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Nick, you're right, I do believe in accepting people
for themselves, not just as an example of some sort of stereotype - at least until such time as they prove they're only a stereotype with as much working intelligence as road kill. Jesus taught choice and acceptance of others - you can't blame him for what others have done since.

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Firstly, in a capitalist society, Jesus would be paid for his teachings and healings, and he'd use that to buy accommodation, food, drink, clothes, etc just the same as everyone else - come to think of it, he did have some money and bought all those sorts of things - the scriptures tell us so.

Over the years, I've been in many positions of leadership in both work and sports, some I've given up as I moved to another area or field, some because of family considerations, and some (recently) due to health - so having other wouldn't bother me, nor would not having any more leadership positions. I haven't been, or tried to be, a major political leader, as I don't want the sort of troubles that got with such jobs.

It's clear you know nothing about true capitalism. In a truly capitalist society, everything is a matter of personal choice and individual decisions. It fully recognises that any effort, skill, or ability a person puts into something increases the worth and usefulness of that, and provides a method for the person to be rewarded for their work and effort. Sadly, we have no purely capitalist societies, and never have.

Greed is an aspect of human nature, not capitalism, even the socialist societies suffer from greed. If you want a list of the dangers of a socialist society, think of Chernobyl - a capitalist society wouldn't, and hasn't, taken the sort of short cuts the socialists took to get that plant operating and eventually caused the melt down. The people in charge were greedy and wanted resources and rewards for doing things with less and sooner. Capitalists want expensive things done properly, to stay in one piece and working, while socialist don't really care, as they're all replaceable.

In history, we've had several aristocracy / capitalist societies, feudal / capitalist societies, restricted democracy / capitalist societies and everyone has had a fair sprinkling of socialist input mixed in as well.

Some of the biggest complaints leveled at a capitalist society are variations created within the system to deal with certain socialist aspects of the society. Taxation, limited liability, restricted control - all these derive from socialist aspects of society being impressed on the capitalist society. In a true capitalist society, each person has full responsibility and liability for their own actions AT ALL TIMES, and they get growth rewards for doing good work, and losses for bad work. As a general rule, the rewards are evaluated in money, but they work just as well in a barter economy society as well.

No society today is totally a capitalist society or a total socialist society, they have a mix and tend to be called by which side has the higher degree of control in the overall scheme of that society.
Posted by Deadly Ernest
1st Dec 2007

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