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        <title><![CDATA[Missed it by this much]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[I started university in 1980, and in my second year I worked with an old Honeywell 66 mainframe. On my summer job that year (1982)I worked with a PDP 6, old enough to qualify.So I'm younger than you....not a dinosaur yet.James]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[JamesRL]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 13:24:53 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Yes, I remember.  And the NBI, and Vydec, and IBM System 6]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Those were the days -- the old proprietary word processing systems.  All gone, all gone.]]></description>
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        <pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 13:08:28 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[BASIC on the Commodore 64]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[I wrote a budget/checkbook program in BASIC on my first computer, a Commodore 64, that I still use to this day (albeit on a laptop running WinXP).  It can do things that neither Quicken nor any other new-fangled personal finance application can do.]]></description>
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        <pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 11:09:11 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Don't forget the old coder's prank...]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Steal one card from the deck....  OOOOH!!!]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Locrian_Lyric]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 09:49:12 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Wang Computers]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[I started with the Wang 2200 and loved their Basic-2 language on the VP and the MVP.  They were real work horses.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[mschiller@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 09:18:10 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[It's fun to hit the pups with a rolled-up newspaper though ;)]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[remember, age and treachery always trumps youth and skill ]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Locrian_Lyric]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 05:53:51 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Still...]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Pascal was standard for engineers in my days. So it was compulsory. And my first programs were with punchcards, on an old IBM 1040 system which was the mainframe at my university. Alternately, when it malfunctioned you'd have to repunch the cards for another type of Fortran dialect on a French made computer which was the backup. What a mess... That was back in 1984. In 1987 we've got the first IBM compatibles, a no-name 8088 processor with BASIC interpreters and 2 x 8 inch disks. I translated from Fortran into BASIC a series of mechanical analysis subroutines and made my first honest programing money with that.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Kostaghus]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 05:11:49 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Young pups know it all]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[I didn't mention much about the unique role of the BBS in my post. That thought brought back memories of Fidonet and other message boards like ExecPC.  The concept is still around today - forums are still tremendously popular.  Thanks for the memories.I too have observed that strange phenomnon of the junior staff knowing it all.  I just use their energy on assignments that will teach them a few things while actually getting something done while I work on other projects.  I'm sure I was never like that Oh, and my wife and I just celebrated our 25th anniversary last year.  Congrats to you!]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[tmalonemcse@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 22:18:42 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Dinosaur sightings and old fossils like me...]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[I came along just after the PDP11 stage and worked on Mini's as my first job. I also headed up the Atari Club and sold my guitar for $500 to buy a 5MB Hard drive for it. I was a hub in the BBS chain with a Auto Answer 110BAUD modem! Those were the days! Now I am sitting at 25 years in the business and just had my 25th anniversary with my wife(yes I think I am the only still married old computer guy). Retirement is on my mind and I have expectations of getting out in 5 years and becoming the guy who rakes the beach in Mexico! It was a GREAT job 20 years ago...it is a great living now. Watching the young ones at work reminds me so much of when I was their age and no OLD ONE could tell me anything...after all what they knew was all about old stuff!]]></description>
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        <pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 20:17:00 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[How about the pre-mainframes ?]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[When I started in computers in 1974 we had an IBM 370/168 and a 360/165 that ran OS/MFT then OS/MVT, then JES2. Ah, the days of a sort that took 2 hours to run on 9 tape drives and the removable hard drive packs like the 3330 (200 Mb) with the powered doors and the stack of platters that weighed 60 lb. You could open the side of a cabinet on the 360 and actually see the bits flip in the core memory. I started just after they removed the 2321 'noodle picker'http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_IBM_disk_storage#IBM_3330Down the hall we had some unit record equipment and two very obsolete pre mainframe computers still in production. An IBM 7070 and a 1401 with less memory than my digital watch (with LEDs). The 1401 ended up in the Provincial museum if I ever want to go look at it.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_1401http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_7070]]></description>
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        <pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 17:02:07 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[It makes me think about getting into the]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[The funeral Business.   Ha, let's see them top that. -d]]></description>
