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        <title><![CDATA[Metro UI nice, but still lacking, and some stability issues]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Was a big fan of the Classic Windows Mobile because out of the box it did more of the tasks I needed than competing platforms.  I also disagree with you comment about software experiences.  Since I favored the 4&quot; devices, rarely used a stylus, and customized the today screen for my needs, and minimum input.  From a stability pov, I reset my iPhone 4, various touches, Android devices, and WP7 more often than any of the dozen or so Classic WM PDA's / smartphones I owned over the years.Although disappointed that MS threw the power users under the bus, I did buy a HD7 since I am a gadget enthusiast / geek / addict.  The Metro UI is indeed smooth, and slick.  Unfortunately for me, there are still too many missing features (user access to file system #1), and missing critical apps for this device to be my daily driver.  From a stability pov, it is not as stable as my old WM devices.  In the month and a half I have owned it, I have needed to remove battery twice because it froze, and nothing else worked.  In over 8 years using about a dozen Classic WM devices, I believe I had to remove the battery due to system freezes twice as well.  Let's see - twice in 8 years with a dozen devices, vs. twice in 1 1/2 months with one lightly used device?I have also experienced a delay for a few seconds when unlocking the screen after the unit has sat overnight.  I have called T-Mobile, but no solution.  I will try contacting MS direct.My initial problems aside, I do still believe MS has the opportunity to return to major player status in the mobile arena if they issue frequent updates, listen to early adopters, and return the power user features.  I switched to Android about 6 months ago when MS abandoned the power user, and it will take quite a bit to get me back in the MS mobile fold.  Still like Windows on the desktop / laptop, but they ceased being my favorite mobile platform when they abandoned the power users.I do wish MS luck because increased competition in the mobile arena benefits us.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[jimtravis]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Wed, 29 Dec 2010 09:58:47 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Fanboy alert!!! AOOOOOOGAAAAA!]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Anyone who uses the word &quot;fanboy&quot; is a fanboy that needs to be ignored. Apply ad infinitum.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[AnsuGisalas]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Tue, 28 Dec 2010 23:22:58 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Fanboy Alert!!!]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Anyone who uses the acronym &quot;M$&quot; is a fanboy idiot that needs to be ignored.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[jmarkovic32]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Tue, 28 Dec 2010 12:35:10 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[I will!]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[If I decide to go ahead with it, I'll let you know, thanks!J.Ja]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Justin James]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Tue, 28 Dec 2010 07:53:21 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[References for your predictions?]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[You wrote it as if it was predicted by Gartner or soemone, if so, pelase reference it.If not, and it is your prediction, please sate as well.Thanks]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[QAonCall]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Mon, 27 Dec 2010 10:39:51 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[I'm in, contact me.]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[I agree, and have an outline of what I would like to see etc.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[QAonCall]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Mon, 27 Dec 2010 10:32:09 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Solid start ? you must be joking.]]></title>
        <link><![CDATA[http://www.techrepublic.com/forum/discussions/102-339670-3402631]]></link>
        <description><![CDATA[Out of the 1.5mil &quot;sold&quot;, customers bought about 750,000.  Out of these, Microsoft &quot;bought&quot; 90,000 for it's employees, DELL bought 30,000 (replacing RIM). So, we are left with 630,000 in 6 weeks, or, 15,000 per day, which is 5% of daily , 300,000 Android/Iphone sales.Now, WP7 comes to Verizon, but so does the iPhone LTE/CDMA. Predictions are the Verizon will sell 8 Million iPhones in 2011, but only 150,000 WP7.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[levilan@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Mon, 27 Dec 2010 01:57:12 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[50 - really?]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[While that may be your experience,I hardly think 50 percent despise their Android phones. In my experience the despise factor is evenly divide among all the brands and no where near 50%. Now if you want to say 50% hate their carrier that I would agree with!]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Glastron]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Thu, 23 Dec 2010 12:24:04 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Many businesses are still using Palm OS , this may allow them to break free]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[As I mentioned elsewhere here, businesses generally take 3-6 months to complete the movile sales cycle.  Those are also numbers that your local retailer would never see as the devices are most often not available in retail outlets, most people haven't even heard of teh device manufacturers before.  Win7 will make headway through distribution channels that cater to enterprise verticals, such as medical, oil and gas, forestry etc.  