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Lack of multitask and the fact that you will have to hold on it at all times seems like a dealbreaker atleast for me..
If you need a keyboard, you'll get wanting something more flexible and powerfull, and being the iPhone OS a non multitasking, closed and iTunes-only manageable device, I assume that the device, although good for some of the described tasks, will fail at some more demanding things.
Erik spent all that time waxing rhapsodic over the integrated virtual keyboard, and you had to suggest augmenting it with an additional purchase.
Anyone can pickup a $300-$400 netbook and have all of the 'standard' (whatever your corporate standard is), VPN, Remote Desktop etc.
With the connection of a real monitor keyboard and mouse it becomes a desktop PC and still costs less than the iAnything.
With the connection of a real monitor keyboard and mouse it becomes a desktop PC and still costs less than the iAnything.
Most of these features have been available in earlier tablets for years. What makes them so special now that Apple offers them? With that said...
E-mail / Exchange connectivity, Internet, e-books, calendars, contacts - already exist in other devices and form factors.
Ease of use - there's a winning point, but is it worth all the missing features?
Integrated keyboard - this is a toss-up. One person's 'clumsy mechanical' keyboard is another person's tactile feedback. If I can't feel physical keys, how can I tell where my fingers are without watching them?
"...installing the functionality of an iPhone on steroids,"
I'd avoid all comparisons to the functionality of an iPhone. The inability to make phone calls is the most obvious failing of this system, especially when most models offer 3G connectivity.
Applications - just as long as you only run one at once, and aren't interested in anything NOT offered by Apple. There are more apps in the world NOT written for the iPhone / iPad than are written for it.
E-mail / Exchange connectivity, Internet, e-books, calendars, contacts - already exist in other devices and form factors.
Ease of use - there's a winning point, but is it worth all the missing features?
Integrated keyboard - this is a toss-up. One person's 'clumsy mechanical' keyboard is another person's tactile feedback. If I can't feel physical keys, how can I tell where my fingers are without watching them?
"...installing the functionality of an iPhone on steroids,"
I'd avoid all comparisons to the functionality of an iPhone. The inability to make phone calls is the most obvious failing of this system, especially when most models offer 3G connectivity.
Applications - just as long as you only run one at once, and aren't interested in anything NOT offered by Apple. There are more apps in the world NOT written for the iPhone / iPad than are written for it.
Most people who are skilled at typing use the two raised bars on the "F" and "J" keys to located where their fingers are and then type while looking at either the screen or a document they are reading off of. If you can't feel where you're typing, you have to look where you're typing. Seems like much more of a hunt and peck keyboard. If you're hunting and pecking, how is it any different than the iPhone or other phone keyboards? iPad still doesn't allow for efficient typing.
Check the dates, dude. I posted this over a week ago. Just because you're just now finding this discussion doesn't mean I'm posting 'again'. I suspect if I hadn't belatedly responded to G-Man's correction below, you might never have found this thread.
I'm not sure what phrasing I'm using that gives you the impression I'm angry. I'm confused, but not angry.
I'm not sure what phrasing I'm using that gives you the impression I'm angry. I'm confused, but not angry.
No multi-tasking, no flash, annoying touch screen keyboard, poor security, lack of common ports(usb, vga etc)
A Ubuntu or Windows 7 netbook is far more practical.
A Ubuntu or Windows 7 netbook is far more practical.
As far as I am aware of, the IPad doesn't have MS Office. This is huge.
And MS has a light weight web-hosted version of Office. But who wants to do serious editing or numeric entry on a virtual keyboard?
You ask: But who wants to do serious editing or numeric entry on a virtual keyboard?
Well right there is another reason this device will not be a hit with business users. Because these are the users who will need to do serious editing and numeric entry. I agree, a touch screen virtual keyboard is not the answer.
And with AT&T's terrible 3g coverage, you are going to need a locally installed version of Office because cloud apps are not an option for people in my area as to find the nearest location with AT&T 3g coverage requires traveling there via plane, not car.
Well right there is another reason this device will not be a hit with business users. Because these are the users who will need to do serious editing and numeric entry. I agree, a touch screen virtual keyboard is not the answer.
And with AT&T's terrible 3g coverage, you are going to need a locally installed version of Office because cloud apps are not an option for people in my area as to find the nearest location with AT&T 3g coverage requires traveling there via plane, not car.
I forgot! I don't have to support these because you can't get an AT&T signal where I work! Because of this, the entire company just went to Verizon.
