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        <title><![CDATA[Best resume for Software Engineer]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[These are fantastic resume writing tips for the software engineer. According to me the job seeker have to learn marketing the self skills . The recruiter always finding the employee which is perfectly match to the requirement for particular post. So you have to make them impress that &quot; I am perfect for this position&quot;. The best written resume give you the various interview calls. For writing the resume best like to share  www.aroj.com]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[aliyadesouza]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2012 04:29:00 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[RE: Resumes for programmers]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Huh, I just happened on this, although I bet it's still pretty valid in mid-2010.  I have a hard time with the emphasis on applicants knowing the flavor-of-the-month language and technology (C#, .NET) over non-proprietary tech that has provably more staying power (C, C++, PHP, Perl).  The latter is going to be more useful for a longer time; the former can be learned when it's needed, and ignored when it's needed no longer.  Would you have hired someone in 2000 because they knew MFC inside and out?  Where would that person be now, if they didn't have the generalized skill needed to be able to adapt when Microsoft abandoned that platform?  I discuss this in more detail on my blog (apchamberlain.blogspot.com).]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[AlexPC]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Mon, 05 Jul 2010 18:17:11 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[That is a tough one]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[I used to work for a major pharmaceutical company. Not only did they perform animal testing, but they did it in the facility that I was working at. The person who interviewed me had the courtesy to inform me of this up front during the interview, so that if my beleifs conflicted with animal testing, I could take it under consideration if offered a job.However, as your example make clear, there are some deal breakers that the interviewer won't tell you about, either because they are not thinking about it, or because they din't realize that it could be a deal breaker.That being said, you still do not need to step outside of the EEO boundaries. The way to approach this is to either simply mention &quot;personal beleifs&quot;, or to ask directly (or indirectly) about the deal breakers without saying why. The problem is that 95% of people feel some inane urge to explain the irrelevant. People have this unexplainable desire to explain in great depth what can just be left at &quot;personal beleifs&quot;. Like, &quot;I am a strict Muslim and I will not work for a pork processing plant&quot; is way too much detail. Being Muslim does not need to come up. Just say, &quot;personal beleifs&quot;, and the interviewer still does not know your religion, and the point is just as clear.J.Ja]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Justin James]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2007 06:49:09 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[As for EEO]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Sometimes it is necessary to provide information that may be restricted by EEO.  For example: my religious beliefs may prevent me from performing certain types of work like aiding a gambling establishment.  If the potential employer mainly contracts to write code for casinos then I think it would fair to him/her to know of the potential conflict of interest.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[alaniane@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2007 10:13:16 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Will check it..]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Ok..I'll check it out   ]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[RayJeff]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 07:29:48 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[I replied in the other thread]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[I put up a response in the other thread. J.Ja]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Justin James]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 19:09:16 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[ADIVCE/ HELP!!Resumes for programmers]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[This comment is a reposting of a post I made on a similar discussion topic. I came upon this discussion after I posted to the other topic. /****************************************************\I'm glad I read this. My resume is basically the resume of someone who is a PC tech supporter. The interesting part is that at a former job I was working where I did tech support for almost 2+ years last year, for those 2+ years, I was brought into an ongoing project in the division I worked in. It was a 5 year project and when I as hired, it was the beginning of year 3. My area of work on the project was application development (database and user-interface development). After I left that job, I basically went back into tech support, but in a data center environment. I enjoyed the application development work and I want to go more into that area.I've had some &quot;difficulty&quot; I think in applying for programming jobs. I've applied for 8 programming jobs since June 2006. Out of the 8, I've had callbacks on at least 3, but I haven't had any interviews. One was for an entry-level programming training program with Blue Cross Blue Shield. Right now, I'm waiting to hear back if I will be able to take the test to get in the program. The problem is that I have practical experience on one had vs competing with college graduates. Another job was through an agency for an Access developer. I got a callback after they received my resume, I got a confirmation and nothing else since...this was September of this year. That's basically been what's been happening when applying for a programmer or a programmer analyst position.After reading the post, I don't know how I can modify my resume to make it more noticeable. Should I have a section just specific to what I did in that project I worked on? Because I have to admit, when it comes to describing exactly what I did as far as programming, I didn't go into detail because of the many tech support roles I filled. So, how does a person who has only had one job doing programming make their resume stand out????]]></description>
