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        <title><![CDATA[Without Microsoft there wouldn't an Apple.]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Apple and Microsoft might be the technological equivalents of chalk and cheese nowadays, but Microsoft???s involvement with Steve Jobs??? company in the early years probably saved the Mac from catastrophe. AppleSoft Basic was a Mac version of DOS licensed from Microsoft, and it???s an often-forgotten fact that Microsoft Office was released on Apple hardware long before it hit Windows ??? tacit admission, perhaps, of Apple???s early OS superiority. And, in 1997, Microsoft invested US$150 million into Apple at a time when its stocks were plunging. After the announcement, which included a commitment that Microsoft would continue to develop applications for Apple hardware, and that Apple would bundle Internet Explorer with all its systems, Apple???s stock rose nearly 35 per cent. Without Microsoft, it???s possible we???d never have had the iPhone at all.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Joe McCloud]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2012 17:58:59 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[I Picked Bill Gates...]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Say what you will about M$; it being a monopoly, shortsighted,bloated,monolithic,greedy, etc...I chose Bill Gates because his drive and desire to bring computing and related technologies to the forefront has forced the tech industry to a higher level of innovation and creativity.  Great software has been developed because of Windows' shortcomings.  Great software solutions have been developed because of Windows' brilliance. This really isn't a 'M$ is better than Apple' kind of thing, Steve Jobs in definitely a genius in his own right; but I see Gates' contribution to the tech industry far ranging and wider than Jobs' reach through Apple.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[C. Imanon]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Thu, 27 Jan 2011 17:51:26 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Perhaps you did not see the results of the vote so far]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[as the &quot;landslide&quot; goes the other way!]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[d_g_l_s@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Sun, 23 Jan 2011 20:32:50 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[DEC the Apple of it's day!]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Yup,DEC was ahead of the game in so many ways - operating system, networkable hardware, the first great search engine Alta Vista, RISC chips, worlds most powerful editor (TECO).I certainly miss that company - to be undone by bad marketing, accountant types, and a mere &quot;IBM-PC&quot; company in Compaq is the ultimate tragedy.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[SciHacker]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Sun, 23 Jan 2011 04:26:30 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Jobs reason....]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[I look at it this way, Put Jobs and Gates in the 17/1800, as lords and owners of the land.With Jobs/Mac products you have the choice to purchase or NOT and to abide by their rules.With Gates/Microsoft &quot;The Robber Barons&quot; here you had no choice you paid your taxes and they impose their will/ideas weather you liked it os NOT.Today...If you want a Mac you choose the model you want it is a complete soultion, the add the applications you require.If you choose a PC then the option gets blured, You have very little choice of O/S (MS) comes bundled with every system, you get a raft of bundled items and MS's 90 day trails you have to uninstall them if you dont want them, you then have to purchase the applications you wish to use.You, if you let MS, get locked into their 2 year redundancy cycle.This is why I choose white box Systems/Notebooks and load what I wish to use. MY CHOICE.My Computer, My O/S of choice, My applications of choice.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[carlsf@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Sat, 22 Jan 2011 12:15:20 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[I agree about Xerox and Bell Labs and Digital Research]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[I'd have to vote for Jobs - at least he had a product BEFORE he took other's ideas and software and made them his own. Gates &quot;bought&quot; DOS for next to nothing, and then took ideas from Xerox for windows.The Xerox Star GUI was introduced at Siggraph in 1980 - I remember - I was in the room.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[sandy@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Sat, 22 Jan 2011 08:46:08 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Are you serious?]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[I'm just writing this on a Windows machine, butwithout any problem would be able to move to Linux, OS-X, solaris, AIX, hpux, etc.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[PppL]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Sat, 22 Jan 2011 06:02:00 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[reInventing the Wheel]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Absolutely Right!Actually nearly all new inventions of the wheel at Microsoft and Co. are coming (5-15 years later) from good old firms like Xerox, IBM, DEC...]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[PppL]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Sat, 22 Jan 2011 05:39:34 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[All about SW design]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[The same time when windows came to the market mainframes did their job fine with 64K to 256K memory...]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[PppL]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Sat, 22 Jan 2011 04:57:05 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Porshe or Trabant]]></title>
        <link><![CDATA[http://www.techrepublic.com/forum/discussions/102-340509-3411628]]></link>
