Every one of my Facebook friends really are my friends and I would tell them anything.
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Of all the contacts I have on FB, about 6 of them are people who could possibly lead me to a position.
When I've used Twitter, I immediately attracted over 100 followers who are not people I know, but are those hoping I 'follow back'.
Contacting the folks I know who can possibly help, sure. Broadcasting to the world? I don't see it necessarily useful.
When I've used Twitter, I immediately attracted over 100 followers who are not people I know, but are those hoping I 'follow back'.
Contacting the folks I know who can possibly help, sure. Broadcasting to the world? I don't see it necessarily useful.
I would first update my LinkedIn page then tweet about my loss and direct people to view my LinkedIn page.
Agree with canddsol about LinkedIn, and also applies to similar business networking sites. However, don't think I'd post the layoff immediately on joining or updating, at least not for general broadcast. Instead, use part of your job search time to joining key interest groups on LinkedIn. Participate in the discussions and make a contribution to help by providing information/insight to others. Then, post the news on the Jobs discussion tab and mention the kind of positions you think are appropriate for your skills and where you can contribute value to a potential employer. This way, you establish your expertise among the group and don't appear to be totally desparate.
I can't agree more. One of the goals of LinkedIn is to bring employers and employees together. Twitter is useful to point to the respective URL's...
Stop the tweeting peeps! What an unbelievable waste of time.
Stuff your head in the sand and pretend everything is cool. Thank god your not my IT manager. This is reality, people are getting laid off right and leftr around you. Frankly sir, with your attitude, you may be next. YES, others, should let their network know that they are available, qualified and would be happy to get a recommendation from those following them.
.. how much credence can you lend to the advice of someone who has chosen to "rule" and administer his leadership skills from an IT mecca(?) such as Macedonia,Ohio ?
Sure, instead of saying "For me, Twitter is not useful at all" he called it an "unbelieveable waste of time" which is a bit of an offensive way of demonstrating a personal opinion, but then you people attack his "mgmt skills" and "advice credence"? Is there something I am missing here? Did he wrong you all in another life?
In a strongly connected world it doesn't matter where you exercise your management skills from, all that matters is that you do it effectively.
Twitter is a great informal tool to broadcast individual news throughout the world! If we didn't have Twitter we would not have been as informed about the situations in Iran! Also, peeps should not be used in any situation, formal or informal..
HR and Employers these days scour all those social engineering sites and other public information looking for reasons not to hire you. I do not have any social networking accounts and nor do i intend to as if I want to declare anything to the world, I will just say to who I deemed pertinent. I was told by another manager in a small office I worked in about how they were googling my name before they considered hiring me. I was a bit taken back by that remark but grateful now. Be careful of your public image on the internet. I read a recent article of a Florida public works department requesting being added to the friends list of potential candidates private myspace and facebook.
be careful of your public profile, It very well could harm your career opportunities.
be careful of your public profile, It very well could harm your career opportunities.
Having said that, I don't use Twitter because (for me) it is a silly idea. But I do use Facebook a little.
I sure hope that Toni Bowers didnt get paid by Techrepublic for this totally uninteresting waste of space and my time; it is lacking real substance, what journalistic research went into this article - none, a waste of electrons.
Go use Facebook / Twitter or whatever for spewing out uninformative crap.
Leave the IT information websites for well written informative IT related information.
Go use Facebook / Twitter or whatever for spewing out uninformative crap.
Leave the IT information websites for well written informative IT related information.
I am out of work for more than a year, due to downsizing. I am on Twitter since late march and tweet occasionally that I am in the market for new career opportunities with a link to my online resume. So far I had a few people telling me that they will keep their eyes open but the majority of people following me after sending such tweets are Network Marketers (aka MLM Marketers) trying to sell me on a scheme how to make big money quick. So far neither Facebook, LinkedIn or Twitter have proven to be successful in my search for new career opportunities.
Twitter, Facebook, etc. etc. is a tool we all can use to acquaint others with our skillsets, in a subtle way, and ask for help in a unobtrusive way. Unfortunately no one has figured out how to keep the sharks and wolves away from your inbox....