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        <pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 03:24:15 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Thanks!]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[I know what you mean about South Carolina, it is a very small tech community here. They are seem less active on a &quot;per programmer&quot; basis than they were in NJ. Another thing that I have noticed here is the type of work. Living next to Columbia, it seems like many of my colleagues are working in COBOL on AS/400 systems; it is fairly hard to relate with them except at the level of the development process itself. And few shops here are doing any kind of interesting projects.J.Ja]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Justin James]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 05:32:36 -0700</pubDate>
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        <pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 18:25:11 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Great Advice]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Great advice Justin, and it's also nice to see someone from the tech community in South Carolina (I'm in Charleston).]]></description>
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        <pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 17:59:39 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Beleive it or not, I agree with you in principle]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[While I agree with where you are coming from on principle, it really does make a difference. Do I *demand* that employees train themselves on their own dime? Of course not. Do I only hire those that do? No, it certainly is not a job *requirement*. But it does make someone stand out.I would love a world where employers made those kinds of investments in their employees. I really would. Sadly, that does not fly in most companies. You'll be the laughingstock of the place for bringing it up, they'll ask if you want to unionize the shop or bring back pension plans or pay for health insurance for retired workers too, and other things to make you look dumb.More to the point, there is no training out there that teaches what I need! Sure, I can send someone to some &quot;boot camp&quot; nonsense to spend 3 weeks learning the syntax of a language, and it will cost $20,000. But where are they going to learn truly advanced stuff, like multithreading, performance optimizations, closures, and so on? Unless I ship them to MIT for 2 - 6 years to get a Masters in CS, they are only going to learn it through experience. And since most employers have their people working on fairly Mickey Mouse applications, that means that most of the people with hands-on experience in the skills I look for did it on their own time.It is a shame. It really is. But the &quot;bean counter&quot; perspective is, &quot;why should I invest tens of thousands of dollars in this person, and try to retain them for the 5 - 10 years that it takes to train them from 'entry level' to 'mid-level' or from 'mid-level' to 'expert', when IT people leave after 2 years?&quot; The joke is, of course, that this kind of environment keeps IT people around for a lot longer than 2 years. My company won't even pay for smoking cessation programs; obviously, investing in the long-term future of employees is not on the agenda.At the end of the day, I agree with you. But the business reality that I (and every other person hiring right now in IT, with a few rare exceptions) operate within prevents us from doing this. As a result, I look for the people who do the learning on their own. I would love to be part of this visionary team like Joel Spolky has over at Fog Creek, but those companies are so insanely rare in this era of short term stock price gains trumping long term viability. J.Ja]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Justin James]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 21:36:55 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[About the same]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[I think VB.Net has more jobs out there, and a huge install base. C# programmers are a bit rarer and get paid a bit better (I suspect), but there is less opportunity. Once you learn one and get up to speed on the .Net Framework itself and the ASP.Net model, the other is fairly easy to learn. J.Ja]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Justin James]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 19:42:12 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Something for nothing]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[I'm a little disappointed at the desire to get something for nothing by so many development managers.  In the above reply, you make an expectation that an employee learn something on his time strictly to pad your business' bottom line.  Why should an employee have to do that?  Employers should be investing in the future of their employees, not forcing them to play catch-up (and burn-out) on their own time.I agree on the value of somebody who learns on their own time, but I want to learn what I'M interested, not what I need to know to get my daily job done.  I learn what I need to know for my job when my job pays me.  I learn what I want to know for me when I am on my own time.You call it a heck of a differentiating factor.  I call it a heck of a way to shaft your employees.tj]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[SoftwareMaven]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 12:37:52 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[vb or c#?]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Yea, I've been feeling the squeeze as being outdated goes.  ASP classic is almost never posted around here.  I'm going after ASP.net right now but I'm still torn as to which direction: C# or VB?  