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        <title><![CDATA[Outsourcing is only effective is certain situations.]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[As we change our support model (adding more vendor support) and limited outsourcing, we still need to increase staff to handle users, problems, setup, replacements.  We have added a new person in November and are adding an additional low level computer tech this month.  Went from 450 to almost 600 users in the last year. Just saying outsourcing and the cloud has not been a proven solution for us in attempting to downsize.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Trauk]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2011 10:03:47 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Size of IT]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[IMHO - there is not much more to downsize here in IT- sure they will try but in the end it will cost more - with all of the outsourcing/offshoreing there still needs to be a handful of people who know what is going on - staff will be about the same or decrease slightly but that envelope will be pushed to see how much you can take away while still funtioning as a company - It all comes down to Money that is it and could care less about customer service or functionally]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[asics447]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Thu, 09 Sep 2010 06:04:11 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Interesting ...]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[I could see this happening ... but not by 2015.  Very interesting concept, though.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Thu, 09 Sep 2010 05:30:36 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[lets hope the decision makers]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[are not all so gullable and have spoken and understand the risks, costs, and problems involved]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Lamini]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Thu, 09 Sep 2010 04:37:49 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[hmm im going to trust my data to the cloud]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[no thanks. not every organization requires an internet connection, fortunately.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Lamini]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Thu, 09 Sep 2010 04:35:35 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[The &quot;Reliable&quot; Cloud Fantasy]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[I used to have this fantasy when working for a 100% in-house IT department, that outsourcing everything would make my life better.  Then I changed jobs.  Now I'm in an environment with outsourced everything.  Our line of business app provider has their own T1 into our location.  That's two point of failures and that has failed multiple times.  On top of that we get raped monthly for this (lack of) service.  We've been down more in the six months I've been here than in the six years at my previous place with our in-house systems.  Truth is that to cloud providers all their customers are is a number on a balance sheet.  If you could quantify how much they actually gave a damn about you and your business from a scale from 1 to 10, you would get a 1/X where X is their total number of clients.  To in-house IT, you are THE priority, not A priority.  In-house IT has a dog in the hunt, unless you're a big customer, outsourced IT could care less if you renewed.  You'll just be replaced by the next sucker.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[jmarkovic32]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 11:55:36 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Healthcare and Financial Services Industries...]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[It's difficult to &quot;cloud&quot; these industries...So hospitals will continue to have large IT staffs.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[jmarkovic32]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 11:38:07 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Barely watch tv even when I'm]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[allowed the remote.Heard of it though.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Tony Hopkinson]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 11:22:42 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Cold day in hell]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Sure they will ... when all of those cloud apps provide all of the functionality the company had with their in-house systems. This will happen the day that vendors fulfill all promises made to the users - in other words when hell freezes over.Cloud apps will reduce the need for support and implementation staff, but there will always need to be a technical person to help the technically clueless make it all work.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[four49@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 09:47:04 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Jeeeesus...]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[....It's no different on this side of the pond, though.Watch &quot;The IT Crowd&quot; much over there?]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[maclovin]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 08:46:37 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[No option for &quot;same size&quot; folks?]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[It's impossible to say what the future will bring. Do I think IT departments will be larger? Not really. Do I think IT department will be smaller? Maybe. It really depends on the use of the words larger and smaller. While it's likely that the group of people 100% within the IT department may be fewer other departments may take on functions that used to be the domain of IT or entirely new departments may be used in conjunction with the original IT department.I think it will be more common for &quot;split&quot; functionality in the future. One department that deals with the implementation of hardware, programing and back-end things. And another department that deals more directly with the end-user, internal tech support and day-to-today things like replacing monitors and keyboards.At the end of the day the number of people in the &quot;traditional&quot; sort of IT department may be smaller but I feel that the number (or percentage) of people in a given organization that should be considered IT will be the same. Hardware still breaks, users still need training, Murphy still strikes. The cloud doesn't change that, it just shifts the focus.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[jsaubert]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 07:17:29 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Lots]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[One place I worked at was still using a 286, not even an XT to run a critical piece of kit, 16 bit printer/vga card died and it cost them 50,000 pounds to replace it.....If it isn't broke, don't fix it, is okay as far as it goes, a better definition of broken would be good though.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Tony Hopkinson]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 06:58:53 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Six of one, half a dozen of the other]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Yes you can outsource application development, but you still need some inhouse management to make sure the application you want developed is what you get.At some point using the application will be part of the day to day operation (hopefully).Besides these boys aren't looking at outsourcing as easier, just cheaper. Usually they get promoted before the loss of inhouse( you knowing where a printer is, or me knowing what they want to print) becomes apparent.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Tony Hopkinson]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 06:52:46 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Toy Computers/OSes]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[I can't help myself, but....You mean Windows?Ahhhkay, that's it for me!]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[maclovin]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 06:19:18 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[THis is based upon assumptions....]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[THis is based upon assumptions that companies are upgrading all their systems on a yearly/bi-yearly basis.I can't count the number of people that are resistant to change, especially your average user. Also, people are afraid of IT in general.Until the older &quot;thinkers&quot; (CIOs, IT Managers) are retired and new ideas come in, it's not going to happen, especially not by 2015.I'd like to hear a poll on how many places still use systems based upon technologies that are older than 10 years....or a server older than 5 years.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[maclovin]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 06:16:28 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[The other half is true]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[App developers will be the ones outsourced. The hands-on techs will be around because the users want/need someone to look over their shoulder and show them what they did wrong.  Servers need to be physically checked periodically for overheating problems, cables and/or wireless nodes will need attention, computer/monitors... will require replacement and repair. The kind of work that requires a human presence interacting with other humans will keep the network people employed.  Apps can be outsourced much easier and with less disruption to the day-to-day operations.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[DimBulb]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 04:28:41 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Yes]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Sorry to bother you but if they put their apps in the cloud, you're out.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[m@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 03:12:03 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[well yes]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[I've been involved in various 24/7 systems over the years, working through various companies. Sysadmins and IT staff at clients come and go, people at the company building the systems come and go, one thing remains constant: calls (sometimes in the middle of the night) from someone I've never heard of: 'I'm the new person responsible for system XYZ, and the previous guy said you know a lot about it. Something broke, can you help me fix it? You can send us a bill for your time']]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[SomeContractor]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 01:59:54 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[RE: Poll: Will the average IT department be smaller in five years?]]></title>
        <link><![CDATA[http://www.techrepublic.com/forum/discussions/102-335673-3354761]]></link>
        <description><![CDATA[Yes, more focus will be on SME and process management]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[barbara-gilbert]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2010 18:31:40 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[RE: Poll: Will the average IT department be smaller in five years?]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[It all depends on what you mean by &quot;Much&quot;.  Very subjective statement and the results show that.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[colin.cruikshank@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2010 17:16:44 -0700</pubDate>
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