If I go to a site that needs flash or an active x plug in I'm outta there in a flash And I never realized it till I got the foxit Reader, but what is with the size of adobe's acrobat (mine was over 120MB's compared to a faster Fox it reader with 3 MB or I guess 7MB unzipped) and Adobe phones home all the time too! since I got rid of adobe I can't believe how much faster every thing I do on my PC is I had always blamed it on dial-up I mean 10 times faster for things that have nothing to do with adobe Someone with more know how than me needs to do some research on this This could be opening a can of worms The first thing you need after every reformat is a reader so you don't notice the difference. But I smell a rat somewhere. Cat