How many HHP phones have you used or seen in yoru local retail outlet? Janam? symbol? Intermec?Many Enterprises are still using the PALM OS to fill the void or Win Mobile 605 Professional. Once they BEGIN incorporating WP7, which may take some time yet, there will be huge adoption from the business marketplace.Rugged manufacturers sell hundreds of thousands of units in enterprise markets that have steered clear of iphone and Android devices that just can't stand up to the environment or provide the sevurity and flexibility needed for mobile computing. I'd like to see what happens to an iPhone that is washed off with a caustic cleaner in a surgery or dropped from sscaffolding on a building site or even a warehouse floor. &quot;cleanup in aisle 6&quot; Those devices don't pass the most basic industry standards for being i-safe, impact resistant etc. but the companies that DO use such devices are still on Win Mobile or Palm platforms and will gobble up WP7, well by gobble up I mean start the 4-6 month sales process anyway, after the manufacturers start using it. It usually takes teh manufacturer at east a year to get the OS into a device once released. It's a bitch of a market to sell to, don't expect to see dollars right away as it takes a long time to sign the deals but they should make headway a year in.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Oz_Media]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Thu, 23 Dec 2010 11:44:39 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[True]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[then when you consider that Windows had a phone OS out out longer than Apple too, it's hardly a 'me too' experience  at all.I've sold business mobile for some years now and, while businesses have avoided iPhone like the plague, they are more apt to adopt a new Windows Mobile flavour.  Rugged device manufacturers, who really cater to enterprise only and not the average user on the street, will see great sales with WP7.  Companies like Janam, Motorola/Symbol, Intermev, HHP etc will see a lot more business now as their users have been holding firm with WMx for a long time, this will create an enterprise upgrade path that will see a lot of new devices go out.When you consider the 3-6 month sales cycle of businesses adopting such devices, one can't expect business numbers to even show up this early in the game.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Oz_Media]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Thu, 23 Dec 2010 11:36:44 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Good Idea!]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[So, after reading your initial post I thought you were just a hater.  After reading this post though, I think I understand better.  Unfortunately, I am pretty hyped up about Android (and WP7 to be honest) so your comments made me kind of sad.  Anyway, I hope you find a way to make that idea work because the tech community needs it!]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[jdr_03]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Thu, 23 Dec 2010 11:13:43 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Wow.]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Another person commenting on the failure of the phone without using one...  First off, Apple has made their computers cost 3x the amount of anyone else, so they can keep their iPhone.  Android is a good product, and the Android phones are only getting better.  As for WP7 phones, they are currently only being sold by a few amount of the carriers.  I don't know what the 2-4-1 comment was mean to imply (Androids are being offered for free, and WP7 phones have a bogo offer, so I am confused about what you meant?).  Anyway, WP7 looks to be solid, and when Sprint gets one I will most likely get one...  Of course, whether I return it or not is still up in the air!  WP7 bogo: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsphone/en-us/cmpn/buy-one-get-one.aspx]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[jdr_03]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Thu, 23 Dec 2010 10:49:29 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Wow.]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Um, I think you typed Android wrong in this sentence: &quot;I think Windows Phone is too much of a 'me too' product to be a proper success.&quot;Android and iPhone look very similar, WP7 looks unique compared to any other smartphone OS out there.  I am not saying it is a great product (haven't used one) but to say it is a &quot;me too&quot; product is just a way to say, &quot;I like fewer choices, and smartphones should only come in App-centric flavors.&quot;]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[jdr_03]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Thu, 23 Dec 2010 10:42:42 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[There's potential as long as MS doesn't drop the ball]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Since this phone is Microsoft based it has a big chance, I would imagine, of making a larger break into the business market than the consumer market.  If Microsoft built WP7 to integrate well with existing enterprise infrastructure - most of which uses Microsoft products, I think we could see this take the place of Blackberry as the enterprise smartphone of choice.  Then it's likely to grow out from there.  If I was part of this project at Microsoft I would spend time getting businesses on board to replace their Blackberrys.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[gunnarzdad]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Thu, 23 Dec 2010 09:38:04 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[A solid start? Really?]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[If WP7 phones are doing so well, why aren't they featured prominently in most stores? When you walk in to most cell stores, you see Android phones or iPhones. You have to look around to find the WP7 phones. Guess which phone is most likely to have a 2-4-1 (or some such) deal going on it? Oh, and talk to stores about customer return rates. The ones I talk to tell me that the return rates for WP7 are very high.The last thing I want is M$ doing for my phone what they did to my PC. They can keep their phones.