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Software is Dead???: And just what do these companies think will happen when somebody hits the site with a DoS? All of a sudden, people will not be able to use their web-based word processors or spreadsheets. With most companies, even if the network is down, people still have access to their productivity software. Software dead?? I don't think so.
Software Dead?: I agree with DLancas. Although I think we will see a trend towards more web based products and services they will serve to augment, rather than replace, traditional site based software programs. For a variety of reasons that will notchange there will always be advantages to having a particuliar software package resident on the system rather than accessed thru any sort of network/internet connection.
software dead: Naw, software lives. The ASP thing will probably make stuff available to customers who would not otherwise buy it, maybe because it costs too much up front to buy all the licenses, hardware and so on. Maybe keep some customers usingapplications they were going to dump in favor of something cheaper.
So I think it will be in addition to, not instead of, traditional installed software.
So I think it will be in addition to, not instead of, traditional installed software.
I whole heartedly agree. Installed and locally run software will still be around for a long time to come. If you use a LAN as a model for software installations, you can easily see that a few applications may make the ASP model attractive but larger applications will be on our desktops for a long time coming. Most packages require too much bandwidth and are too crucial to trust to a WAN.
Software is dead!: In terms of technology software is as alive as never. Everything that is mentioned there is software. The only things changing is the way by which the software gets to the end-user and how the software will communicate. Basically the software-sales model is changing. I would say that probably action driven software will eventually die in 10 years. The place will probably be taken by knowledge driven software.
Software is both dead and alive.: Since business provides 85% of the PC market, the ASP model will be adapted for the office environment. Businesses will run their applications on intranet servers. Desk top PCs will run ROM based communication programs. Businesses will put up with an intranet server going down every now and then as long as they have a TI department to bring it up again. User machine maintenance will be reduced to module replacement. Support will only have to service server software.
Home and small office machines will stay pretty much as they are. I don't think the communications services will be available in the near future to support an internet based ASP model.
Joel
Home and small office machines will stay pretty much as they are. I don't think the communications services will be available in the near future to support an internet based ASP model.
Joel
Effect of web based productivity software: I don't think the IT field will be shrinking anytime soon. Companies will still need to store data and connect users. More than anything, it will free up time tracing down errant "bugs" and allow IT to better serve their customers with faster LANs, less difficult security procedures, and a uniform software interface.
As evident from Yahoo!, Amazon.com, eBay and others this week, the Internet has far to go before companies will entrust complete productivity to other organizations.
Michelle Morris
As evident from Yahoo!, Amazon.com, eBay and others this week, the Internet has far to go before companies will entrust complete productivity to other organizations.
Michelle Morris
Regarding the web based applications article: Yes, these new startup companies do have a point, but it will take some time before people realize the tremendous benefits of web based applications. You also have the problem of hackers and other unforseen problems when the network does go down making the application useless for the end user. I don't believe it will completely wipe out all support jobs or anything close to it, but it focus more on how to troubleshoot problems related to the interaction of the network and what could be causing the probelm rather than the program itself.
Software is dead?!!!: I just love the pundits on these items. The landscape may change but the bottom line will not. I agree that ASP's and web based delivery will surely make inroads but there is a large established base of small offices that either:
* can't afford it
* don't trust it
* won't buy into it until it's tried and true
We'll see this time next year how many inroads have been made. I think outsourcing in general of some applications makes since but I've love to see bloatware products trying to be run/delivered/terminal'd across the Net. You better either have a big pipe or a direct feed [and a kecuva lot of trust from your provider]. Partners come and go - it will be interesting to see who's left standing when the smoke clears.
* can't afford it
* don't trust it
* won't buy into it until it's tried and true
We'll see this time next year how many inroads have been made. I think outsourcing in general of some applications makes since but I've love to see bloatware products trying to be run/delivered/terminal'd across the Net. You better either have a big pipe or a direct feed [and a kecuva lot of trust from your provider]. Partners come and go - it will be interesting to see who's left standing when the smoke clears.
comment on demo 2000 report: Well as Mark Twain once said (in reference to a newspaper article that was basically an obituary): "The rumors of my death are premature".
Well I have been in the IT field for over 30 years. It is interesting how thehistory repeats itself. You think the client server movement was new. Well in the 1970's I remember the discussion of distributed computing. For those of you too young to remember, distributed computing talked about putting processing power away from the glass house (central computer center) back to the places where it was used. This was enabled by the "mini" computer. Now the pendulum is swinging back to centralized computing (read the web). You think ASP's are new, well the same principle wasapplied (but later died) in the concept of the "service bureau". Then there was Ed Yourdon's book in the early 1990's about the death of the programmer. Just before the current IT shortage made itself known. Microsoft would have liked to declare UNIX dead but it hasn't died. It has morphed into LINUX.
Well I do not believe the IT profession will be killed by this new morphing of the old concept of "service bureau" into the new Web ASP. I just believe that it will lead to a change in the IT profession.
It was a newspaper pundit that proclaimed Mark Twain dead before his time. So I again remind you of Mark Twain's comment.
Well I have been in the IT field for over 30 years. It is interesting how thehistory repeats itself. You think the client server movement was new. Well in the 1970's I remember the discussion of distributed computing. For those of you too young to remember, distributed computing talked about putting processing power away from the glass house (central computer center) back to the places where it was used. This was enabled by the "mini" computer. Now the pendulum is swinging back to centralized computing (read the web). You think ASP's are new, well the same principle wasapplied (but later died) in the concept of the "service bureau". Then there was Ed Yourdon's book in the early 1990's about the death of the programmer. Just before the current IT shortage made itself known. Microsoft would have liked to declare UNIX dead but it hasn't died. It has morphed into LINUX.
Well I do not believe the IT profession will be killed by this new morphing of the old concept of "service bureau" into the new Web ASP. I just believe that it will lead to a change in the IT profession.
It was a newspaper pundit that proclaimed Mark Twain dead before his time. So I again remind you of Mark Twain's comment.
The discussion shows that "software dead?" is not true. It's just the ways to develop & sell will change. We are heading to a centralization of information and business processes based on the multi-tier, component based, thin-client architectures. Centralization, as history shows has it own merits and demerits. What we developers should analyze right now is how to create a balance of providing features and a personal experience to our users. You can provide an entire office suite through a web based ASP because the user interaction follows set patterns. It is useful (read profitable) in this case. But what about providing applications where the user is not ready to accept developer-defined methods to interact with the application? We should aim for a centralized storehouse approach, from where you can take what you want (ofcourse, after paying for it someway!) work with it at your convenience and will. I would visit a site repeatedly, if it allows me to edit my documents as if I was doing it locally without having to install any part of the software on my machine and transferring confidential info over the net. How this differs from the current ASP model is that it is not a client-server model, as in most of the present ASPs. I picture it as a component based model where I get a copy of the component (a set of components) to perform a task and I can define their life time, after which they are removed safely without damaging my data. This eliminates most part of the major obstacles like bandwidth and security apart from giving freedom to choose from various vendors, mobility, personal experience etc. This requires us to work on a "disintegrate into components and provide users with freedom and tools to integrate them according to their requirements" principle. I think now we have the idea how much work needs to be done before saying?."software dead".
Software is dead?: Until there is sufficient bandwidth to carry the increased traffic on the web, I don't think that the majority of companies that might use the ASP's will do so. Also, the security issues will slow the adoption of internet based applications until they have been properly addressed. And these new "upstart" companies won't be operating without IT personnel, will they? I believe it will be some time before the ASP concept really takes hold.
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