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        <title><![CDATA[Exactly!]]></title>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[JackOfAllTech]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 21:54:09 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[If It's Not Company Data...]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[If it is not company data what is it doing on a company computer?  Why should IT be responsible for personal files?  If it gets lost it is the user's issue.  If your boss, or their boss, feels it should be your responsibility to secure their personal data then you probably have bigger problems than backing up personal data.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[bill.strough@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 08:13:45 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Exchange checkbox]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[I always check it but I don't trust it.(This could be left over from my first experience when we were running Server NT4)My last formal training occured a VERY long time ago and I may be behind on how some of the software has improved.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Cerebral*Origami]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 05:58:23 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Opening PSTs over a LAN]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[They may not support it but it works great.I have been using the set up of PSTs in concert with exchange for over 10 years.(I use the PSTs because MS backup will not backup open files and the exchange database is almost never closed.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Cerebral*Origami]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 05:51:37 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Outlook PSTs Are Not Supported Over A LAN]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[MS does not support opening Outlook PST files over a LAN:http://support.microsoft.com/Default.aspx?id=297019]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Aakash Shah]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 15:12:53 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Great]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[How do you ensure that the backups are verified and working.  That the are not corrupted PST files?Why not just host your own e-mail server then, that way the backup / verify and restore are much simpler!If not get a mail archiver sitting on an SMTP gateway device (say XP workstation, note max SMTP connections however).  It will take copies of all in / out mails if set correctly.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[The 'G-Man.']]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 05:28:20 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Server issues]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[I do work for a small company whose main office has 8 PC's and 2 Laptops, all on a Domain, with Seerver 2003 on the Server.I store all they're documents and files that would normally be saved to My Documents by default to the users personal folder on the Server, so that should a PC need to be replaced then I just need to connect up the new PC to the Domain and remap the My Documents. They're not allowed to save any thing work related to the Desktop or any location other than My Documents, so that releaves a lot of worry about work information been lost due to hardware failure.I used to store they're PSTs in they're personal folders as well until recently, when most of the users developed errors on opening Outlook due to the PST being locked. After a bit of research, (can't find the link now :{), it turns out that Server 2003 and PST files don't really like each other and for some reason Server 2003 was locking random PSTs at night during the backup. And no, before someone says it, Outlook was not open on any user PC due to strict company policy on powering off PC at the end of the day, as well as the fact that I've a batch file that runs at 7pm everyday should a PC be inadvertently left running, which uses taskkill to close Outlook and shut down Windows. This batch has run quiet successfully for the past year or so.I now have all the PSTs moved back to the user PC and run 2 seperate batch files to back up the PST. The first runs on Startup and copies the PST from it's current folder into a Backup Folder on a seperate partition and then the second one runs at lunch time through a Scheduled Task to copy the File from the Backup Folder to the users Personal Folder on the Server. The lunch time one runs at a 5min increment on each PC, ie: PC1 1300, PC2 1305 and so on, because not all of the users are out to lunch at the same time and this will not add too much traffic to the network.While I know it looks like a lot of work, it was actually implemented in about 10 minutes per PC and should anything happen to any of the PC's then I have at least one copy of the PST and the user only looses a days worth of emails, of which most are internal and easily retrieved from the sender.Well thats as they say my two cents on the subject, and to any one outthere who maintains a copmany's system be it one pc in a back office or a hundred spread across a dozen sites, remember, they pay you to do this and spending 5 minutes setting up an effective Backup procedure can save you hours of listening to an unhappy customer complain about lost data. Remember a happy customer will pay you faster and more reliably than an unhappy one, and more than likely retain your services should there be contracts involved!!(Oh my god, when did this become an essay???  =) )]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Jay_pee666]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 02:29:31 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Yep...]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Sounds like most companies that I've been employed at...]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[natty575]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 00:33:44 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[What is wrong with you people?]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[I'm not talking about company data!  All company data is stored on servers. I'm talking about user data that they have been told to backup themselves.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[JackOfAllTech]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 00:16:25 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Hello!]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[&quot;I.T. policy: all company data ... resides on company server&quot;That is exactly what I am talking about.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[JackOfAllTech]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 00:14:06 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Size Limits]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[2GB for Exchange Mail Boxes (2003) Persoanl of 10 GB.It sounds like a lot but not if there are large attachemnts and you have like five years of emails that have to be kept. Also the default is on the C: drive I agree PST suck.