I'd like to stay relevant as well as paid more in the future so which way to go.And it just occurred to me that I'm kicking a hornet's nest here.  I don't want to start a war or anything.  I haven't been doing this for a really long time yet but I've noticed how easy it is to stir up trouble with a question like this.  Sorry...just trying to make a decision.  Thanks again!]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[john@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 05:44:26 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Sounds a touch outdated]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Except for the LAMP work (and I beleive that LAMP work is getting increasingly harder to find), your skill set looks a bit outdated. I would recommend getting up to speed on VB.Net (or C#) and ASP.Net, or the J2EE world pronto! You can start with the &quot;Express&quot; editions of Visual Studio (for the .Net world) or Eclipse (for the Java world) for free. VB.Net will probably be the easiest for you, given your background, and you can't go wrong with it career-wise.J.Ja]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Justin James]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2007 21:14:33 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Not offended. :)]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[I'm not offended... you actually brought up a good point based on mis-read there. Things outside of programming are helpful too. After all, someone who spends 24 x 7 buried in a compiler probably will not be very useful when I need to put them on the phone with a customer. Plenty of non-technical hobbies also develop relevant work skills. And of course, anyone who can raise kids and do a good job of it probably knows how to handle frustration well, always a good thing in the shop!J.Ja]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Justin James]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2007 21:12:01 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Consider moving]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[EDIT: Never mind! Rochester is a city! I wrote this before I noticed your location!&quot; But it is helpful advice to others, so I am leaving it up...Unless you are near Syracuse or Buffalo, &quot;upstate NY&quot; means cows and apple trees (I've driven through there!). I hate to say it (it is a beautiful part of the world) but you might need to get a lot closer to a city. Software development requires a labor pool of educated people, so development shops sprout in or near cities, not in the country. I mean that in the &quot;population density&quot; way, not to imply that people in rural areas are not as smart or as educated as people in cities, of course.J.Ja]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Justin James]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2007 21:04:14 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Working hours]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[&quot;JJ mentions shutting your brain off when you get home - nope, but, we can't ignore the family either and somewhere in there is sleep. Decide how much you can give to each and accept the results.&quot;This is precisely the right approach. For me, as a young person whose career is still arcing up, I can and do put in the hours for work, spend time with family, and sacrifice the sleep. The gamble is that I can get to where I want to be career wise, before I get so old that I can't be going without a full 8 hours of sleep. J.Ja]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Justin James]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2007 21:01:14 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[no no...]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[...philosophical is exactly what I was looking for, thanks!!It is a relief to hear some of the things you say.  You sound like you understand the challenges I face.  Feeling &quot;bombarded&quot; is exactly it!  I'm making more money now as a web tech doing essentially mindless work (that is getting to me now however) than I did as an experienced teacher with a graduate degree.  I had no idea I could make this much.  If I can do better as an expert in &quot;something&quot; then I made the right decision.  I'm in upstate NY and I see similar demands for .Net although mostly for C# up here.  I wonder though...how long can that last?  I want to base my decision on a direction that will have some staying power as it were.  Thanks again!  Great board here!]]></description>
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        <pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2007 10:18:02 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[The path is yours to choose.]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[This is going to be way too philosophical, sorry.  The truth is you need to pick the path.  There is a demand for everything you listed as possible avenues.  I personally think the key is to pick one and learn it.  I see many postings for VB.Net and C#.  No one can tell you how much time to put in or what technology will fit your learning style or blend well with your creativeness.Thoughts:  subscribe to mailing lists for a given technology, is anyone in your company doing what you think you want to do - talk to them, spend some time in Borders reading, and finally - prioritize. Those of us with families sacrifice family time for career and we are constantly bombarded with guilt from every angle to spend more time with &quot;me&quot; (work and home).  JJ mentions shutting your brain off when you get home - nope, but, we can't ignore the family either and somewhere in there is sleep. Decide how much you can give to each and accept the results.  There are the 80 hour-a-week guys that family guys cannot compete with and there are the 40 hour-a-week guys we can crush with enthusiasm alone.  That typically make us neither exceptional nor mediocre, but, certainly less noticeable.  As far as &quot;feeding the family&quot; goes, an &quot;expert&quot; in almost any field will do well financially.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[mbarber@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2007 04:42:02 -0700</pubDate>
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