Check out "What Color is Your Parachute?" it's a great book and can really help you get the little push that you may need. Sometimes it's the attitude that stops someone from hiring you, not the experience or education.
I agree with Toni. Of course you should not avoid tweeting about job loss. Let people know but rather than just announcing your unemployment, mention three things you can provide to an employer right now. Help people know how to help you.
Providing information about your circumstances does not have to be done with desperation. And remember to update people periodically on your career transition progress. Rita Carey, Ed.D. Career Management Specialist.
Providing information about your circumstances does not have to be done with desperation. And remember to update people periodically on your career transition progress. Rita Carey, Ed.D. Career Management Specialist.
Never, ever slam your former employer publicly. No matter the circumstances of your separation.
I'm in the staffing industry and I teach how to get top dollar from a job search which leads to the best offer you can negotiate.
Tweeting 50 out 52 updates that youre laid off will have a negative effect earning top dollar if a lot of recruiters get your updates because you've just let us know that you will probably accept the lowest offer I give you if I have a job for you because you appear very desperate.
My advice is to Tweet about once a month "I'm laid off or looking for opportunities".
Regarding Facebook updates ask yourself "friend or foe"
However, over attending network events really hurts you more than know.
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Tweeting 50 out 52 updates that youre laid off will have a negative effect earning top dollar if a lot of recruiters get your updates because you've just let us know that you will probably accept the lowest offer I give you if I have a job for you because you appear very desperate.
My advice is to Tweet about once a month "I'm laid off or looking for opportunities".
Regarding Facebook updates ask yourself "friend or foe"
However, over attending network events really hurts you more than know.
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I find this whole concept of social/networking sites turning into something it was never intended to. Yesterday I'm reading about how some RIDICULOUS requirement to work for some kinda' backwater city job requires that in order to apply for a job, you must reveal what sites, your login ID and password! This whole social website thing has become absolutely ridiculous! Not the sites themselves, but the reaction of people to them, with all the does and don'ts and unreasonable demands by employers. I believe that as time progresses, the human population must be losing IQ points.
And many commentators on that story (concerning Bozeman, MT) pointed out that divulging the passwords would violate the Terms of Service of most or all of those services. There also was no way to block the applicant from changing the password subsequently, so such a request is ineffectual and silly.
anyone would ask me for the passwords for the social media sites I use, I'd simply refuse to give them. You don't give them the keys to your car / house either, "because it's part of the application process"...
Either it's a test of intelligence for the employee or for the employer....either way, that's none of their business and may be illegal.
If the job involves invasion of privacy, I will look elsewhere.
If the job involves invasion of privacy, I will look elsewhere.
...I'd be tempted to reply with "I am planning on submitting an application, but first I must require you to send me your user names and logins for all your personal networking sites so I can be sure what kind of people I would be working for." ^_^
Facebook, Twitter, etc. are great if you have professional friends on there that can help you. If I were looking for a job (thank goodness I'm not) I would go guerrilla style on LinkedIn. It's a professional's networking site. I'd invite people to join me for lunch. I'd call people. I'd email people. It's a great way to stay in touch with your professional contacts.
I wouldn't use any social networking to talk about how down-trodden I am. I'd use it to announce that I'm seeking exciting new opportunities. I'd update my status what technologies I've been reading about.
I wouldn't use any social networking to talk about how down-trodden I am. I'd use it to announce that I'm seeking exciting new opportunities. I'd update my status what technologies I've been reading about.
I tweeted, FB'd, and emailed my LUG list about my layoff and my future boss saw it and brought me in for an interview. The rest was up to me.
Hitting up your network is a good way to help find another job. Don't overdo it, but do it at least once.
Hitting up your network is a good way to help find another job. Don't overdo it, but do it at least once.
Toni hit the right message on this post. The guy in Portland wanted the web traffic.
