoft stops supporting it.

tvictoriano
tvictoriano like.author.displayName 1 Like

Not another Windows, Uuuugh. people are now moving to android. and tablets. im happy with my old and paid windows XP. I dont need windows 8 or 9 or 19 or 20. MS is trying to sell us somethin we dont need.

mudpuppy1
mudpuppy1

as soon as I heard it was available (about a month or so ago). Didn't know about your poll. I am NOT fond of Metro (which I refer to as Metro(sexual)). It's just not right for the desktop. Fortunately, I have a spare PC of relatively recent vintage to put it on. I have not tested it in a dual-monitor situation as that one only has one monitor. I've heard it has issues with multiple monitors. Not good if true as my primary desktop has dual monitors. Actually, now is the time to let MS know your opinion while it is easy and cheap to fix any issues. MS needs to reduce the number of versions down to one or two instead of the 5-7 they have now. But, they don't need to merge a phone/tablet version with a desktop/laptop version. The two are used differently and will be for some time. At least, let it detect the type of hardware and supply the correct interface (which the user could over ride if desired).

fbldsyt
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I have not downloaded, I have read about WIN8 and looked at screen shots. My reasons for NOT going there are.... 1) Cost of the O/s and associated training and applications. 2) Interface: I am NOT a tablet or mobile PC user. 3) Touch screen does NOT interest me, or fit my needs. 4) If it's not broken then why fix it?

iworsfold
iworsfold

I downloaded it shortly after it was made available being curious about the new metro interface. However was unable to install it within VMware workstation so I???m going to wait for the beta release next year or most likely RC later on as this is what I've done with the past OSs.

Gisabun
Gisabun

I'd wait for a RC. At least I can properly judge it with a more finalized copy.

Dogcatcher
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I'm curious as to what Windows 8 will bring, but not curious enough to waste time on a rough, still evolving, product. Other factors: * I have no touch-screen devices. * My eye-hand-mouse coordination is quite good. * Having advanced beyond grade school, I do not need stacks of colored blocks on my desk.

sonnystarks
sonnystarks like.author.displayName 1 Like

"Having advanced beyond grade school, I do not need stacks of colored blocks on my desk." Are you listening, Microsoft?

Regulus
Regulus

First, lets remember that you really have to have a 'sandbox' machine available that is Vista/Win 7 capable . If you load this on your primary, bank on losing everything. That way, you may not be so disappointed. Tip- while your data may survive, it is doubtful that many programs will - you'll need to reinstall them and your virus scanner will probably not work. My current 'Road Machine' is a re-furb 2.5 year old Azus Aspire One Netbook. It started with XP Home > Vista > Win 7 Beta > Win 7 Ult >Win8. It can dual-boot with Linux on a separate partition in case some little kid finds a MS backdoor key and the whole thing goes 'Belly-Up'. The Internet runs on Unix, not MS and I can do most anything on Linux that I can do in MS. Oh, Yeah - the Metro-UI concept doesn't play well with this unit / screen resolution. All of the keyboard-shortcuts that I use (Win + --) (Ctrl/Shift+Esc) seem to work well. Win 8 is a 'Development Preview', not even in beta as yet. Don't act like its' a final platform. It does seem to represent MS's transitioning us to a Smartphone / Tablet mentality and the obsolesence previous platforms. What to do?, Get a 1 T-Byte or larger external usb drive (which you should have anyways). Store a full current image of all of your devices. Then store all of your data in copied form separately. Don't forget a weekly update of your '.pst' file if you're still chained to Outlook. No, don't depend on the 'Cloud' to do this for you. As always, 'it depends-----' and 'your mileage may vary'.

seanferd
seanferd

Too busy to play with 8 at the moment, and doing something like this always requires disk space I mostly do not have. Also, I'm not entirely prepared to risk being unable to fix the boot record after installing. Since Windows is never friendly about boot records.

HAL 9000
HAL 9000

I'm still predominately using XP because that's what the customers want. Sure I have a Dual Boot Option into Windows 7 Professional 64 Bit but I honestly do not use it that often. About once a day I'll open 7 update the AV Product and maybe spend a few minutes browsing the TR Forums late at night but really it's hardly being used. 8 On the other hand isn't even at the Beta Stage so while I have no issues playing with M$ Beta;s I'm just not interested in the Pre Beta's that M$ releases. The Beta Versions have more than enough problems and look very different from the finished product so I don't expect 8 to be even called that when it eventually gets released and certainly the User Interface is going to be radically different. With the Beta's you have more than enough trouble getting things to work and like some people have asked how they can possibly load some Software on their 8 Systems that currently isn't supported I really don't see the need to setup a [b]Bot Special[/b] to get infected and spread it's evil across the net. Just my 2 cents worth though. ;) Col

Dogcatcher
Dogcatcher

"I'm still predominately using XP because that's what the customers want. Sure I have a Dual Boot Option into Windows 7 Professional 64 Bit...." I continue to use XP because many e-mail, Word, and Excel tasks are simply easier to do in that environment, but I got tired of rebooting between XP and Win7. After trying several options, I found that running XP as a virtual machine within Win7 using VMWare's free Player is an excellent solution. Had to learn a few new tricks to put the VM and its associated files in a separate partition (not required, just my preference), but the payback in terms of efficiency has been tremendous. The right tool for the task at hand is now on my desktop at all times, and files are easily moved between the OSs.

