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        <title><![CDATA[RE: Experience vs. degree debate to heat up in the future]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[I'm a C level IT executive with 10+ years experience. I'm also a grade 9 drop out.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[michaelcrawford]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 05:45:59 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Degree vs Experience]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[hiI am desperate fo help iam 24 years old and went back to collge 2 years ago because i wanted more qulifications. Iam doing a foundation degree and included is the (CCNA) but iam coming to the end of the course and have the choice to try and get a job and gain experience or go on to do a full degree. I am not sure which is better path and dont want to repeat the same mistake of leaving to soon...So can people please give me recommandtions of what is best? ]]></description>
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        <pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 05:40:14 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[It's parental ...]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[The irony for me is the fact that this friend that I helped get into the field will be better positioned for future IT jobs than I will, even though I have far more experience. It's kinda like what you want for your children.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[TonytheTiger]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 12:56:24 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Internships]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Northrop Grumman offers indepth internship programs for a wide range of technical careers including aerospace engineering careers.  http://careers.northropgrumman.com/ExternalHorizonsWeb/college/intern_inte.html]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[lisejohnsons@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 12:29:22 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Inkling: They are as afraid of us as we are of them]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Mexico doesn't want an open border.  They want us to allow their people in without any strings.  They don't want to give us the same.  There is a small minority of people from the US that retire in Mexico for several reasons; cost of living being one.  That was my point.  If we sat down and agreed on titt-for-tat, then at least the compromise might be liveable by both countries.  Right now the border IS open, not 100%, but still very open.  I may be wrong but I don't beleive either the republican or democrat parties wants to close it, or the party leaders.  Therefore I don't think it will be closed.  I could be wrong.I can see the flow of money.  Every where you go there are the &quot;Check Cashing/Money Wiring&quot; places and they are Busy!  In my neighborhood Spanish is more common than English.  I am trying to pick it up but my language skills are weak.Just my opinion.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[LocoLobo]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 10:56:20 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[It's only a simple issue...]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[for the simple-minded.LocoLobo:The problem with your solution is that the Mexican government WANTS it's citizens (the ones that want a better life anyway) to cross the border illegally.Why would they want this?Mexico has, as I have previously stated, has all the natural resources a country could want to be successful.It has oil.  It has crops.  It has labor.  It has tourism...etc., etc.However, those in power in Mexico prefer to keep the money and power for themselves.So, we have a corrupt government that doesn't want it's citizens demanding better of it.  What would you do in their shoes?Why, you would encourage them to cross the border to the north to better themselves.  One of the ways you might do this is to publish and distribute comics teaching your citizens how to safely cross the northern border (illegally).Why would you do this you ask?Well, what better way to get rid of the people that might possibly challenge your methods of running the country because they want a better life for themselves and their families?Not only do you get rid of them...but once they do cross and start earning money...they send that money back to Mexico because that is where their families are.BAM!  $15,000,000,000.00 - $20,000,000,000.00 (that's fifteen to twenty BILLION dollars) a year being sent back to Mexico thanks to illegal immigrants.That's a pretty damn sweet deal for Mexico if you ask me (or anyone else with half a brain).I could go on and on Loco...but I'll stop now before I start ranting again.Tony, I edited this to delete the longer post in reply to your idiocy.Either put forth some logical argument that our borders should be completely open or crawl back into the corner like the coward that you are.You might think sitting back and taking pot-shots is clever, but you are only showing your true colors.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Inkling]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 17:39:54 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[It's a simple issue.]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[&quot;I got mine (great place to live and work, opportunity, etc.)... screw you!&quot;&quot;King of the hill&quot; is a child's game.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[TonytheTiger]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 04:01:17 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Closed vs Open Borders]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[I think the U.S. and Mexico should get together and agree on what the punishment should be for illegal entry into our respective countries.  What ever happens to a U.S. citizen in Mexico should be the same punishment to a citizen of Mexico in the U.S.  Whether it be prison, fines or nada.  Open borders work both ways.Just my 2 cents.]]></description>
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        <pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 13:49:32 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[If that's the case then I guess all I have to add is...]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[to reiterate:You have a narrow and simplistic view on this matter.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Inkling]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 13:06:53 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[The last sentence says it all (eom)]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[TonytheTiger]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 11:00:04 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Consider the context !]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[The context is his communication and my background.The context of his communication, a first on this topic is wholly encapsulated in the initial missive.Degree demonstrates commitment.That's bollocksAny conclusions based of this fallacy are equally bollocks.As for the you guys, well I might have cruelly explicity pigeon holed him as an academic snob, but the statement he made is a very good indicator of at the very least an unconscious prediliction in that regard.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Tony Hopkinson]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 09:31:45 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Call it an educated guess.]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Still, that wasn't the meaningful part of my rant.My wife started talking about illegal immigrants this weekend.Normally, I beg her not to get started on the subject because I tend to get grumpy.This time...I decided to take the side of illegal immigrants.  Just for giggles.I mean, after all, the Statue of Liberty DOES say...&quot;Give me your tired, your poor...&quot;This is actually how I started my end of the discussion.  My wife agreed that we are essentially a country of immigrants and that no person, whom was willing to go through the legal process, should be denied.Tell you what, I will spare you the entire discussion.Here's what it boils down to:Most of the illegal immigrants aren't here to &quot;live the American Dream&quot;.  They aren't here to become part of something great.  They aren't here to better this country by bettering themselves.  They don't give a rat's ass about the future of this country.Like it or not, the simple truth of the matter is, they are here to rape the system and reap the benefits of hundreds of years of hard working Americans.