I lost a job at a major consulting firm in February. I tweeted, Facebooked, and LinkedIn about it. Social media was one component of my overal job search -- "I am in transition and now seeking new opportunities in XYZ industry." The social media brought a lot of great contacts and advice because I stayed positive and only messaged once every few weeks.
In my case I got a great job through a client reference and a phone call...but I won't hesitate to crawl Twitter / Facebook / LinkdIn for great candidates when I hire a supervisor in a month or so.
I lost a job at a major consulting firm in February. I tweeted, Facebooked, and LinkedIn about it. Social media was one component of my overal job search -- "I am in transition and now seeking new opportunities in XYZ industry." The social media brought a lot of great contacts and advice because I stayed positive and only messaged once every few weeks.
In my case I got a great job through a client reference and a phone call...but I won't hesitate to crawl Twitter / Facebook / LinkdIn for great candidates when I hire a supervisor in a month or so.
We had a guy here who posted on LinkedIn that he had been laid off before it was even announced here. That was a little awkward.
Another guy got laid off the same day that he sent out an email to some coworkers about having a cookout at his place. That ended up cancelled.
Another guy got laid off the same day that he sent out an email to some coworkers about having a cookout at his place. That ended up cancelled.
I would expect an advertising copywriter to be a bit smarter than that. (Then again, when I lived in Portland, I did notice some of them could be a little shy on knowledge in this area.)
It's one thing to make a point-of-fact that your job is coming to an end. Totally another thing to say it the way that he styled it in his example.
One piece of advice I hear most in job search after layoff is to start networking. Social networking is networking.
It's one thing to make a point-of-fact that your job is coming to an end. Totally another thing to say it the way that he styled it in his example.
One piece of advice I hear most in job search after layoff is to start networking. Social networking is networking.
As an independent consultant, I've been laid off several times, and had projects end without having another one lined up immediately. Networking is what I do to get the news out. I also try to use my social networking outlets to show people how to deal with job searches effectively. When I post to Facebook and Yahoo Groups about my experiences, I try to tell a good story, and share information about what I'm doing to get back to work. When I succeed in finding something, I crow about it. People like to hear good news, too.
Layoffs are scary! In my experience, people WANT to know how I cope, and especially how I'm able to find jobs quickly. The more I can do to show people how to recover, use time effectively, and face challenges with creativity and good humor, the more likely they are to (a) read my posts, (b) offer assistance, and (c) remain my friends.
So yes, tweet about a layoff, but make sure there's something in your tweets that will interest your readers. Invite interaction by asking compelling questions. Talk about the good things (if any) that happen to you during your down time. Post helpful hints. Not only will it keep people informed about your life, but it may help you feel less isolated during your job hunt.
Layoffs are scary! In my experience, people WANT to know how I cope, and especially how I'm able to find jobs quickly. The more I can do to show people how to recover, use time effectively, and face challenges with creativity and good humor, the more likely they are to (a) read my posts, (b) offer assistance, and (c) remain my friends.
So yes, tweet about a layoff, but make sure there's something in your tweets that will interest your readers. Invite interaction by asking compelling questions. Talk about the good things (if any) that happen to you during your down time. Post helpful hints. Not only will it keep people informed about your life, but it may help you feel less isolated during your job hunt.
When someone is layed off, there are a lot of negative feelings that will come into play. It often helps to write or talk with close friends. Facebook and Twitter are much open for every feeling to come out. Remember, there are some people that feed off other's negative feelings, and others that are turned off if they continue.
Companies now want to use these networkd to check up on employees. If you broadcast to your network you called in sick, but really went to the beach or sports game, this could have a negative effect on your job.
Companies now want to use these networkd to check up on employees. If you broadcast to your network you called in sick, but really went to the beach or sports game, this could have a negative effect on your job.
Most of what goes on with these "social" sites is just plain juvenile. I can understand wanting to use your networking tools but hey, consider where you are posting!
Facebook and the like are NOT professional sites such as LinkedIn. What they are is a place where teenagers go to cry about their pimples, brag about whatever they have to brag about, or push themselves off as something they are not.
