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Although I thought that anything traveling at the speed of light is, by definition, light??
So are these clever scientists converting matter into light, and back again?
If so, then tele-portation would be possible.
The logical issue with human teleportation using light, besides the obvious issue of data-integrity failures or packet loss leading to a gruesome death, would be that it would be possible to replicate anything, as the process could be recorded and played-back.
So an army of clones could be created quite easily.
So are these clever scientists converting matter into light, and back again?
If so, then tele-portation would be possible.
The logical issue with human teleportation using light, besides the obvious issue of data-integrity failures or packet loss leading to a gruesome death, would be that it would be possible to replicate anything, as the process could be recorded and played-back.
So an army of clones could be created quite easily.
The transportation is still destroying the person, then remaking them elsewhere
There goes my army of clones idea! World domination will hae to wait. Guess I'll be working on the robot army instead, duct-taping a laser pointer to a Roomba.
An army of "soulless" clones may just be what you need! No remorse, follow orders, no hesitation...where have we seen this type of army before? Hmmmm...sounds familiar...
Oh yes, Nazi Germany!!
Then again, maybe we don't want soulless clones for an army?
Oh yes, Nazi Germany!!
Then again, maybe we don't want soulless clones for an army?
And available on the web, no less.
http://www.webscription.net/chapters/1596061781/1596061781___3.htm
Not quite the same methods, but results in "soulless clones".
http://www.webscription.net/chapters/1596061781/1596061781___3.htm
Not quite the same methods, but results in "soulless clones".
God, doesn't anyone read good science fiction anymore?
Philip Jose Farmer's Riverworld series. Soul is indestructable, and moves instantaneously to rejoin the body that matches its pattern. PJF used it as a means of getting out of a locked box, and as a means for random transportation; but never really explored it as a genuine transportation methodology. The problem was the more times you did it, the weaker the attraction of the soul to the body.
Entanglement doesn't allow duping at the moment. Take two particles, entangle them, then try to take one particle and entangle it with another and you change its state, unentangling it from the first one.
Philip Jose Farmer's Riverworld series. Soul is indestructable, and moves instantaneously to rejoin the body that matches its pattern. PJF used it as a means of getting out of a locked box, and as a means for random transportation; but never really explored it as a genuine transportation methodology. The problem was the more times you did it, the weaker the attraction of the soul to the body.
Entanglement doesn't allow duping at the moment. Take two particles, entangle them, then try to take one particle and entangle it with another and you change its state, unentangling it from the first one.
No soul? Simple solution. Until they move the technology along, they could just use it to move IRS bureaucrats around, (or our future "government healthcare professionals,") at least until the technology evolves.
There's a no-cloning law in quantum mechanics. Essentially it isn't possible to make an identical copy of a quantum state. Hence, no clone army.
Light usually doesn't even travel at the speed "C". It slows as it goes through matter or gravitational fields (which are basically everywhere).
Light usually doesn't even travel at the speed "C". It slows as it goes through matter or gravitational fields (which are basically everywhere).
Is there anyway to do this without the decoder key I wonder? How much faster then light does the signal move, could we have live conversations with Mars?
That is, you can't use entanglement without creating the entanglement in the first place. And setting up entanglement in the first place is limited by the speed of light, but in practice, likely slower than light's top speed.
There is no "signal", entanglement is instantaneous "spooky action at a distance". Changing the state of one entangled particle instantly "affects" the state of the other.
There is no "signal", entanglement is instantaneous "spooky action at a distance". Changing the state of one entangled particle instantly "affects" the state of the other.
I assumed that anything traveling at the speed of light is, by definition, light.
So entanglement happens at slightly less than light speed. Which is a contradiction, since anything traveling slower is not light.
So entanglement happens at slightly less than light speed. Which is a contradiction, since anything traveling slower is not light.
A perfect vacuum gets you an average wavefront velocity of c . The speed of light in air or water (I mention media allowing transmission of optical wavelengths for experience one can relate to) is slower. If the speed of light was totally invariant, we wouldn't get all sorts of cool optical effects.
But ignoring that, entanglement for use in human endeavors also depends on actually setting up useful entanglements, so that whole process takes time in and of itself.
edit: Or, you may be thinking of the fact that if it isn't light, it can never propagate @ c.
But ignoring that, entanglement for use in human endeavors also depends on actually setting up useful entanglements, so that whole process takes time in and of itself.
edit: Or, you may be thinking of the fact that if it isn't light, it can never propagate @ c.
I thought nothing could go faster than the speed of light - am I missing something?