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[lkarnis@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Thu, 23 Dec 2010 09:32:39 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Who are you people???]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[who are you people with such uneducated predictions?????]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Nsaf]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Thu, 23 Dec 2010 09:10:59 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Don't like the idea of Windows on my phone]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Firstly I don't like the way the interface looks. Plus having your phone boot into Windows just makes me shudder. I think Windows Phone is too much of a 'me too' product to be a proper success. Most people who've had Windows Mobile will avoid it like the plague, I can't see ANY iPhone users wanting to switch, and you get a much better choice with Android.So ultimately I personally believe it will be a minor player with maybe 10% to 20% market share, which for a company of Microsoft's stature will be seen as a failure.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[reggaethecat]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Thu, 23 Dec 2010 08:39:57 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[I've been thinking about trying to fill that void]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[There's an economic issue behind why you don't see reviewers do the follow up reviews: most reviews are performed with a loaner or demo unit; a &quot;long term&quot; review would require someone to actually purchase the phone, adding a $500 or so cost to create the article. To make it worse, reviews of products that have been on the market for a while is a &quot;long tail&quot; opportunity (I *think*), not a &quot;short tail&quot; opportunity. One would have to mine search engine data (or even data from something like CNET's reviews) to see if the traffic for products 1 - 12 months old is higher than the traffic from when the product was brand new.That being said, I think that there is a HUGE opportunity here, and one of my 2011 projects is to consider exploring it as a business model. My idea is to find people who are good tech writers and product reviewers already (like Jason), and instead of asking them to review new products that they got a demo unit of, to review products that they actually have owned and used for a period of time, a minimum of one month, and probably up to three months (anything older than that would be much less relevant).I am at the point now, where I trust very few tech reviews, because I've seen that:* The reviewer did not spend enough time with the product, and it is obvious if you look deep* Many reviewers do not cover anything but the most obvious features that are seen in the first five minutes, but the stuff that's important on a day-to-day basis is overlooked* A number of issues do not show up until a few weeks or even months afterwardsFrom people I've talked to, 50% or so absolutely despise their Android phones after owning them a few months, because of issues like bit rot and applications somehow wrecking base functionality, while reviewers universally love it at the OS level and only knock an Android phone at the hardware level. It is clear to me that the typical phone review is not something that I can make a purchase decision on, and from my experience in the industry, it's a direct result of the economic issues around a good review.J.Ja]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Justin James]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Thu, 23 Dec 2010 08:31:01 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Interesting..]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[I have asked in the past that Jason do a follow up on his intitial reviews, since it appears that some phones, as other computers, tend to lose some utility and performance.  I am not sure if it is truly a phenomenon or if this is just the user becoming accustomed to the 'system'.  My experience with android has been mostly positive, and my son and gf both love theirs.  I am on sprint, and they on verizon.  All HTC hardware.My observations lead me to believe that the market has to do a better job of forcing applications to notify you when they will:1) Start automatically on a restart2) Change any settings when they update3) Allow updates only by user action4) Allow rollbackI know android allows use to manage all these things, however, the fact that one of the most downloaded and useful utilities is a task manager, so you can KILL stuff you do not need/want running, has to be a clue?I find that after I go on a download spree, about 3-7 days later my phone is so slow, I have to go through and clear out applications, and get the phone back to my control, not a collection of random processes running for no apparent reason.Another option that a GOOD application would have is an option to always close on exit.For most of us, multi tasking is really about moving between applications, and the ability on your phone should be limited, or selectable within the applications.All that said, I love my phone, it has taken some time to learn the touch screen stuff, but overall I really do like the phone (and the 4g is awesome).I would however, like to get a W7P, just to 'kick the tires'.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[QAonCall]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Thu, 23 Dec 2010 06:39:38 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[RE: Solid start: Windows Phone 7 has decent sales and a load of apps]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[WinPhone7 appears to be getting a good start, if you ask me. It's late to the game, true, but it has some advantages over both Android and iOS of which it can really take advantage. As consumers get used to the new concept and as the enterprise gets a feel for how well it adapts to their Windows-based environments, I could see WP7 starting to pull people away from Android and back to a more stable and reliable system.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Vulpinemac]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Wed, 22 Dec 2010 18:25:19 -0800</pubDate>
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