If you want to use networking on the web then go to a professional networking site.
These are not only my opinions they are the opinions of true professionals in the field.
How do you want to appear to these professionals who may just be the ones who will make the decision to hire you or not?
Think about it!
Facebook and the like are NOT professional sites such as LinkedIn. What they are is a place where teenagers go to cry about their pimples, brag about whatever they have to brag about, or push themselves off as something they are not.
If you want to use networking on the web then go to a professional networking site.
These are not only my opinions they are the opinions of true professionals in the field.
How do you want to appear to these professionals who may just be the ones who will make the decision to hire you or not?
Think about it!
That can be said about Bebo and Myspace where the primary ages seem under-19 and under-25 respectively. People on my facebook feed are not that way at all. Some of the posts on there may be in the mundane (and for fun). Some of them are practical day to day logistics.
And my network is diverse on there. It's entirely likely I'll hear of one mate that needs work and another that needs the job done. They may think that Linkedin is too much for computer and marketing professionals. (And truth be told, I think it's a bit too much that way.) I can still see and introduce them on facebook.
And my network is diverse on there. It's entirely likely I'll hear of one mate that needs work and another that needs the job done. They may think that Linkedin is too much for computer and marketing professionals. (And truth be told, I think it's a bit too much that way.) I can still see and introduce them on facebook.
MySpace. . . What a complete waste of bandwidth and social values. Strike that Social values don''t exist on MySpace. And neither do ethics. FaceBook will slip into the same pitfalls in no time at all. Oh , wait, it already has.
Tweeting ? About your job or lack there of?
How down right pathetic to think that people who would want to hire you are watching with baited breath your Twitter page.
Don't whine to the planet that your out of work. Get out of YourSpace, HIT the Bricks KNOCK on Doors and put "Your Face" infront of employers. Employers want to see you in person handing them a well written resume.
It shows you have drive and ambition.
And for godsake do not put your Myspace, FaceBook or Twit URL on your resume. It makes you look like a social vacuum. These sites are the latest craze to say publicly, My life Sucks and I want every body to know about it.
I say you must stand above the rest, and not fall into the false security trap that you have an on-line life everyone wants to know about.
Because seriously we don't.
Trivia. . . What was the name of the site shutdown by the government because it became infested with sexual predators?
Tweeting ? About your job or lack there of?
How down right pathetic to think that people who would want to hire you are watching with baited breath your Twitter page.
Don't whine to the planet that your out of work. Get out of YourSpace, HIT the Bricks KNOCK on Doors and put "Your Face" infront of employers. Employers want to see you in person handing them a well written resume.
It shows you have drive and ambition.
And for godsake do not put your Myspace, FaceBook or Twit URL on your resume. It makes you look like a social vacuum. These sites are the latest craze to say publicly, My life Sucks and I want every body to know about it.
I say you must stand above the rest, and not fall into the false security trap that you have an on-line life everyone wants to know about.
Because seriously we don't.
Trivia. . . What was the name of the site shutdown by the government because it became infested with sexual predators?
On who your Facebook friends are. I have several professional contacts that I regularly interface with on Facebook, that are not on linked in. I would certainly want them to know I was looking. As well as my close personal friends who are in the IT field. Really, when you dismiss Facebook as a teenager site you reveal that you don't know what you are talking about. I read recently that the fastest growing population segment on social networking sites are 40-65 crowd.
I think that people should avoid "tweeting" altogether. For that matter avoid updating facebook every two minutes and 95% of blogs should be shut down. But thats just my opinion.
at all an excellent point. This is TECHRepublic and I don't think you are spending more than a few minutes daily (maybe 30-40 max?) around here, talking mostly about technical/career related subjects.
It is almost the opposite of Twitter
It is almost the opposite of Twitter
One can use Twitter in exactly the same way - many do. Not only that there's are lots of recruiters on Twitter tweeting about job opportunities.
My Lord - how old are we all and how much spare time do we have?
I think you are doing what you are telling us not to do.... Yes?
So much for advice....
So much for advice....
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