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        <title><![CDATA[Lenovo Thinkpad Quality]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[The classic Thinkpads are just as good, don't know about newer models. In progression of X line, fantastic machines with sturdy magnesium bodies and full size keyboards. I have had both an HP and MSI burn out motherboards in past three years, but my Thinkpads always reliable. Currently using an x200 which is very fast. The X230 pretty much the same but with slightly different key shapes (still full size). Now have added an ssd drive and 8gb of ram (although specs say can only handle 4 gb). Far superior to any other laptop I have ever owned. Imagine progression of T models is similar. If model is a progression of the classic machines originally IBM, can't be beat.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[imacamera]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Mon, 08 Apr 2013 11:34:16 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Not here]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[I haven't seen a Lenovo in any business for a very long time now. Lots of Dells, HP's and so on even a couple of Apples but no more Lenovo's.The business who what a tough NB are using Panasonic ToughBooks which are very nice thank you very much but no Lenovo's. Col]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[HAL 9000]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2012 09:54:40 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[The Fact IS]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[8 years after the taking over, 4 years after this article written, Lenovo-produced latops/desktops are still a major brand that businesses trust. Or, I dare to say, the most trusted.]]></description>
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        <pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2012 18:10:27 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Disccution]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Thanks for information www.sagarinfotech.com]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[rishiatwal]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 02:32:29 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Yep I do agree with you on this one]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Since Lenovo has bought the IBM Range of NB's the ThinkPad is certainly not what it used to be.I just love the way that Lenovo say that they improved it to be a Straight Clone of every other NB on the market by fitting a Faster CPU and more RAM. As if that is something special particularly when the had to use this bits as the Old Bits where no longer available. I have a couple of 50 MEG HDD here somewhere but back in the days when I bought my first PC I demanded a 500 MEG HDD which the salesperson didn't want to sell to me because they only had the one and 100 Meg was more than big enough as that was what they sold to everyone. Then add the 128 MEG of RAM to a SX100 486 in a Full Tower Case and it was too powerful and could never be fully utilized, well at least according the the guy trying to sell me something less.When that died many years latter I had fitted a Promise Tech IDE Card and had a Whopping 4 GIG HDD well 3 of them actually and with DR DOS 6 Loaded Windows 3.11 ran almost like M$ claimed it should. Of course moving from the Main Frame side of the Business to using a PC was a Big Step in the wrong direction but the Company did give use Portables from when the first became available. Though we didn't have any use for them at that time I think that they wanted their Techs to carry those old monsters around and Show Them Off. Latter when we got the Think Pads they where interesting and what made me look seriously at PCs.Col]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[HAL 9000]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 07:25:32 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Yes, indeed...]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[I think I can speak with some degree of authority about this subject, as the current owner of 3 ThinkPads.A litle background, if I may...For those old enough to remember, I have owned personal computers since the golden era of Commodore Vic-20 and Commodore 64!.. Had one of each. Then I bought my first 286, hard drive and all, a tremendous luxury for the time, even if so tiny... Ever improving, I also had 2 desktop Gateways. Then, for reasons arising from more work-related mobility, I bought in 2000 my first ThinkPad, an A21. It still lives, but out of respect for its seniority and only assign it sporadic and very light work. He deserves some rest.My second ThinkPad is an IBM T42, which I bought in 2004, still from the &quot;hands&quot; of IBM. It still goes kicking like a young horse!And finally, in December 2007 I made my last laptop acquisition, a Lenovo T61p.In my perspective, improvements, of course. But coming mainly ( if not exclusively )  from the advantage of speedier chips and ever refined technologies. Comparatively, though, the ThinkPad line has clearly been losing ground to its competitors since being acquired by Lenovo.The famous and exceedingly quality of the IBM customer service has gradually given way to a lackluster service, which makes a good match with the declining quality of the new ThinkPads themselves.Sorry. I wish it wasn't so, but there's no possible denying about this sad fact.]]></description>
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        <pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:39:07 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[You also should have a Cool Pad under every NB that you use]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[These help stop overheating problems that do damage the Video Card and HDD.Since I started supplying Cool Pads with every NB that I sell the problems have dropped off to virtually nothing on the Machine Side and just about every complaint is centered around the way that the user wants to do something. I've only had 1 Hardware issue and that was a Failed DVD Burner where the Glue that holds the Ribbon Cable to the Heads let go and the Ribbon Cable got bent through 180 Degrees breaking it.Hardly a Design Fault but most defiantly a Manufacturing Fault that was cheaper to replace the DVD Burner than to get it repaired Under Guarantee. It also helped that the repair once agreed upon only took 10 minutes to complete and cost under $100.00 AU.No inconvenience and very little lost production involved with no issues over lost Data. It was an easy