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SarcMark may ruin the point of sarcasm

to emphasize sarcasm, you aren't doing it right. I don't see this taking off.

I'm with Comic Book Guy: "Oh, a sarcasm detector. That's a really useful invention!"

Fail.

Not that I generally need to use them, but sarcasm detectors are likely prone to destructive overload, even if somewhat less so than irony meters...

[NT]=No Text. Silly person.

although santee has a good point: sometimes is fun to watch the comment go screaming over the reader's head.

I won't be paying for this, and will refuse to acknowledge comprehension of its meaning if presented with it. Knowing my memory, it won't remain in RAM long anyway.

What's the point?

Well, no.

But I see the point of it. Of course the free version: will *always* be a thousand times more popular, but a few literary geniuses on this thread seem to have confused sarcasm (where there is some change in the voice to tell the listener that what is being said shouldn't be taken at face value) and lying, (where there is no change in the tone of voice).

Communication is never clear cut - it makes perfect sense to try and fill in the gaps sometimes. It (slightly) grates with me that a company is trying make such a such easy money out of it...

As such, sarcasm should be avoided in typed text unless you know it will be received in the correct context. Having a special symbol or font only serves to highlight the deficiency of the medium and even then the receiver of the text can not be assured of realizing your intent.

That said, I think there needs to be a better method of conveying said wit than a funky symbol that two parties have to purchase for $1.99 USD.

I don't see myself using it in a digital medium, but I like the concept. Perhaps on the written page I could include the mark, though I'd still have to explain it to readers.

I propose we exercise our sarcasm muscles / glands and help notetoselftomakeacoolalias with his project. How about:

Trollbait
Patsy
Wankanator

C'mon people, the newbie needs help!

Oh, and welcome to TR, whatever name you choose.

AntiPalmetto it is then.

Me either

Best when sarcasm slips in unnoticed.

Sometimes it's more fun to watch your "target" insert their foot in their mouth!

Besides, you could always use the pseudo-HTML tag " Sarcastic statement here
"
Well, shoot...the server is TRYING to decipher my HTML, enclosed in brackets above are "sarcasm" and "/sarcasm"...sheesh

Hehe...Wiz {;-)

You think?

I personally think this is lame and looks too much like "@". If someone needs to indicate an emotion, it's already designated by the writer in chat, such as "::sarcastic:: Yeah, Houston traffic is great!"

I looooovvvvvvveeeee me some Mass Effect and, in that game, there is a race called the Elcor. The Elcor have no ability to vocalize their statements other than in monotone, so the dialog even is along the lines of "[rebuking remark] You know that is not the way we are," "[gratitude] Yes, I am pleased", and so on. Yes, I'm sidetracking. The dialog is almost a spoof of that very kind of thing.

My point is this, why would I shell out 2 bucks to do what I can already do?

Weird.

The people that thought up this story are taking the peess out of the rest of us?

Is this Sarcasm on a higher plane? Recursive Sarcasm???

OMG we've been sarked!!!



edit: is that higher plane or higher plain?? OMG I've sarked myself! AAAArrrgghhh!!

I would almost bet that this is a marketing jujitsu.

Born from a sarcastic idea

You decide if one belongs in this post.

SarcMark.
Someone mentioned an Irony Meter
Next up:
Oxymoron Detector
Spoof Codex
Subtle Reference Search Engine

All to be taken care of by the Scaminator!

What happened to plain old honesty?
Do we have to be sarcastic? If we enjoy it as a literate toy, how far do we go in using it on mostly less literate users?
If I had to say I am going to be sarcastic now, I think then I am in the wrong place at the right time!
Regards,
Charlie

There, fixed your article for you.

... providing this service to millions of computer users worldwide for only $1.99 ctrl>

If there's one thing that angers me to the point of apoplexy, it's watching American TV (especially documentaries) where every 5 minutes the presenter feels the need to remind me what I'm watching. I do have a memory that lasts more than 5 minutes and find that these contant reminders (accepted, for an American Market, fair enough) are a really annoying turn off (often literally).

Now I'm expected to watch for a special mark to tell me when someone's being sarcastic? The day I cannot recognise sarcasm, however badly attempted, is the day I give up completely!

TV has long has a SarcMark; it's called a laugh track. Like sarcasm, if your jokes are so poor you need a cue to indicate you've told one, you need to consider rewriting them.

/sarcasm

I think I can find ways to indicate my sarcasm without having to pay $1.99. However, I will say this does highlight one problem of the text media which is that it is poor for conveying sarcasm since there is no tone or facial cues like with spoken language. Also worth noting that different people from different cultures might not have the cultural context to get sarcasm from someone from a particular culture. I do think that there are reasons sarcasm could be missed besides the density of the reader, but I don't think paying $1.99 for some foolish character is the way to solve it.

Sarcasm is the lowest form of humor.

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I thought that was unintentional puns?

are way more revealing of the punner.

Sarcasm is not common in other countries, I'm from Mexico but have lived in the USA for 20 years and have found it hard to make a sarcastic joke because it gets taken as literal.

Hell no!~ The SarcMark defeats the purpose. Besides people online have their own creative ways to express sarcasm, when it's necessary to point out such in the presence of a dense friend.

It's called a sarcasm tag, and it's usually expressed like this:

Oh, I totally love your ___ page![/sarcasm]

Note that it mainly looks like a closing BB tag, and you can optionally make it look like an html tag by using 's instead for extra geek points.

With this, there's no dang need to pony up $1.99 to a stupid greedy idiot who thinks he's invented something cool. This idea has already been considered, and the SarcMark is as pointless as ever.

Now, if it ever makes it into say...the unicode specification sometime in the future..then maybe it might see use. But that means the person will have to let people use it for free. XD

Most of the fun (for me) of using sarcasm is knowing the vast majority of those who read it will only catch the sarcasm if it's pointed out to them.

Sure, I'll use something to spoil my fun.

edit: increased sarcasm

OMG, WTF, and all that other stuff. I tink I will spend the money on a nice green tea. But I bet it becomes the "pet rock" of the current generation...X, Y, Z, B, D or what ever it is this time.

Like my wife always tells me, it's not funny if you have to explain it.

I think that this sounds like an EXCELLENT idea...

/s

I downloaded the SarcMark Software a couple weeks ago. It was free to download at www.sarcmark.com. I guess they're giving away the software now. Anyway, I use it all the time. I know a lot of people are skeptical about the idea. I tend to be more open-minded than most, so I use it.

That you, circularly, are more open-minded than most?

Don't nobody get away with nothing here.

[insert SarcMark here]