The start of the thread has to do with being man enough to take personal responsibility, which I wholeheartedly agree should be done. Even though employers take advantage of employees all the time, the "right" thing for anyone to do is the right thing, not depend on being sue-happy.

What the thread has degraded into is fat person hatred or even self-loathing, which I cannot and will not endorse in any way. I had a friend who died while getting stomach surgery for the sake of aesthetics as well as health and I often wonder if she would be here had she not been mentally tortured and looked down upon by many unkind, unthinking people.

I am certainly not the "there there, have another Big Mac" type. I think people should improve themselves whenever possible but shouldn't be berated for not reaching that goal. You don't know what shoes another person is walking in, so please don't make biased assumptions or generalizations.