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        <pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 22:30:43 -0800</pubDate>
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        <pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 11:02:55 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Combination: Cubes, Openspace, and Offices]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[At my company, we have a combination of offices, traditional cubes, low-walled cubes, and open space collaboration areas with desks. Each area is an attempt to harmonize with the work styles of the teams involved. Support is in low cubes to facilitate collaboration and communication. Tech writers and most IT folks are in high-wall cubes. Architects and people with direct reports get offices for reasons of confidentiality or to minimize distractions. The programmers and QA moved to an open desk floorplan when we were using XP and have stuck with it even though we are not an XP shop anymore. It works for them.We are lucky to have this flexiblity in our work areas. It's not perfect for everyone, but it's a pretty good environment.]]></description>
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        <pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2007 13:45:06 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Gotta agree....]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Heh,I have a cousin in Germany who got 2 months of paid vacation, along with the rest of their unit.They met all of their goals by October, everyone got November and December off.Funny thing, they didn't have a slacking problem......]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Locrian_Lyric]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 09:06:40 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Having had both...]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Having an office is great for personal space (I like to have hard copies of documents I'm working on pinned up, and make notes on them).  Privacy, I don't mind being in a room with everyone, but  I don't like sitting with my back to subordinates, or anyone, which is unavoidable in a cube.Team discussions become public, another down side.  Some conversations are meant to be internal.Also, I think everyone should have a work space that makes them feel like working.  Cubes are depressing, fluorescent lighting is flaky, and the overall feeling of our cube environment is gloomy and dismal.  I'd prefer a shared area with my team... with our own bulletin board.. some form of daylight, and individual desks.On the positive side, proximity is good for team building and communication...and thats about the only good thing I can think of.  ]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[adamblevins@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 08:48:12 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[nature]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[I'm only 3 floors up..and its a nice enough area..so it doens't bother me too bad..the highlight of my day is going home though. the walk i take from my train to my house is along a river!!! Which has a good few trees and loads of wildlife. Its so relaxing walking along there for 10 mins watching the ducks and swans..it makes me forget some of the days stress. ANd then i get home to the cats ]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Shellbot]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 06:29:03 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[CONT'D]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[...my random destination above included a &quot;post&quot; operation somehow......anyway, the cake was when I came down in the morning to find a new icon on the desktop named &quot;null.&quot; That was amazing enough, but out of well over a thousand icons to &quot;choose&quot; from, the one she ended up with was the icon for a Linux app called &quot;kugar...&quot; An orange circle with a black cat paw print in the middle of it.Imagine my surprise! How she made an icon for &quot;null&quot; is beyond me, I can't duplicate it. But that icon... this cat must be a genius.She did build her own &quot;arcade,&quot; a large separation in the 150+ year old floor boards here where she got some (stolen) marbles stuck in the channel. They roll up and down the crack but she can't get them out. She plays with it constantly:http://catworld.dyndns.org/pics/arcade.jpgHere's my calico, deceased. I saw her leap 6 feet vertically and come down with a bird off the feeder once, the consummate killer. I really miss her:http://catworld.dyndns.org/pics/kiki.jpgIt is a great office, the &quot;politics&quot; is all raw, basal animal instinct! Easier to deal with when you know ego isn't at play!Enjoy them chickadees. It is telling what happens in the soul when other people are set aside for a bit...Hope all you high-rise dwellers get the chance to venture out doors at least once in the day. Do you??cat]]></description>
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        <pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2007 06:42:09 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Calico!]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Lucky you. I had the greatest cat in the world, until she got hit by a car at the young age of 9. Smartest cat I've ever met, and I've known many.My wife has worked for vet clinics for 20 years. We've taken in all manner of rejects and defects. (have 9 cats-2 dogs atm, all &quot;rescues&quot;)Anyway, I have a backup computer running all the time, and that holy terror deaf white cat performs some magic with it. I could unplug the keyboard, but I find the random mayhem rather comical.She renamed the &quot;system&quot; desktop icon once to 256 random characters.She has opened as many as 171 (keeping count) &quot;search&quot; dialogs.She's pulled up dialogs I've never seen before, once with a prompt &quot;are you sure you want to move &quot;trash&quot; to &quot;/bdverp1DDDDddddglJR42222]]></description>
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        <pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2007 06:30:05 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[I find that the collaboration]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Of cats is far superior to the collaboration of many humans.As a cube dweller in a place with some nice scenery, I find that taking a cup of sunflower seed out back and watching chickadees and nuthatches make fools of themselves over it nearly as relaxing as trying to keep my calico from sending email to everyone in my address book.I would give much to work in your office!]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Tig2]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2007 14:42:51 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Because if you slack off, and look like it, more work will be delivered.]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[But if you look busy, the same work will be given to somebody else who looks ready for more work. Which brings us back to the point above about managers who reward efficiency vs. managers who are so stupid they merely look for a &quot;heads down&quot; posture.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Absolutely]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2007 09:51:53 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[What collaboration?]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[In a major corporation where I worked, many of us were removed from our offices and tossed into cubicles.  In the very expensive remodeling, they also added a variety of conference rooms for &quot;collaboration&quot;.  