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        <title><![CDATA[Well...]]></title>
        <link><![CDATA[http://www.techrepublic.com/forum/discussions/102-322761-3310235]]></link>
        <description><![CDATA[Not every other OS out there has their web browser embedded so deep into the kernal (the CORE of the OS, below the GUI &amp; API's) that the only difference between that OS's web browser and file manager is just the skin that you're looking at because they are the same at the core.True, some versions of Linux have GUI's where the file manager ~CAN~ double as a web browser (KDE's Konqueror, I'm looking at you), but that doesn't stop the system from playing nice with any alternative web browsers (such as Firefox) you download and install (unlike Windows NT 5.1/5.2, NT6 &amp; NT 6.1 (aka: XP, Vista &amp; 7) with Firefox 3).]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Technous285]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2010 10:38:24 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Simply No.]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[No other OS allows you to choose your Internet browser in this way.You can always install any browser of your choice in any OS.If MS is forced to do it, then Apple and other Linux distribtion should do it as well.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[fmendez]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 05:42:17 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Well, if you'll recall]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[MS offered the browser choice screen in the EU to avoid a fine of quite a few Euros.  To be honest, most private users I know don't even know there's an alternative to IE.  A good many of them, in fact, just refer to IE as 'the Internet'.To most of them, discussions about alternate browsers are just so much noise, much the same as listening to car fanatics debate carburetor size or fuel injector capacity.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[NickNielsen]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2010 14:54:56 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[I agree...]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Let's be fair. Understandably, there is a lot of hate for M$, and it's not because (or just because) Mr Gates once had the fattest wallet. There are fundamental problems with Win OS, which has been I suppose regrettably has be introduced, integrated and embedded, namely Explorer.On the flipside however, there are numerous OS that also have pre-installed web browsers, most popular alternatives being Linux, Tiger OS, and we can extend this on to mobile devices, such as the iPad and iPhone... or how about the ever stringent Apple Marketplace?]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Shaunny Boy]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2010 07:44:09 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[OK, but]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Ubuntu gets installed with Firefox - where was my choice?]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[The 'G-Man.']]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2010 05:54:24 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Not possible]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[IE will not (not does not, will not) run under Linux except inside a VM, and even then it has problems.  That's my experience running Ubuntu 10.04 with XP inside VirtualBox.Edit: Remember all the reasons MS gave for not being able to remove IE from Windows?]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[NickNielsen]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2010 03:14:09 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Apple and all the *nix should do this as well then]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[and include IE as an option!]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[The 'G-Man.']]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2010 01:36:59 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[RE: A petition to Microsoft: Give everyone Internet browser Choice Screen]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[YES]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[renny@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 22:42:25 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[RE: A petition to Microsoft: Give everyone Internet browser Choice Screen]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[YES -YES - YES - No question Microsoft should give up its monopoly of deciding for me / us.eva]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[evagergely@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 06:55:09 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[rickk@, Deadly doesn't understand the concept of a marketplace...]]></title>
        <link><![CDATA[http://www.techrepublic.com/forum/discussions/102-322761-3227166]]></link>
        <description><![CDATA[... and probably never will, so there's no point in arguing with him.  He belligerently seems to believe that the decisions about what goes into products belong in the hands of legislators, prosecutors, &quot;anititrust&quot; court judges, and others of the same bureaucratic mindset - rather than in the hands of the producers and the consumers (the marketplace).  The sad thing is that he thinks he is 'on the side of the people', when in actuality his sentiments merely aid in the eventual expanse of governmental power and add uncertainty and the expense that go with it to the producers' side of the marketplace, the expense which ultimately gets passed on to &quot;the average users&quot; in the form of higher prices.A marketplace is simple.  A product is offered for sale.  People are free to either buy the product as offered or not.  Either side can attempt negotiation, but neither side has a right to *demand* what they want from the other.  That's all &quot;antitrust&quot; court cases are - force-backed demands.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[amateurfixerfriend]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 08:00:44 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Rickk, you either won't or can't understand one thing]]></title>
        <link><![CDATA[http://www.techrepublic.com/forum/discussions/102-322761-3226594]]></link>
        <description><![CDATA[Why would you search for something you don't even know exists?The vast majority of average users not only have no idea they have alternatives to the Windows hegemony on their PC, they think that browser and internet are interchangeable terms.  I can't tell you how many times I've had users ask &quot;Why doesn't my internet work?&quot;  when the problem is that IE either won't open or is acting differently from what they are used to.  And many of these people will tell you, dead serious,  &quot;That's not the internet!&quot; if you present them with anything other than Internet Exploder in its default configuration.No condemnatory words in your post, but in context as a whole...etu]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[NickNielsen]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 09:49:08 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[rickk, there is a difference between buying a product that's]]></title>
