While Jack may consider this process to be "not that difficult" it certainly has more hurdles to overcome than using an iPod with Windows or Mac OS X.
Will you be connecting your iPod to your Linux PC?
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if you have the right hardware, vinyl is as smooth as it gets. but then a high end turntable will set you back far more than an ipod.
vinyl is a better sound, but I just buy the cds and stick them into the drive to listen to them.
or, turn on the FM radio station.
or, turn on the FM radio station.
There are serious audio-heads who swear that high-quality vinyl is still the best consumer audio format available.
To the iPod issue ... I just like to be able to quickly create my own playlists. And I like to be able to purchase a song and add it to one of my playlists within about 30 seconds. That's the real value of the iPod for me.
To the iPod issue ... I just like to be able to quickly create my own playlists. And I like to be able to purchase a song and add it to one of my playlists within about 30 seconds. That's the real value of the iPod for me.
linux can work with many media players. well, maybe not the zune. but who wants a zune anyway... >^.^
no portable "mp3" players.
I'll listen to local radio station, that way I can also keep up on local news, traffic, weather while on the go.
I'll listen to local radio station, that way I can also keep up on local news, traffic, weather while on the go.
if you have local radio stations worth listening too. the only station around here worth listening to is a high school station that is run by high school kids 24/7. granted it is the oldest surviving high school radio station in the country...and it does play a good mix of music, but it's just not nearly as good as hand picking your own music.
For a sync process developed complete independent of the vendor's blessings; it's not so bad at all. If you want something more official, you'd have to ask Apple when they expect the iPod sync software for nonWindows/nonOSX platforms will be ready for release. I don't see them doing this any time soon or even the minimal step of releasing API interface specs so proper support can be built.
As for connecting my iPod to my Ubuntu; it won't be happening soon. An iPod would be limiting what I do with a device that size. I will keep the PDF handy though for future reference. This is written for Ubuntu Linux but should be similar setup for any other Linux based distribution.
My puzzles are on the back end; how do I get my wife's iPod/Macbook reading music out of the house library. I'm a minimal Mandriva or Deb install samba and support for iTunes network access. I just don't want the home library writtable by that kludgy iTunes especially should it decide to add DRM to existing music.
As for connecting my iPod to my Ubuntu; it won't be happening soon. An iPod would be limiting what I do with a device that size. I will keep the PDF handy though for future reference. This is written for Ubuntu Linux but should be similar setup for any other Linux based distribution.
My puzzles are on the back end; how do I get my wife's iPod/Macbook reading music out of the house library. I'm a minimal Mandriva or Deb install samba and support for iTunes network access. I just don't want the home library writtable by that kludgy iTunes especially should it decide to add DRM to existing music.
you could install xmms on your wife's macbook and have it stream music from the house library (i'm assuming said library is on the mandriva box?). and you can always import music onto your wife's ipod through the mandriva box - that way you're avoiding iTunes (bleargh) all together.
oh, just make sure if you install xmms that you get the version that will support the file type you use. here's a link for an xmms darwin port:
http://xmms.darwinports.com/
oh, just make sure if you install xmms that you get the version that will support the file type you use. here's a link for an xmms darwin port:
http://xmms.darwinports.com/
If I read correctly, I should be able to open a port on the Mandriva server and have iTunes tap it like any osX shared library. My wife should be able to listen to it all on her macbook or load up her iPod through the normal process. The only difference should be that the files are physically hosted on the central machine with the rest of my data.
She's my ultimate test subject with a love of technology bordering on distain. Average User Test? - Make it work easily for my wife or she won't touch it.
Now, if it was a house of geeks and everybody was Linux comfy they there would be no challenge; NSF, Amarok, gtkpod and it's done.
XMMS I used to use back when the Windows world was al over Winamp. I keep it on my PDA though I don't find reason to use it soo much these days. I will keep that idea in mind though should I need to stream media; I'd not thought of it for that use.
So far, VLC has been the lifesaver for osX and my media needs. The macbook as an out to TV adapter so we pull any video down to the local machine and run it too the TV through VLC. Streaming from the storage server may be an alternate option though.
She's my ultimate test subject with a love of technology bordering on distain. Average User Test? - Make it work easily for my wife or she won't touch it.
Now, if it was a house of geeks and everybody was Linux comfy they there would be no challenge; NSF, Amarok, gtkpod and it's done.
XMMS I used to use back when the Windows world was al over Winamp. I keep it on my PDA though I don't find reason to use it soo much these days. I will keep that idea in mind though should I need to stream media; I'd not thought of it for that use.
So far, VLC has been the lifesaver for osX and my media needs. The macbook as an out to TV adapter so we pull any video down to the local machine and run it too the TV through VLC. Streaming from the storage server may be an alternate option though.
I use the slimmer 64 bit Xubuntu flavour, because of that I was initially unable to get a package for xmms. But a quick online search provided the answer and now am back to using my favourite "won't choke on my real big all in one folder playlist" player...
YMMV
YMMV
Why anyone who has gone through the process of getting (any flavour) Linux to run well, would go to the trouble of getting an (overpriced) closed-source iPod with its attendant DRM nightmares is beyond me, when there are so many straight mp3 players out there into which you simply drop the songs you want from whatever source you want and even create your playlists with the built-in firmware.
An iPod for me? I would immediately sell it and go get myself some CDs with the money.
An iPod for me? I would immediately sell it and go get myself some CDs with the money.
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I'm confused by one thing -- the "attendant DRM nightmares" of which you speak. I don't understand. I make MP3 from my CD, or buy from Amazon (DRM free), I transfer to iPod, I listen. What nightmare?