solution. The Tech that told you had left it on too long got it way wrong but if he had of said that you where using it on the wrong type of Surface that would have been closer to being correct. These NB's suck air in from the bottom to cool the CPU and other items and if that Air Intake gets partially blocked the NB gets Hotter doing more damage. They also suck in dust and other garbage which limits their ability to cool things so when you add a Cool Pad every problem ceases to exist. I use these all the timehttp://www.antec.com/usa/productDetails.php?id=75004&amp;lan=usBut I have been told that you can pick these up from E-Bay for as little as $20.00. I can not say enough great things about them as they work a treat and stop the NB's filling up with Dust and other rubbish.Col]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[HAL 9000]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 05:52:19 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[it was only rebranding]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Lenovo manufactured the machines for IBM, they simply took over the brand rather than stamping IBM on them. Granted, IBM may have imposed higher quality controls as seems to be the feeling among many.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Neon Samurai]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 07:53:10 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Most definitely]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[I have three Thinkpads. 2 x T43 and one T60. The T43s have been reasonably good except for the noisy fans and LCD displays that fade or go pink around the time warranty runs out. The T60 has been a shocker. The tech I spoke to said they are usually a really good model, but I must have just got a dud one.You can imagine how happy I was to hear that I paid $2800.00 to get a dud one.The warranties seem shorter and if you want a warranty repair you really need to argue for it. I had a senior Lenovo technician tell me that the red tinged screen problem with my T43 was my own fault because I leave it turned on too long, and that these machines aren't designed to run for long periods of time. He also made up some complete lie about the problem being caused by drivers loading and timing of the screen refresh - what a crock!Needless to say I will never be buying a Thinkpad again, and I'm so angry about the poor service I got that I now hate the ones that I have because of the grief I know they will give me if something goes wrong.I really would have preferred for IBM to continue manufacturing the Thinkpads to their usual high standard. The price was not an issue as long as I was getting a good quality product. Unfortunately Thinkpads are now just another me too notebook. I put them on par with ASUS or ACER. I've been using a Fujitsu for work lately and it's been fantastic. Excellent build quality - great battery life - good feature set - and reasonably priced. I'll probably buy them when I'm rid of these Thinkpads.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[stg886]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 06:11:13 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[IBM's ThinkPads were made in Yamato, Greenock, Guad]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[I worked in the PC Division in Greenock, as Quality Assurance and Process Quality on Thinkpads. Since they sold manufacturing off and closed the IBM sites, the Lenovo influence has in my opinion detracted on the quality of Thinkpads in general. I have seen product( T60 and R60) which I have not been impressed with at all and find the limited availability of standard screens over wide format screens to be a major detractor.THE ONE GOOD THING IS THEY KEPT THE ANTIGLARE COATING... MUCH BETTER THAN THE MIRROR FININSH ON COMPETITOR SCREENSJim]]></description>
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        <pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 03:44:46 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Really???]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[When did this happen?Lenovo give the Thinkpad much more valueLenovo made it cheaper and on par with Dell's HP's and so on but that is hardly making it better.Much more innovationCare to explain this one for us Non True Believers of the Sales Boucher?much more serviceabilityWhen and how when IBM was making these things they where Brilliant now they are merely good.Better quality???  I have to completely disagree here the Quality of the IBM units was beyond reproach so how did Lenovo make them better?Col]]></description>
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        <pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 09:18:13 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[RE: Has Lenovo ruined the ThinkPad?]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Of course it's not ruined the Thinkpad,Lenovo give the Thinkpad much more value including Much more innovation/much more serviceability/Better quality.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[smilesuquan@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 03:06:13 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[website does load under firefox]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[I'm not stuck behind my IE6 limitation so I'm able to see the website. Just thought I'd post an update.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Neon Samurai]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 10:49:34 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[someone needs to test the website]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[I thought I'd do a quick fact check and confirm if it was just Suse that was available with Lenovo orders or what other software platforms where included:http://www.lenovo.com/planetwide/select/selector.htmlwith IE6 is having an issue it seems as I'm getting:&quot;??]?S??????? ??????(?? ??+??w???MG??XE?|&quot; and similar for a page of raw text. It could be my end but I can't confirm from here.(not related to the notebooks or quality but it did stop me from confirming my facts.)]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Neon Samurai]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 08:33:24 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Keep offering a Linux based OS option, pref multiple distros]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Outside of making product quality your primary concern of course. For me, it's knowing that I can get very good support from most modern distributions and BSDs if I purchase a thinkpad as the hardware platform. Being able to order from a selection of preinstalled OS adds to that in my case.Granted, you haven't a ruggedized machine that can compare to the Toughbook line but without the budget for a CF30, I'd be buying a ThinkPad before an Apple hardware platform even with the later allowing tripple boot. Hopefully I'll be placing a ThinkPad order within the next few months even.