This move had nothing to do with teamwork, the company was very specific that it was to make sure that we were seated according to our positions and value to company.  For the most part, the higher up you were, the bigger your cube.  If you were a Regional Manager with no support staff in-house (like me), you got a cube the size of a piece of lego.The incredible part of all of this was that my job involved working with confidential information about new products and launches. Our sales staff would have loved to get in on some of this and I was surrounded by them.  This meant that everytime I had to take a call, I had to use my wireless phone to an enclosed area or take up a huge conference room where I could shut the door.  Since everyone else was lining up for these rooms it wasn't easy to get them, and many times I took scheduled calls at home, in restaurants, or any place I knew would be secure from prying ears.  I also had to contend with the &quot;collaborative efforts&quot; of the sales staff - much of which involved loud profanity.  I spoke to media contacts - that always went over well.  Of course, when I complained to their bosses, they had no idea what I was talking about.  They were in offices at the other end of the floor.My suggestion - if you do cubicles, take a good hard look at the positions you put in them. Not everyone can be productive in a cubicle.  I was more productive at home - thank God I had an understanding boss who worked in another state!]]></description>
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        <pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2007 06:36:35 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[My company...downsized..]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Well my company (a large global publishing corp) used to have 95% private offices throughout its headquarters.  Then, the campus was sold off to a management company, and we went from owning a 40-acre campus to leasing less than half of the original building we were in.  So what happens when you try to squeeze all those employees into 1/3 of the space? You get a large amount of job cuts and ... yep .. CUBICLES!! So all these people who have had offices for years went to cubes.  Morale: wayyyy down.  And now...our accounting dept. just got half-size cubes from their original full-size cubes because they're too CHEAP to find more space!    Ridiculous!  Of course...our President still has her own office with a private bathroom...go figure.]]></description>
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        <pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 22:13:22 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Yep]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[It's amazing.  Wonder around with a clipboard and make check marks and everyone thinks your busy!  ]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[LocoLobo]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 16:37:07 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[feet ... inches ?]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[He hasn't yet provided the information that he said would be posted today.  I think you've made him nervous.  Or maybe he's explaining the English measurement system to maecuff?http://techrepublic.com.com/5208-6230-0.html?forumID=102&amp;threadID=236289&amp;messageID=2315705]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Absolutely]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 13:12:18 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Facilities and HR]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[We do our work. The choices made in the service of economy just make that harder. I think the point of most of this conversation is that these choices end up as false economy because they come with a major productivity hit.Note that some of the top companies in the world pay more for facilities and salaries than anyone else and they make more money. Why might that be?Going with &quot;industry standard&quot; salaries and facilities is just another way of saying: &quot;being average.&quot; Being average is not the way to be a market leader. If you want to treat people as interchangeable drones who can work in any environment, you will get the type of quality of work and quantity of productivity you deserve.And yes, I have worked every where from pure open plan to private office and I can tell you that software development is easier with a private office.]]></description>
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        <pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 12:56:27 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Yer right!]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[This is the land of &quot;capitalism for the poor and socialism for the rich&quot;. The Prez has to look out for his peeps.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[wmlundine]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 12:27:20 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[inmates?]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[They should never be working in the privarte sector, period!Read yer science fiction; give the bastards at the top 10-20 years and they'll figure out a way to make &quot;prisoners&quot; out of ALL OF US!capice?!Why do you think in the last 10 years America has become a jailer of it's own to the degree we exceed ALL OTHER NATIONS OF THE WORLD COMBINED! (no justifiable reason for this except PROFIT $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$)Sorry for yelling, but this ain't &quot;the land of the free,&quot; and any who disagree are free to open debate with me in private.I warn you, you will loose any argument in defense of &quot;government.&quot;cat]]></description>
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        <pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 06:32:24 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[office buddies]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Yes, these two are especially prone to stroll over when I sit down at the computer, especially the deaf white one. (we call her &quot;TinyMight,&quot; she has rearranged the entire house single handedly.. pawedly?Anyway, if I went back to a big office environment I'd insist on an office above the 5th or 6th floor... so I could jump out of it.God bless y'all stuck in cubicleland.But the claws in my back don't have an agenda in 'em.cat]]></description>
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        <pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 06:20:12 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[So many managers miss what you know...]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Treat people right, and they treat you right.As you've noted there are exceptions, and the way to handle those exceptions are exactly as you've handled them.I think the 'punish everybody' approach springs from managers who are lazy and don't want to handle the individual, as you did.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Locrian_Lyric]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 06:12:08 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[You get used  to it and work within it]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[I don't find any real distraction problem, just turn my ears off, no different to dealing with the missus. Possibly I would get more done without the distraction, but more done of what?One overheard conversation, or quick meeting round the desk can save days of wasted effort.Open plan is more like working round the watercooler, non work items might come up, but work items definitely do.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Tony Hopkinson]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 06:09:33 -0700</pubDate>
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