I know what you mean Steve. I felt exactly the same way. I have had and still have problems with various wireless cards. But then I rember the problems I had with windows 2000 and Orinoco/Lucent wireless cards. What really helped me to get to grips is I decided to set up a web site using OScomerce. Took me about 5 months and I enjoyed every head scratching bit of intrigue, exasperation, frustration and pride as well as gratitude at the patience, courtesy and can-do attitude of some on-line forum (various) regulars. A resource that really helped was Linuxformat magazine. Keep at it and I would be happy to lend a helping hand whenever you need some help and I I don't know then we'll research together until we find a solution. By the way. I remember Techrepublic was just as helpful to me in the days of transition from win 2000 and win95 through to 98 then XP etc. I remember that I used to feel the same about windows and the apple mac whenever I wanted to do a little more than just write a letter or add numbers in a spreadsheet. :-D