HAL 9000
HAL 9000

Is that some things just don't work. Things like High End Multi Function Devices read that as 50K + Photocopiers and some software that's specialised In House Stuff work perfectly on XP but not in XP Mode or in a Virtual Environment under 7. I did however try M$ Offering XP Mode and VM Ware which works with most things better than XP Mode but it???s not quite there yet for my needs. ;) I'm finding however that I'm not constantly switching between XP and 7 I have to force myself to open 7. :D Col

Slayer_
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And I am hating it, Windows 8 may drive me mad.

tracer
tracer

This 5-year-old PC ran better with 7 than with XP, and it runs flawlessly with 8. Yes there are some unfinished parts of 8, but I'm running it because it just works.

B.Kaatz
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As we have all come to know, Microsoft has their own pattern for releases of the new operating systems: Good, Bad, Good, Bad, Good... So, Win98 = Good, WinME = Bad, WinXP = Good, Vista = Bad, Win7 = Good... So, wait through Win8 for Win9!

widd11e
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There is no way I can run my computer like a tablet. It just will not work. I guess for the everyday person online they could do this. But my computer is a tool that I use for many things including ADMIN work. I don't want to even bother trying to set it up... no need to waste my time. I run betas so don't get me wrong here. But to me Windows 8 is just wrong from the get go. Microsoft to me is catering to the everyday user, and not to editors, Administrators, etc.

rod6047
rod6047

how do i install it

seanferd
seanferd

As with any OS provided in the form of a downloadable ISO file, you burn it to a disk and stick it in the drive. Reboot. Or you could learn how to image the ISO to a USB Flash drive and boot from that. If installing 8 in a multi-boot configuration, make sure your other OS is backed up. Know that you may have to repair your boot loader for the other OS when you inevitably remove 8. Do I need to say that you must have available free space on a drive, and create a new primary partition for 8 to be installed in? If any of this escapes you, don't bother. You'll end up hosing your system.

carlsf
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I am happy with my current O/S's (XP, VISTA and WIN7) and here I will be staying. I have not downloaded, I have read about WIN8 and looked at screen shots. My reasons for NOT going there are.... 1) Cost of the O/s and associated training and applications. 2) Interface I am NOT a tablet or mobile phone user to that extent. 3) Touch screen does NOT interest me, or fit my needs. 4) If it not broken then don't fix it. As above we will stay where we are, and if we need 9or are forced by MS to change, I've been testing Google (cloud, g mail and docs) I like what I see and the COSTS very nice.

Spexi
Spexi

In fact been using it since the second week after it became free to download. Quite stable as long the old interface is used, if using Metro a bit bigger risk for things get's stuck between moments but for being just an pre-view it's better than expected. Otherwise, people usually busy these days as mentioned, think there is many as well that having other interests with families work friends or other hobbies. Mostly for power users and developers or people who feeling curious in see what it is. Anyhow, fun to get involved in the digital evolution and help things getting better :)

dcolbert
dcolbert

I've downloaded it twice - but having the hardware to leverage it is the problem. I've pulled my two drives from my HP DV8030US and plan on installing a new drive in it just for Win8 - then hooking it up to my 21.5" HP touch-screen LCD to really put it through its paces. But a vacation to Disney World and being shipped a PATA drive when I needed SATA have set my plans back. I'm really excited about where Windows 8 might lead us.

dominoscr
dominoscr

I am excited about it, but I just haven't had time to download and set it up yet. With all the iOS 5 thins I have been doing lately, and Mango, and ice cream sandwich, I have not gotten around to it but plan to soon!

Mark W. Kaelin
Mark W. Kaelin

So why have you not downloaded Windows 8? Waiting for the actual beta or just plain not interested?

hrosita
hrosita

I am waiting for the Beta version

CharlieSpencer
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then there's probably no reason for you to download it. Linux and Apple users, managerial or high levels, etc., may have no interest in it, especially this early. I'm surprised half of us have looked at it. I looked at it on a test system for three or four days, then wiped it. There are still too many sharp corners and rough edges; I'll wait until the beta is released and look again. I've nothing else to gain from a support standpoint until the OS is closer to completion.

info.idre
info.idre

I am fed up with the habit of Microsoft to issue new expensive versions so frequently (and without any attempt to eliminate the vulnerable IE from the core of its OS! I am looking for a new and more secure OS; maybe Asia (read China) will soon take over the leading role, that Microsoft has today. Soon Microsoft has to leave the throne to another and more qualified OS developer. Cheers, sweidre

CharlieSpencer
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except new ways to (illegally) exploit the work of others.

bapgill
bapgill

Have you read many engineering journals of late? You may be surprised by the names and their associated institutions.

Tom T Tuttle
Tom T Tuttle

I downloaded it the first day it was available. I loaded it, looked at how much was locked down, not working yet and just not ready. I watched the forums on it and received enough information. I don't want to test, work or try something that you have to modify to make it work, just isn't worth my time. Will wait for something that has more of a "feel" for what is going to actually be coming. In the meantime I will continue to use what I like, Windows 7, which is doing everything that I need it to do. It does everything I want, no desire for some of the new features at this time.