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10 things you can do to get a promotion

I've also found that presentation is important. If your boss wears a suit, and you always come to work in jeans, you are less likely to be considered as able to work at a higher level. Professional people dress professionally, and get noticed more.

Sad but true... we are an image based society. Not only do you have to be good at what you do, but you have to look the part as well.

I ran into this even in startup life, the jeans route got me nowhere.

Dress for the job you want, not for the job you have.

This is great advice but I wonder how my boss would feel about me comming into work in tights since I really want to be a trapeze artist.

You probably would be suggested to leave the company. This would be a great opportunity to take a chance on circus business.

Everybody want promotion but not is promotable thanks for your eyes opening article

how do you not shine if it's all you know & since everybody else has thier own responsibilities how do you start to teach other ppl your job so that you aren't irreplaceable?

I agree with all the points of this article. Even as a Federal Employee, if you can create ways to streamline processes and/or save money, it will get you noticed. I've heard people say Navy stands for Never Again Volunteer Yourself, but that is one sure way to get noticed, especially if it's a high level project. Volunteering to do some extra work, especially when needed, pays big dividends in the long run.

I appreciate the comment right at the end regarding being a team player, however, without the right people being mentored, this is not enough.

Over the last 18 years, I've trained up and placed people in my teams in positions where they can develop new skills and stand out from the crowd and guess what! They have all left for better positions and significantly higher pay, some locally and some overseas. While this has given me much satisfaction, I am still left holding the fort. The hiring and personnel development plans of the organisation leave much to be desired. Outsourcing is not the ansr to everything.

With great skill and knowledge comes the burden of responsibility. This tends to keep people stuck in the same job for many years (18 years and counting for me). The one saving grace is that every time I've motioned to leave, someone has found out early and I've found myself with a pay rise anyway.

So I'm stuck with a few problems:
- too much knowledge about systems and business domain processes to easily pass on ( generally need a full year to do this effectively);
- a lack of people to be mentored (as I seem to have little influence on the way the team is run with my current team leader);
too much loyalty to the organisation (guilt about leaving);
and a sizeable pay packet that makes changing jobs a financial problem for myself and my family.

Promotions within an organisation are simply not possible if the organisation ends up blocking your attempts at greater responsibility by paying you more to stay where you are and ignores nepotism to be rife further up the management chain!

thank you very very very much
i need more

yEAH - EXACTLY - ONCE THEY KNOW YOU CAN PERFORM AND IMP[ROVE ON THIER DINO-PROCESS

Yes i agree

On a whim, I once told one of the boss's spies that I had received an offer from another organization for a better position and $10 per hour more. I told her to keep it in strictest confidence.

The next day, the boss told me he knew about my offer from a friend at the other organization and would match it. And so I got a better position and more money.

yes i also agree..