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A pattern?
mr_m_sween 11th Aug 2010
judging by #1,2,3,7,9,and 10 Mr. Norton dislikes mobile technology.

Honestly, aren't the only gadgets listed here the cell phone, the roomba, and the e-book?

Not saying I disagree with him mind you. Just not sure if a lot of the list actually are considered gadgets. (or in the case of the pager or speaker phone "High-Tech")
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Re: A pattern?
Alan Norton 11th Aug 2010
Leave it to an IT professional to find a pattern. happy

"judging by #1,2,3,7,9,and 10 Mr. Norton dislikes mobile technology."

Except for #9 I would agree with you. Perhaps my mobile device phobia would have turned out very differently if my first mobile devices didn't tether me to the job and trigger a negative Pavlovian response every time one beeped, rang or vibrated.

"Honestly, aren't the only gadgets listed here the cell phone, the roomba, and the e-book?"

You've got me there. 'Gadgets' sounded 'geeky' and I didn't want the title to be something like:

10 high-tech gizmos, gadgets, mobile devices, games and chips I can live without

Thank you for the feedback.
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You are Pwned
mjrogers@... 13th Aug 2010
Cell phones, laptops, PDA's etc were devised by corporate bosses to keep their employees working for them outside of what were once regular working hours.
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Ran out of time
mr_m_sween 13th Aug 2010
I meant to include my own list, but work caught up to me. Sorry if my post seemed overly critical.

I totally understand the pavlovian response, I have the same one from the same source.
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How could I complain about you being overly critical? You were right.

I appreciate you adding your voice to the mix.
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dad?
elrico-fantastica 12th Aug 2010
its like the old man has joined tech republic....

**Shudder**

he has the same gripes and reminds me constantly how people didnt used to need a box full of WhizzBangs to do an honest days work...

...and he used to walk to school, up hill both ways, in the rain... with only a candle for lunch
Should be:
And we liked it that way, too, dadgummit!"

OR
And we liked it that way, too, ya little whipper snapper!"

mcb
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OF will do
Alan Norton 12th Aug 2010
This is a generational thing for the most part, isn't it? I recognize three generations of technologists.

Gen 1: The mainframe generation
Gen 2: The PC generation
Gen 3: The mobile generation

I don't think it's necessary to be divisive though. I got along just fine with the mainframe generation and had a lot of respect for their skills, wisdom and experience.
Always there's going to be the elder and the younger. The elder mainframers were the ones who were mature adults when what they worked with slowly became computers. The younger were the ones who saw the computers emerge already as younger, some may have even pursued that work.
There are many similarities between them, but also differences.
Same with the other two, except that the younger PC generation may overlap more or less completely with the elder mobile generation... with some amount of abstentions either way.
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Only if you generalize. The PC gen could be anyone from 25-45. And what is the mobile gen? 10-15 yr olds?

And one more thing. Who still uses a beeper?!
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Many members of the medical profession like surgeons who are working.

People like that use beepers a lot right now as Mobile Phones are not a Option in their profession when they are in those positions.

Col
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well....
grrltechie 3rd Sep 2010
We do. I'm part of a hospital Help Desk that provides support 24/7/365. When I first started taking call cell phones were just not that common. Then we got a shared cell phone. Then we traded up for a wireless internet modem, since the hospital won't pay for our home internet. Nor will they pay for everybody a cell phone, so we each have a beeper and mostly all use our personal cell to call back in on.

I don't mind doing that, but I refuse to give my personal, paid for by me cell phone number out when I'm on call. If they can't get the official on call person they start going down the list til they reach somebody. So, yeah, no. I already cringe whenever the home phone rings, even when I'm not on call. I don't want to be that way about my cell phone too. (Pavlovian response is EXACTLY correct!)
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Alan you are still part of the younger generation. I come from the time when computing was a hand cranked mechanical calculator. I eventually graduated to a Commodore Pet 64kb and then an Apricot. Upgrading the Apricot with a hard disk gave me 21MB. Such an enormous capacity allowed me to make three partitions - 1 for programs, 2 for developing Basic programs and 3 for data.
I love the uphill both ways to school argument....because I did actually have to do that.

In college, my off campus apartment was just over the crest of a hill to school, So technically I did in fact have to walk uphill both ways (and downhill both ways) and since it was in upstate NY, a lot of the time there was snow.
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barefoot
santeewelding 13th Aug 2010
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You had feet?
bmwjason 16th Aug 2010
You had feet?
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We used to DREAM of having feet...
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My apartment was on the next hill over.

Also upstate New York. We might have met, but I doubt it. "Uphill both ways" pretty much describes NYS north of Peekskill. grin
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Temp in the shade of 98, heat index of 115 today where I live...this sux, of course. I did cook an egg outside last week just for the entertainment value. It did take 30 minutes to cook the egg.

I LOVE AIR CONDITIONING. I know that is not a 'green' statement...but it is accurate.
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A few more notes
Alan Norton Updated - 11th Aug 2010
These didn't fit into the article so I will share them with you here:

I am an analyst first, a programmer second and a geek third. The analyst in me can't help but recognize that the PC Generation would rather leave their technology behind on the desktop while the Mobile Generation would prefer to take their technology with them.

Item 1 - Examples of annoying cell phone behavior:

That fine upstanding young man talking on his smart phone in the library. Yes, it has happened more than once while I was at the library. They didn't seem to mind annoying the other patrons.

The lady who forgets to turn her cell phone off at the cinema show.

Item 5 - RFIDs: Can the day be far off when the following scenario becomes reality? You walk into a store. A scanner reads the tags on the paper money in your wallet or purse and knows how much you are carrying. The same scanner reads your credit card number and references the purchases you have made in the past week. Pictures of surf and turf and sounds of sizzling steaks are presented when the computer has determined that your last meal was six hours ago at exactly 12:34 PM. The scanner knows that the wife has three types of lipstick, two types of mascara, two brands of expensive perfume and four other makeup contrivances and sends marketing intended to steer her and the rest of the family in tow toward the cosmetics counter.

Item 10 - Please excuse my typos keyboard: These tiny keyboards and touch screen keys have led to a new syndrome, Blackberry thumb.

I will be popping in now and then to answer any questions and to participate when I have something intelligent to add.

Edit: Changed ? to '
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adapt or die
hmx 11th Aug 2010
at least for some of this. honestly ... pagers? this is 2010!
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Some might take a look at me and say I have already died. happy

Honestly ... pagers are still being used:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pager#Pager_use_in_the_21st_century
What's paper money, Grandpa?

I was actually thinking about hard currency just yesterday. Since we were married 27 years ago, my wife and I always saved pennies, nickels, and dimes in a cookie jar. We'd roll them just before a big trip, and for the first several years of our marriage we'd net over $100.

Over the last 10 or 15 years this annual / biannual ritual began yielding less and less. This weekend, we rolled change for the first time in three years and cleared about $38.

The difference is we don't conduct our transactions in cash any more. We use debit cards most of the time, Rarely have any paper money in our pockets to scan, and there's no small change left over. But we're actually saving more from the 'small change' source. With the bank rounding each transaction up to the nearest dollar and transferring it to savings, we're getting the quarters too. (No, this isn't our only source of savings.)
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