I'm confused by one thing -- the "attendant DRM nightmares" of which you speak. I don't understand. I make MP3 from my CD, or buy from Amazon (DRM free), I transfer to iPod, I listen. What nightmare?
I've always been a strong believer that if I needed proprietary software just to transfer files from a device, be it an mp3 player or a digital camera, it is not worth my money for the inconvenience.
No matter the OS, it should just mount as a drive in your file manager of choice.
Also, isn't everyone just tired to death with everything seemingly needing an "i" in front of it? Find a fakking new letter to pick on...
No matter the OS, it should just mount as a drive in your file manager of choice.
Also, isn't everyone just tired to death with everything seemingly needing an "i" in front of it? Find a fakking new letter to pick on...
Remember eEverything to indicate that it was cool and hip and may somehow relate to computers. At least iEverything remains more closely bound to Apple products.
The one that really grinds on me is prefacing everyting and it's dog with "cyber".. Ever second news anouncement was about a cyberSomething because that meant it was hip and cool and somehow related to computers. This is the one that really gets me due to my considering a cyberSomething an electronic replication and inhancement of a human function; cybernetics being the evolution of bionics which just replicate. Cybereye, sure. Cyberlimb, yup. Cybercrime, nope.. it's just crime, we don't need the hip preface or differentiation.
The one that really grinds on me is prefacing everyting and it's dog with "cyber".. Ever second news anouncement was about a cyberSomething because that meant it was hip and cool and somehow related to computers. This is the one that really gets me due to my considering a cyberSomething an electronic replication and inhancement of a human function; cybernetics being the evolution of bionics which just replicate. Cybereye, sure. Cyberlimb, yup. Cybercrime, nope.. it's just crime, we don't need the hip preface or differentiation.
Yikes --
What I did: Installed Amarok. Installed gtk-pod. Launched Amarok. Plugged in iPod. Selected "Apple iPod" from the drop-down in the Amarok dialog that automagically appeared. Started transferring music to the device.
If I'd had to follow the directions in this article, I'd have given up.
What I did: Installed Amarok. Installed gtk-pod. Launched Amarok. Plugged in iPod. Selected "Apple iPod" from the drop-down in the Amarok dialog that automagically appeared. Started transferring music to the device.
If I'd had to follow the directions in this article, I'd have given up.
I run Ubuntu 7.10 & Amarok 1.4, & do not recall having to do anything on the command line to use my iPod Nano. Simply installed gtkpod & all its dependencies via Synaptic, plugged in the Nano & finally did some quick setup in Amarok. I now have full functionality w/ my Nano in Amarok.
For the person who asked why someone with Linux would try to connect a proprietary device, well, I told my kids to kiss Winders goodbye. However, I knew that the iPod connectivity and use was going to be an issue with my 16 year old daughter.
I had her use Amorok very briefly and then loaded Banshee. She told me that she had been adding music but couldn't see it. Then one day when we were playing with her iPod in the new car stereo, she saw all the newer songs in the library and it seemed that the new songs were added as mp3's instead of in iPods proprietary format. So she could see part of the music depending on what she was hooked up to. But at least all the stuff was there. But when gtkpod came out, I had her try that and she liked it better and said that it is working fine for her (slower to upload CD's to it than from Winders).
But I don't know about all the command line stuff. She asked a few questions to get started, but we never had to go to the command line for anything. She has been happier since she started using it than she was with Banshee (and before that Amarok). (I have them on PCLinuxOS, btw.)
I noticed that there was software out for the iPod called Floola. I just loaded it within this last week, but forgot to tell her to play around with that and see if she likes it. Thanks for the reminder! I will remind myself to tell her to try that when I get home...
I had her use Amorok very briefly and then loaded Banshee. She told me that she had been adding music but couldn't see it. Then one day when we were playing with her iPod in the new car stereo, she saw all the newer songs in the library and it seemed that the new songs were added as mp3's instead of in iPods proprietary format. So she could see part of the music depending on what she was hooked up to. But at least all the stuff was there. But when gtkpod came out, I had her try that and she liked it better and said that it is working fine for her (slower to upload CD's to it than from Winders).
But I don't know about all the command line stuff. She asked a few questions to get started, but we never had to go to the command line for anything. She has been happier since she started using it than she was with Banshee (and before that Amarok). (I have them on PCLinuxOS, btw.)
I noticed that there was software out for the iPod called Floola. I just loaded it within this last week, but forgot to tell her to play around with that and see if she likes it. Thanks for the reminder! I will remind myself to tell her to try that when I get home...
Has anyone tried to install the iTunes for the MacOSx, which is really UNIX. If it works in UNIX, it "should", in theory, work in Linux.
Curious.
Curious.
If I understand osX correctly, the BSD platform sits under the Apple makeup which is where most of Apple's programs interact.
I think you'd need to find a build of Caoca (spelling?) for your prefered *nix similar too how one requires QT libraries behind KDE apps or GTK behind Gnome apps.
I remember asking why Adobe can't simply recompile the osX code for Linux/BSD and getting an answer along those lines.
I think you'd need to find a build of Caoca (spelling?) for your prefered *nix similar too how one requires QT libraries behind KDE apps or GTK behind Gnome apps.
I remember asking why Adobe can't simply recompile the osX code for Linux/BSD and getting an answer along those lines.
I know it's still in some sort of beta state, but it promisses to be a nice replacement for iTunes, plus some other nice features. Based on Mozilla's XUL runner, it runs on Windows, Linux and Mac.
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