        <link><![CDATA[http://www.techrepublic.com/forum/discussions/102-322761-3226543]]></link>
        <description><![CDATA[sold as a basic product and one that's sold as a luxury with lots of extras. How would you feel if your car purchase is listed as a a basic car but it's only available with the 650 watt stereo, sun roof, GPS, CB radio, tow bar, bull bar, string of driving lights, and seven foot trailer attached - when you only want a basic car but the car company has decided, in their own wisdom, that you need the lot and they love the extra profits they get from selling the big package.Put simply, Microsoft is NOT offering an features, they are pre bundling applications into the operating system package to edge other software companies of those applications out of the market. They also up the price and their profit at the same time. And you seem to think this is a fit and proper way to do things. US federal attorneys and law courts have decided such behaviour is not correct and fined MS heavily, plus the huge legal fees of the defence lawyers over the decade of the law suits. European Union law courts have done the same. The actions of MS is taking this improper behaviour have also added to the cost of the current versions of Windows as they've recovered those costs by building all those legal costs into the latest version.I don't buy MS or Windows. I also try to educate people as most people are NOT aware that there are alternatives to Windows and MS applications, due to the MS predatory marketing actions.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Deadly Ernest]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 08:11:56 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[so they Google PC Purchase and still end up with]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[no really usable information about browsers. Google is good only if there is little information on a subject or you already know enough to refine it very well.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Deadly Ernest]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 08:00:46 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Call it internet explorer]]></title>
        <link><![CDATA[http://www.techrepublic.com/forum/discussions/102-322761-3226484]]></link>
        <description><![CDATA[I don't know why, but if I ask someone to open their &quot;web browser&quot;, they are almost always stumped.  But if I say open Internet Explorer, 99% of the time they know what I am talking about.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Slayer_]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 07:07:52 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Sounds excessive]]></title>
        <link><![CDATA[http://www.techrepublic.com/forum/discussions/102-322761-3226483]]></link>
        <description><![CDATA[In Mint, all I did was click Detect Hardware.  It said you have nVidia graphics card, these are the possible drivers from nVidia, we recommend this one.  Which do you want.I clicked it, it said downloading, I waited, it said finished and restart your computer.Done.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Slayer_]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 07:05:53 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Really!  What the Hell is Wrong with You?]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Just how many products can you pick and choose to get exactly what you want and not pay for the rest?My wife's minivan came with a flash light in the back next to the spare tire.  I didn't ask for or want it but I can guarantee you it's included in the price.My cell phone comes with mobile IM that I didn't want or ask for but I'm sure it's included in the price.My car has a 650 watt stereo system with a sub woofer that I had to buy the sun roof in order to get the stereo package (they weren't offered separately).My TV has 6 component and composite inputs.  We use two.  I didn't ask for or need all 6 inputs but I paid for them.Really Deadly, why is this so hard to get past your thick skull?The idea of a company offering features that you didn't ask for but have to pay for in a product is nothing new or unique to Microsoft.If you don't like it, don't buy it.But more important, don't push your ideals on other people.  If you don't approve of it, move on.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[rkuhn@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 06:22:29 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Who Was I Condemning?]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[I was simply pointing out the obvious.If Joe Public is smart enough to Google things like American Idol, Haiti earthquake, etc then they are smart enough to Google information about their next PC purchase.It's not a lack of knowledge, it's laziness.BTW, don't think I'm a competent service technician?  Nice way to debate with someone...they disagree with you so therefore you insult them.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[rkuhn@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 05:56:21 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Correct, why should we pay MS to put applications into]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[the OS unless we specifically ask for those apps to be added to the system? Yet MS are doing that, and have done so for over a decade - add in applications and lift the price of the OS, that is.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Deadly Ernest]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 22:23:33 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[The average users doesn't even know to try Google as they]]></title>
        <link><![CDATA[http://www.techrepublic.com/forum/discussions/102-322761-3226343]]></link>
        <description><![CDATA[don't know other browsers exist or their names. Watch the looks on their faces when you run across them down the street or in the department stores buying computers. Hell, watch the looks on the faces of the salespeople selling HP and Dell computers in the department stores when you ask about Fire Fox or Opera or anything BUT Idiot Explorer.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Deadly Ernest]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 22:21:53 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Why should we pay?]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Why should we pay because of someone else's ignorance? Ignorance is no defense in court and it sure as hell isn't an offense out here.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Draygonia@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 20:04:56 -0800</pubDate>
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