Potential non-problem solved before it occurred. Thanks, travis!
Potential non-problem solved before it occurred. Thanks, travis!
I still don't see them coming in the building in their current configuration.
I would have thought they would put a real OS and not a phone OS. I love my Ipod Touch but I can't do any flash on it and there are some websites that are all flash. Bummer. Off my list now.
Disagree.
I can use iphone for emails. Even Ipodtouch is very nice with wiFi. So Y ipad?
Internet? See above.
Price?To match netbook price, I have to buy office apps.each 10$. Can't transfer my files from flash drive so I can not work on them during business return trip-instead of seeing movies on ipad.
Better I stick to my iphone/ipodtouch and laptop.byebye ipad!
I can use iphone for emails. Even Ipodtouch is very nice with wiFi. So Y ipad?
Internet? See above.
Price?To match netbook price, I have to buy office apps.each 10$. Can't transfer my files from flash drive so I can not work on them during business return trip-instead of seeing movies on ipad.
Better I stick to my iphone/ipodtouch and laptop.byebye ipad!
agreed, I expected apple to do something like the lenovo u1, an elegant solution to a tablet and laptop system, whereas the ipad has a horrible klugdy cable adaptor thing for USB and memory cards.
no matter what I read about the ipad, it's still no more than a giant iphone or ipod touch designed as an appliance and not a general purpose computer - fine as a media player, phone and games device - media consumption but not creation.
no matter what I read about the ipad, it's still no more than a giant iphone or ipod touch designed as an appliance and not a general purpose computer - fine as a media player, phone and games device - media consumption but not creation.
That thing is sweet! Unlike apple, Lenovo has created a device that is actually useful! A real OS and a real keyboard!
You essentially get two machines in one, the base computer powered by a Core 2 Duo processor and the tablet running on a 1 GHz Snapdragon ARM chip.
Peeling the tablet from its shell requires a simple pull away from the translucent red backing, then upwards.
Once separated, the tablet switches into a custom, Linux-based operating system that, sadly, is pretty jerky. However, the product is six months out, and Lenovo says they want to boost the smoothness factor before release. Otherwise, the tablet mode is easy enough to navigate, with four big panels for photos, videos, music and documents. There?s also a six-panel screen that includes a variety of widgets, such as weather and e-mail.
It?s definitely possible to use both pieces at once, with the base plugged into an external monitor (or downloading files idly) while you browse away on the tablet. Put together, the computers combine resources, sharing storage and getting eight hours of battery life where the tablet alone gets less than five. Many of the other specs are up in the air, but you?ll definitely get 4 GB of RAM (512 MB for the tablet), 2 USB ports and a 1.3-megapixel Web cam.
Lenovo said they?re hoping to get the IdeaPad U1?s price under $1,000 for a May or June release.
Peeling the tablet from its shell requires a simple pull away from the translucent red backing, then upwards.
Once separated, the tablet switches into a custom, Linux-based operating system that, sadly, is pretty jerky. However, the product is six months out, and Lenovo says they want to boost the smoothness factor before release. Otherwise, the tablet mode is easy enough to navigate, with four big panels for photos, videos, music and documents. There?s also a six-panel screen that includes a variety of widgets, such as weather and e-mail.
It?s definitely possible to use both pieces at once, with the base plugged into an external monitor (or downloading files idly) while you browse away on the tablet. Put together, the computers combine resources, sharing storage and getting eight hours of battery life where the tablet alone gets less than five. Many of the other specs are up in the air, but you?ll definitely get 4 GB of RAM (512 MB for the tablet), 2 USB ports and a 1.3-megapixel Web cam.
Lenovo said they?re hoping to get the IdeaPad U1?s price under $1,000 for a May or June release.
Aw, man; that's just too sweet. For less than a grand? And Linux? See, this is -EXACTLY- what I expected the iPad would be.
Yeah it's an iPod touch on steroids...and has neat things that will amuse your for 10 minutes maybe. But I seriously beg to differ that this thing will compete with any eReaders. It is back lit ... no eInk. Talk about Eye Strain! If I wanted to read books on that type of environment I would use my PC or Laptop. I have a Sony Reader because of what it is.. a simple way to carry a ton of books around and read them comfortably. No one needs to pay $500 on this thinking it will be some grand eBook Reader. I guarantee it will fail in that aspect. I am so sick of hearing it will make a good reader because it won't.
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