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[<brian lenon>]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 12:09:45 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Thanks!]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[That is a good bit of code!  It's nice to get posts with solutions to problems people have asked about.  Very good explanation on how it works as well!Bill]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[wdewey@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 11:55:25 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Volume shadow copy]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[I believe that if you enable volume shadow copy then you can backup open files.  VOLUME SHADOW COPY REQUIRES ABOUT 25% OF YOUR TOTAL DRIVE SPACE TO OPERATE so be aware of that before trying it.  I have not ever tried this so I don't know if it works or if there are any problems with it (other than taking up a lot of drive space).Bill]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[wdewey@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 11:41:43 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Exchange backup]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[The exchange backup is handled differently than files.  When exchange is installed on server 2003 it also upgrades ntbackup so that it can backup the email system.  I am 99% certain that SBS is also capable of this as well.  IT WILL NOT BACK THE FILES UP DIRECTLY.  These will show as failed.  Rather under the backup utility you should have a location called &quot;Microsoft Exchange Server&quot;.  Expanding that will list information stores which can be checked and backed up.  This is very similar to backing up the system state and if you are not doing that then I strongly recommend it.Edit:  Meant to post this one level up.  Also, I use ntbackup on several servers including an exchange server and it works fine.  It requires more management and has very little logging, but I consider it a pretty good free product.  I have restored backups to dissimilar hardware in a test environment and once I had the process down it was fairly straight forward and worked fine (disaster recovery scenario).Bill]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[wdewey@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 11:38:53 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Backing up personal info]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Agree with this post, but just to add info...If you are trying to capture all your data and then copying the C:\Documents and Settings\&quot;username&quot; folder.  Make sure you can view hidden files or several folders will not be copied (including the standard folders for outlook/outlook express).  This will get all of your personal data unless you specifically save it some place else (and if you do that then make sure that you copy that/those locations as well).NOTE:  If you are trying to backup your computer to do a full recovery then you will need to do the full C: Drive.  If you only want to backup user data then the documents and folder directory will make your backup smaller and faster.Bill]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[wdewey@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 11:30:00 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Response time/equipment]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[I really hate to tell you this since you seem to have all the answers, but servers fail.  Network equipment fail.  This is a small office environment.  Someone may have tripped over the power cord to the server and didn't realize it.  If you have a dedicated staff or can get by without email and other services until someone can arrive then great.  Otherwise running off of a local PC may be a good solution to &quot;get by&quot; until a professional can get things running again.  Building a fully redundant idiot proof system is not an option for most businesses.  Also response times for large PST's on the network may be an issue as well for a little bit larger companies.  Of course if the users backed up and archived their PST's the way you trained them to then this may be less of a problem.  I personally find the way that Outlook handles archived files is poor.  I still don't understand why I can't search all my archived PST's without having to go to each one individually.Bill]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[wdewey@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 11:22:03 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Don't see where PST's get scooped up]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Unless the PST's have been moved from their default location.C:\documents and settings\%USERNAME%\local settings\application data\microsoft\...location is different for Outlook and Outlook express.Bill]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[wdewey@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 11:06:07 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[No worries]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[No worries Have a good one!]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Aakash Shah]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 09:42:40 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Long Delay]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Although it could be done as a log off script, I wouldn't recommend it because it would take a very long time.  If the PST file was 1GB, it would have to copy the entire file back and so the user would have to wait while this file is copied if the user is simply rebooting and not just logging/shutting down for the day.  By scheduling it late at night, you don't have to worry about the amount of time it takes to copy and users waiting on this.  So, I wouldn't recommend copying a PST file in a logoff script.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Aakash Shah]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 09:40:12 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[No central server; several offices]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[So, we have small offices in 13 different cities.  Only two have servers, and we have the PFBackup tool direct the PST backup to the server for them.  Other individuals are on their own.  The PFBackup goes to their My Docs, and we tell them how to back up My Docs to an external drive or free online storage place (we are a poor non-profit).  All &quot;real&quot; company data (besides individual documents and the PSTs) are on various ASP applications.  I don't see how we can automate PST or any other backups when people are on laptops and not plugged in at any certain times.  Any thoughts?]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[hsnelson@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 08:04:56 -0800</pubDate>
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