$15,000,000,000.00 - $20,000,000,000.00 (that's fifteen to twenty BILLION dollars) is sent to Mexico from illegal immigrant laborers in the United States each year.  Even Mr. Gate$ would consider that real money.  This amounts to Mexico's second largest source of import income every year.  You don't see a problem with that?Again, in the interest of avoiding going too far off track (too late?)...I digress.So...I argued that there certainly WERE Mexican/Central/South American immigrants that were here for the right reasons.My wife quickly agreed with me.  She also pointed out (and this bit ended the conversation...with me unable to defend illegal immigrants), that we already have a way for people such as I mentioned to become LEGAL citizens of the United States of America.Anyone coming here illegally (with rare exceptions) is a parasite.  If they want to &quot;live the American Dream&quot;, they can get in f-ing line.&quot;Closed borders...designed by and for people who are afraid to compete in a truly free market.&quot;This is one of the narrowest, most simplistic, and downright erroneous statements I have ever seen.I could give multiple reasons &quot;closed borders&quot; are just plain damn common sense...but it's late and I'm sure my ranting is becoming illegible with each passing moment...therefore, I will leave you with this one:-  National Security.  Each and every day that goes by that American men and women fight (and die) for our freedom overseas...and G.W. Bush pushes for open borders and amnesty...is a slap in the face for servicemen/women.  The &quot;War on Terror&quot; is a farce until they secure the border.In closing...Mexico has all the natural resources you could want as a country.  What they lack is the moral fortitude to change the leadership for the betterment of the average citizen.  We (U.S.) did it some few hundred years ago.  If Mexicans aren't willing to do for themselves...screw em!]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Inkling]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 21:12:37 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Asking for and getting]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[are two very different things. Of course they want the most for the least. Don't we all?]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[TonytheTiger]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 20:31:08 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[I'd like to see that statistic on half]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[on welfare. I suspect it's really about the same percentage as native-borns. About the same percentage are criminals (crimes other than the illlegal alien thing) too. People are about the same everywhere. How many illegal immigrants were here when unemployment was 8 or 9%?As I said, their presence doesn't create problems, it exposes them ... Illegals willing to work for $15 a day? Proves that minimum wage is too high... Illegals using up 25% of California's social services budget? Who's using the other 75%? Name a problem allegedly caused by illegals, I'll tell you the REAL problem.Closed borders are merely a thinly veiled form of protectionism, designed by and for people who are afraid to compete in a truly free market. The same can be said for minimum wage, unions, and all the other crap that penalizes hard working people for being successful. It's just funny that the same people who saw a problem with other countries' protectionist practices a generation or so ago don't see a problem when our country does it.BTW, Ohio recently increased its minimum wage to $6.85 (what's worse, they tied future increases to the cost of living... talk about a self-feeding nightmare!). ALmost immediately, unemployment went up and prices went up. Dumbasses... Somebody ought to wire tasers to the voting booth handles and give me the trigger Do you realize what tomatoes would cost if picked at union rates? Imagine all the poor people who would die of malnutrition because they couldn't afford $10 a pound for vegetables. Of course, the government could just give them 5 times the amount of food stamps (which, of course, would require at least doubling the income tax rates).]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[TonytheTiger]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 20:29:22 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Not really]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[&quot;Deep subject this communication stuff in it?&quot;No. Not really. Read the question (post) carefully and slowly and consider the context. Don't insert your own assumptions.The sort of advice any educator would give someone answering any exam or assignment question.Assuming Mike was an academic (and basing your response on that assumption) when it was very clear he wasn't is not a deep mistake, it's a basic and shallow one.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[GoodOh]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 19:20:55 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Minor quibble...]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[For most schools that place that much emphasis on athletics, those programs pay for themselves and then some.  What money for sports programs don't come from sports revenue is usually offset by contributions.I seriously doubt that any successful college/university spends tuition revenue on sports programs.That aside, if I were a soon-to-be high school grad, knowing what I know now, I would be looking at colleges in the UK as they are much cheaper and (most times) just as respectable as the major colleges in the U.S.Not to mention the fun it would be as an 18-year-old living in a different country.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Inkling]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 14:45:29 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Hands on...]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Sounds like fun that!!  Where do I sign up?  And are these &quot;hands-on&quot; professors (a) female and (b) attractive?!]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Inkling]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 14:36:18 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Tony...]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[While I agree that the correlation between illegal immigrants and the job market is a bit of a stretch in the IT world, the basic premise that liberals suck is an accurate one. After all, whom do you think helped those unions get established in the first place?Additionally (at the risk of ranting a bit), the current statistics on labor are:Illegal immigrants make up ~5% of the work force.Unemployment = ~5%.Kill welfare, half the illegals will remove themselves from the country and the welfare recipients sitting on their butts mass-procreating will be forced to get off the afore-mentioned posteriors and pick fruit, wash toilets, do lawn work, .Again, the liberals are the problem with their entitlement programs, their calls for amnesty (by the way, no self-respecting conservative considers G.W. one so don't even go there) and their undying support for the unions.How does this tie in to jobs in the IT world?  It doesn't.  Just felt like ranting! =)]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Inkling]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 14:31:34 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Globalization, outsourcing, and cheap labor]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Those are the reasons why it's difficult to find work these days because corporations are no longer willing to shell out big bucks for skilled IT pros when they would rather get cheap overseas labor, even if it isn't the best they can get for their money.  This is MBA mentality at its worst, and is very prevalent among the executives whose businesses depends on IT to function.  My rule is simple: &quot;Don't stiff or shortchange IT when your business depends on IT to function and bring in business and revenue&quot;.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Big Ole Jack]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 13:21:54 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[I went to a trade school...]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[that is known for producing better programmers than most colleges.The washout rate was 80%In order to PASS, you needed to maintain a test and project average in excess of 85%....but that linebacker is still more qualified than me.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Locrian_Lyric]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 12:48:20 -0700</pubDate>
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