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        <pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 13:38:32 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Actually the ones who worry me are the new Kids out to make their]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Millions this week and retire next weekI just love to watch them as they prance around showing off trying to impress others with their big bills. I suppose they are in other industries but I'm yet to meet those people. Why is it that Computer Business seem to think that =they can release something anything and expect that whatever it was to make them Million Airs Overnight and Billion Airs within a Month Tops? Col]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[HAL 9000]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 06:13:46 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[It happens sometimes...]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[oh yes, I know that feeling,...  yea, I got off the spaceship from another planet. (and I think I've just landed on the wrong one at that.)  I'd say, &quot;Welcome to the club&quot;, but I think you're also a  Charter Member.   -d]]></description>
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        <pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 13:18:14 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[OK one that I liked was]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Somewhere in a discussion I made mention of Vesa Video Cards. Well nothing wrong there except for the answer that I got from a 17 year old kid. Apparently I not only couldn't Speil but I was confusing them all because Vista was a M$ OS that was in Development. It wasn't a Video Card type under any definition of the term. PC only ever had 2 Slot Types on the M'Board for Daughter Cards these where ISA and PCI never had anything else and never developed anything else and never would. At the time PCI Express was only in very limited availability so I guess that didn't count as a M'Board Socket for a Daughter Card. Not a real problem there as this kid had never know anything different but I was amassed at how others supported him in his Ignorance. So I must have been wrong and Never Ever used any of these things. I can not help but wonder what would have happened if I had of made mention of the non IDE HDD's. Col]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[HAL 9000]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 07:01:01 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Nice recovery!]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[&quot;The exclusion was intentional. Women in Technology don't fade away. They become more sought after for their wisdom and experience. Old tech guys fade away because we suffer from CRS - can't remember stuff.&quot;That's one of the best recoveries I've ever seen!Pointed my 15 year old to the Vintage Computer section of eBay one day. He was amazed...even more so when I told him I have worked on many of those machines.....]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[flounder_pdx]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 14:58:23 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Fingerboning?]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[OK, I've got to ask.  Google didn't know. What is fingerboning?Wikipedia had the RTL, DTL &amp; CTL covered:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logic_familyNo, I don't think I had ever heard of them.  If I had, it was back in my college days and those things are long forgotten.Good for you on the Linux / Project Management education.  Keep it going.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[tim@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 09:55:47 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[RE: Old tech guys are slowly fading away]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Old guy? You're just a kid. I worked on the Burroughs B5500 mainframe in 1970. Have you ever heard if RTL, DTL, or even CTL logic? How about no test routines or diagnostics? Fingerboneing machine language into a mainframe to troubleshoot its logic? There was no such thing as a PC or a chip when I started. I took 31 tech classes, was IBM X-series certified and am now working on certifications in Linux and Project Management. The education never ends, even for a dinosaur.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[arcturus331@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 07:30:56 -0700</pubDate>
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        <description><![CDATA[uhhh....  darn 64K memory!  what was i going to say?]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[four-eyes_z]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 02:25:53 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[What about what Toshiba had way back]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[That if it had of taken off would have lead the Computer Industry for years to come. It was just so much better than anything else available at the time well Technically at least. Pity that it didn't support the more Common Programing of the day and didn't have any support to speak of. Perfect example of how not to promote something. Produce an excellent unit and then don't let it support any existing technology or have any support to repair it when it breaks.Wang on the other hand was around for years and had a very dedicated following.Col]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[HAL 9000]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 16:20:10 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[I belong to this club......]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[The first computer I owned, was a home brew 8008 Intel processor with 256 memory locations.  This system was updated twice, with an 8080 then a Z-80 processor.  I had to dispose of it. as the Army didn't want to ship it around to those places I was stationed at.I later was one of the first owners of an Apple II.  I later got a Z-80 card with CP/M, and a 80 column card, so I could use WordStar on it.Over the years, as people I knew bought PC's and grew frustrated/tired with them, I usually ended up with them.  Atari 400 &amp; 800, TI 44, PC Jr, TRS-80 and Color Computer, Comodore 64, Coleco Adam, etc...Those days were a lot of fun!]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[linux for me]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 11:11:21 -0700</pubDate>
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