(unrelated sidenote wish): if you have guys that work with the BackTrack distribution specifically, I haven't yet seen the ThinkPad's wireless radio added to the supported hardware list. I know it's not due to Lenovo but I had to take a blind snapshot and mention it. As a network and security professional, that's a primary tool in my kit.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Neon Samurai]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 08:28:14 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[RE: Has Lenovo ruined the ThinkPad?]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[John, I am Ray Gorman, executive director, external communications, Lenovo. Your story has recently been brought to my attention, and nowhere does it say that Lenovo employees may not vote. I mean, where's the love for Lenovo employees? I believe ThinkPads are just as good as ever and voted accordingly. Although I suspect there are other Lenovo employees who have voted in this forum, I would wager that you have also attracted voters who are employees of our competitors. While in either case, it's fairly predictable how each would vote, the interesting fact is that there are really only two notebook PC brands that have their own fan forums and passionate enthusiasts. I'm pretty confident declaring that ThinkPad is one of those two. For example, when we did an online poll three years ago asking users about changing the color of ThinkPad, we received over two million responses worldwide. That's a lot of passion and a lot of eyeballs watching our every move with ThinkPad, and a lot more votes than we expected. Black won easily.In the later stages, IBM was not interested in the PC business and invested in R&amp;D accordingly. Lenovo is extremely interested in the PC business, and is investing in R&amp;D accordingly. ThinkPad is known for exceptional enginering, and I want to assure your readers that we continue to burn the midnight oil in our R&amp;D centers in Yamato, Raleigh and Beijing, to make ThinkPad better than ever. While BusinessWeek's &quot;Building the Perfect Laptop&quot;  cover story about ThinkPad X300 earlier this year made us very proud, what it really did was set the  bar even higher, and we aim for that bar every day. Thanks.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[rgorman@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 16:26:14 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[RE: Has Lenovo ruined the ThinkPad?]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[John, I am Ray Gorman, executive director, external communications, Lenovo. Your story has recently been brought to my attention, and nowhere does it say that Lenovo employees may not vote. I mean, where's the love for Lenovo employees? I believe ThinkPads are just as good as ever and voted accordingly. Although I suspect there are other Lenovo employees who have voted in this forum, I would wager that you have also attracted voters who are employees of our competitors. While in either case, it's fairly predictable how each would vote, the interesting fact is that there are really only two notebook PC brands that have their own fan forums and passionate enthusiasts. I'm pretty confident declaring that ThinkPad is one of those two. When we did an online poll three years ago asking users about changing the color of ThinkPad, we received over two million responses worldwide. That's a lot of passion and a lot of eyeballs watching our every move with ThinkPad, and a lot more votes than we expected. Black won easily.In the later stages, IBM was not interested in the PC business and invested in R&amp;D accordingly. Lenovo is extremely interested in the PC business, and is investing in R&amp;D accordingly. ThinkPad is known for exceptional enginering, and I want to assure your readers that we continue to burn the midnight oil in our R&amp;D centers in Yamato, Raleigh and Beijing, to make ThinkPad better than ever. While BusinessWeek's &quot;Building the Perfect Laptop&quot;  cover story about ThinkPad X300 earlier this year made us very proud, what it really did was set the  bar even higher, and we aim for that bar every day. Thanks.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[rgorman@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 16:21:59 -0700</pubDate>
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        <description><![CDATA[No, they???re just as good as ever.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[jl03276@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 16:18:02 -0700</pubDate>
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        <description><![CDATA[Yar darn tootin' it has! But not the hardware. It's the tons and tons of Lenovo StinkVantage crapware that really does the system in. 20 minutes to boot up and the hard disk light to stop flashing. No, it's not Defender. No, it's not a backup. It's all that crapware. And just try deleting pieces ya think ya don't need or the whole dang mess of StinkVantage software and watch what happens to Vista(32). Can you spell dead computer boys and girls. Time for a complete rebuild. But wait! There's more! When ya finally get it running again, it's NOT the same as when ya first powered it on. No more biometrics for example.God damn Lenovo!]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[dhamilt01@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 11:51:36 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[I expected]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[I had expected some Lenovo Still Rules from members of the TR audience that purchased them and use them on a regular basis. People sometimes get very passionate about the equipment they purchase and recommend.But an en-masse invasion was certainly more than I figured would occur.  Perhaps it is cultural. Who knows.It seems like more 'standard' TR members have the same opinion that I did - that Thinkpads are still decent, but not the gold standard they used to be.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[John Sheesley - TechRepublic Pro]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 11:20:34 -0700</pubDate>
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