        <description><![CDATA[I agree with Dimitri915.Surely Steve is the innovator...and the artist.All of you forget about DESIGN!We are talking about PERSONAL computers, and their OS. My 10 years old Titanium-Powerbook-G4 (1GHz) is simply beautiful, and still working fine with OS-X Tiger. I hope Apple will never drop this tradition.Up to XP MS Windows was just a frustrating crap. Even OS/2 was much better. Actually the NT core is from DEC. I had less problem with ten-thousands of various Unix machines (clusters, and greeds) of a global enterprise world-wide, than my so called Windows PCs.Positive: Steve and Bill brought computers to the broad public. Steve showed us that a computer can belong to the final art category as well.Negative: Bill sold us junk-food, and blocked innovation. Both of them sell us products overpriced.Finally:Windows 7 starts to behave as a real operating system - I start to like it - however I still prefer OS-X.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[PppL]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Sat, 22 Jan 2011 04:48:45 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Maybe write some app for it]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[That App just happened to be MS Office.  Word, Excel, Powerpoint, and Access got their sea legs on a Mac, not Dos.. (Per my Ancedote...)]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Animal13]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Fri, 21 Jan 2011 19:24:44 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Do you really believe Microsoft would have produced Windows...]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[... without Apple announcing their plans about it first? You forget that PARC invited both Gates and Jobs to look at this 'new' concept. Gates turned it down. Gates agreed with Xerox at the time that a GUI would never work as a computer interface. Then again, Gates also believed 640 KBytes was all the RAM a PC would ever need.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Vulpinemac]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Fri, 21 Jan 2011 16:43:48 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Without apple - there would still be windows]]></title>
        <link><![CDATA[http://www.techrepublic.com/forum/discussions/102-340509-3411539]]></link>
        <description><![CDATA[Anybody remember Framework from Ashton-Tate?It ran under DOS and made windows of the applications and you could easily transfer spreadsheets to word docs to presentation docs to databases and you write macros in their programming language called FRED.  Gee - how far we have advanced! ]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[spaul940]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Fri, 21 Jan 2011 13:34:53 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[RE: Poll: Has Steve Jobs or Bill Gates made the greater contribution to tech?]]></title>
        <link><![CDATA[http://www.techrepublic.com/forum/discussions/102-340509-3411484]]></link>
        <description><![CDATA[Jobs, not only need we consider Apple, but NeXT as well.  Such a wide array of technology firsts!  There is no question, however, that Gates has done MUCH too.If I had any choice, I would choose two other individuals, though, Edison and Atinasov!]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[edgar.kline@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Fri, 21 Jan 2011 11:42:31 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[The Woz]]></title>
        <link><![CDATA[http://www.techrepublic.com/forum/discussions/102-340509-3411476]]></link>
        <description><![CDATA[I agree too! The Woz was the Brains behind Apple..Steve is the Face of Apple. Bill copies, steals ect!..]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[mycya4me@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Fri, 21 Jan 2011 10:44:56 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[I find it interesting..]]></title>
        <link><![CDATA[http://www.techrepublic.com/forum/discussions/102-340509-3411475]]></link>
        <description><![CDATA[..that the poll shows Jobs at @ 33% (at the time I voted) in spite of the fact that A) this site tends to be pretty highly biased against anything Apple, and B) as so many here like to point out, that Apple makes up less than 20% of the market.  When you couple those two together it's pretty amazing that &quot;Jobs&quot; would rate as high as he has in this poll (here on this site).]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[BBaldwin803]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Fri, 21 Jan 2011 10:37:18 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Poll: Has Steve Jobs or Bill Gates made the greater contribution to tech?]]></title>
        <link><![CDATA[http://www.techrepublic.com/forum/discussions/102-340509-3411467]]></link>
        <description><![CDATA[Tough call, but I voted Bill Gates. Steve Jobs and Apple have been more creative, but Microsoft (despite Jason's comment on overpricing) really made computing affordable and put it into the work place. Kind of like Henry Ford -- Microsoft didn't invent the computer, WYSIWYG or a lot of other things, they just helped make it more affordable for the masses. I know, we have to credit the hardware makers that run MS stuff as well, but they weren't an option here.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[BrucePurcell]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Fri, 21 Jan 2011 10:32:37 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[How many MACS do you have in your Data Centre]]></title>
        <link><![CDATA[http://www.techrepublic.com/forum/discussions/102-340509-3411474]]></link>
        <description><![CDATA[But you must forget that Virginia Tech created the 11th most powerful super computer with a couple hundred G4 based Mac desktops.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[mycya4me@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Fri, 21 Jan 2011 10:32:12 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Steve Jobs innovates; Bill Gates borrows]]></title>
        <link><![CDATA[http://www.techrepublic.com/forum/discussions/102-340509-3411473]]></link>
        <description><![CDATA[Yes it starts with Steve.. The GUI and the Mouse (created by Xerox -and Steve bought the Rights) the 3.5 inch floppy, the USB and Firewire standard, Not having a Floppy.ect..Bill .. copies, borrows, steals (look at Windows 3.11- He had to release 3.11 because of code/software within windows 3 he had not paid rights to use)]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[mycya4me@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Fri, 21 Jan 2011 10:23:17 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[I agree]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Steve and the Woz is who started and brought the GUI to the world (which was created by Xerox).. Bill copied it from a demo unit of the Mac that Steve loaned him to just maybe write some app for it.  That is the reason Microsoft is always trying to &quot;Catch up to Apple&quot;]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[mycya4me@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Fri, 21 Jan 2011 10:12:59 -0800</pubDate>
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