It is a weird (to us) property of the universe.
gravity, which seems to move far faster than light, if you want to melt your mind go here;
http://metaresearch.org/cosmology/speed_of_gravity.asp
http://metaresearch.org/cosmology/speed_of_gravity.asp
Go ahead and break your brain further.
http://staff.science.uva.nl/~erikv/page20/page20.html
http://staff.science.uva.nl/~erikv/page20/page20.html
"SPEED OF LIGHT" versus "LIGTH SPEED"
The creation of photons take place in pairs. Each pair has the same polarity or spin.
In 1964 John Stewart Bell - a Northern Irish physicist, and the originator of Bell's Theorem -hypothesized the idea that if you change the spin or orientation of one of the photons in a pair that the other photon would instantly also change its orientation or polarity.
At that time there was no technology to test this hypothesis. The scientific community by and large ignored this hypothesis.
However, as technology evolved this theory could be tested.
It was found to be true. Thus was born the concept of Quantum Entanglement, Non-locality or quantum non-local phenomenon.
What this means simply is:
Lets take the birth of our Sun as a frame of reference. Now lets choose any photon pair from this birth process. Until now, that photon pair has travelled away from the sun, in the form of light (at the speed of light), for 5 billion years.
The 2 photons in this pair could be millions of light years apart from each other.
If we now change the polarity of one of the photons the other photon will instantaneously change.
This is "LIGHT SPEED".
The big question is how and why does this happen.
* How does the one photon know that its twin photon has changed polarity?
* Why does the second photon also change polarity to be in harmony with the first photon.
The answer to this wake-up call to Stephen Hawkings can be found at the following link.
www.popsci.com/science/article/2010-03/computer-processes-faster-speed-light#comment-60212
The creation of photons take place in pairs. Each pair has the same polarity or spin.
In 1964 John Stewart Bell - a Northern Irish physicist, and the originator of Bell's Theorem -hypothesized the idea that if you change the spin or orientation of one of the photons in a pair that the other photon would instantly also change its orientation or polarity.
At that time there was no technology to test this hypothesis. The scientific community by and large ignored this hypothesis.
However, as technology evolved this theory could be tested.
It was found to be true. Thus was born the concept of Quantum Entanglement, Non-locality or quantum non-local phenomenon.
What this means simply is:
Lets take the birth of our Sun as a frame of reference. Now lets choose any photon pair from this birth process. Until now, that photon pair has travelled away from the sun, in the form of light (at the speed of light), for 5 billion years.
The 2 photons in this pair could be millions of light years apart from each other.
If we now change the polarity of one of the photons the other photon will instantaneously change.
This is "LIGHT SPEED".
The big question is how and why does this happen.
* How does the one photon know that its twin photon has changed polarity?
* Why does the second photon also change polarity to be in harmony with the first photon.
The answer to this wake-up call to Stephen Hawkings can be found at the following link.
www.popsci.com/science/article/2010-03/computer-processes-faster-speed-light#comment-60212
I, too, hear an alarm clock buzzing away.
http://nirmukta.com/2009/12/14/biocentrism-demystified-a-response-to-deepak-chopra-and-robert-lanzas-notion-of-a-conscious-universe/
Somewhat tangential, but it quacks just like the other duck.
http://nirmukta.com/2009/12/14/biocentrism-demystified-a-response-to-deepak-chopra-and-robert-lanzas-notion-of-a-conscious-universe/
Somewhat tangential, but it quacks just like the other duck.
My understanding is that the law isn't that nothing can travel faster than light but that nothing (except light) can travel at the speed of light.
So travelling faster than light is fine so long as you can work out a way of going that fast without going through the speed of light on the way.
So travelling faster than light is fine so long as you can work out a way of going that fast without going through the speed of light on the way.
It has all the traditional parts.
You just have to eavesdrop on the normal channels to get the key, so what's unbreakable about it?
You just have to eavesdrop on the normal channels to get the key, so what's unbreakable about it?
So besides eavesdropping the normal channels, you would need physical possession of the photon that is entangled. No other photon would work. So there is no sending the message onto its intended receipients.
And the data transfer occurs outside of space-time as we know it. It takes no time regardless of distance.
And the data transfer occurs outside of space-time as we know it. It takes no time regardless of distance.
does it say that intercepting the signal is useless without the key?
That alone suggests that the signal may end up in the wrong hands.
So, that's what I'm on about. There was just another thread about quantum crypto cracking, where they got the key off usual channels.
That alone suggests that the signal may end up in the wrong hands.
So, that's what I'm on about. There was just another thread about quantum crypto cracking, where they got the key off usual channels.
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