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I'm curious about this myself. WSUS is a separate standalone piece of software. We've been using it on SBS 2003 for years. We are on the WSUS 3.0 SP2 already. Other than it being pre-packaged in the installation of SBS 2011, I don't see the big deal on this. Even if they don't pre-package it with Essentials, I can't imagine they explicitly stop you from installing it separately. If they do, I need to know that because it will make Essentials useless for us. (We have several SBS 2003 servers but were recently forced to move their e-mail to a contracted 3rd party hosted Exchange for legal compliance. The time to upgrade these servers is coming and we were wondering what to do now that we no longer needed Exchange on the local server. We could do just regular Windows Server Standard, but we like the simplified wizards with SBS, and the remote desktop web interface that SBS provides for the users, and for us to remotely access the SBS server. So I was thrilled to see Essentials now, but I'm partially afraid it will over-simplify things more than we want. I've got the Essentials Release Candidate demo so plan to play with that.)
11. It continues to support 75 users only.
12. There is no more SBS break available - you need to purchase all the licenses for the components and CALs. Go anywhere near 75 users and you may shut it down and use it as a (virtual) brick. Plus, there is no longer an upgrade available from the older versions since MS changed - again - the licensing "model" to Open License and Open Value and SW Assurance and other weird concepts with strange implementations making a miserable life to anyone trying to understand what the heck is he paying for.
12. There is no more SBS break available - you need to purchase all the licenses for the components and CALs. Go anywhere near 75 users and you may shut it down and use it as a (virtual) brick. Plus, there is no longer an upgrade available from the older versions since MS changed - again - the licensing "model" to Open License and Open Value and SW Assurance and other weird concepts with strange implementations making a miserable life to anyone trying to understand what the heck is he paying for.
There is no reason whatsoever to use this word in computing. It's use implies forcing a gap to insert something else. This is never the case.
In section 3 "leverage" should be replaced by "run". I've never "leveraged" my applications, but I have run them.
In section 6 and 10 "leverage" should be replaced by "includes".
Let's cut the use of nonsensical words in computing.
In section 3 "leverage" should be replaced by "run". I've never "leveraged" my applications, but I have run them.
In section 6 and 10 "leverage" should be replaced by "includes".
Let's cut the use of nonsensical words in computing.
Reading Microsoft's comparisons it seems that SBS Essentials doesn't include Exchange. It only states using cloud technologies. Is that correct? Even with a SOHO some email functionality is needed.
Essentials doesnt include Exchange because they want these very small companies that would use this to use cloud emails services, such as Microsofts own hosted exchange mail service. it would mean that you could go with cheaper hardware as you dont need 4-10GB RAM for exchange.
You can add a regular Windows Server to an SBS domain, or you can add Foundation if you qualify (15 user max). You don't have to get the SBS Premium Add-on unless you benefit from SQL.
What are those of you whom are implementing SBS for your customers using for SPAM filtering?
I have used Sophos Security Suite Small Business Edition on both SBS 2003 and SBS 2008. It seems to work well with Exchange and is a good AV solution too.
Hosted anti-spam all the way! I have used several different anti-spam solutions in the past and they are all a pain. I used to find IMF worked ok, but in the last 12 months or so heaps of spam seems to get through, which is a problem since you get virtually no configuration options.
We use a hosted anti-spam (we're in Australia and use Firstwave). It is nothing short of brilliant. I get maybe 4 spam items hit my Inbox each year. It costs about $30/mailbox per year which for the customers I look after (typically 25 users) is cheaper than me managing something. Having hosted also means that there is no chance of users getting virus attachments in emails, and it takes some load off the servers. I thoroughly recommend getting a hosted solution.
We use a hosted anti-spam (we're in Australia and use Firstwave). It is nothing short of brilliant. I get maybe 4 spam items hit my Inbox each year. It costs about $30/mailbox per year which for the customers I look after (typically 25 users) is cheaper than me managing something. Having hosted also means that there is no chance of users getting virus attachments in emails, and it takes some load off the servers. I thoroughly recommend getting a hosted solution.
For our setup (on the advice from the 3rd party setting it up) we are replacing GFI with Barracuda Firewall 100. I'm assured it's competent, but in terms of configuration , working with AD (you need the much more expensive Firewall 300 for that), and user operarion/experience GFI Mail Essentials/Mail Security is superior but perhaps I'm just resistant to change.
On the plus side, the Barracuda is a small (no user serviceable parts) rack box that just needs plugging in - though I have read it turns into a brick if you stop paying for the updates/licence.
On the plus side, the Barracuda is a small (no user serviceable parts) rack box that just needs plugging in - though I have read it turns into a brick if you stop paying for the updates/licence.
May have the all new Exchange 2010 with OWA and "improved Microsoft Exchange Management Console " (read - new way of working that splits everything into two separate areas. Including no more integration with the AD interface - eg add user (AD), add mailbox (EMC) but its not a way to upgrade your users to the same version of Outlook.
I'm having trouble figuring out what you're trying to say, but I take it you don't like the decoupling of ADUC and Exchange? This is a logical step from a software development point of view, but I agree it was convenient. SBS is fine though, since it provides the SBS Console which is the place where you now set up users, and it creates the user in AD and creates their mailbox in the one step, just like ADUC used to in 2003.
I'm totally unsure what you are saying about Outlook. There has never been such a thing as an Outlook CAL; it's an Exchange CAL. SBS CALs include the Exchange CAL (except for Essentials, which doesn't use Exchange). This all has nothing to do with upgrading all users to the same version of Outlook. That's like upgrading your web server software, then complaining because it didn't upgrade all your web site viewers browsers to IE9.
I'm totally unsure what you are saying about Outlook. There has never been such a thing as an Outlook CAL; it's an Exchange CAL. SBS CALs include the Exchange CAL (except for Essentials, which doesn't use Exchange). This all has nothing to do with upgrading all users to the same version of Outlook. That's like upgrading your web server software, then complaining because it didn't upgrade all your web site viewers browsers to IE9.
What I was trying to get at was that some installations of SBS are in workplaces with collection of workstations bought at different times with OEM installs of office and hence different versions. The inclusion of an Outlook licence with SBS meant that at least there was only one version of Outlook to support.
I know the intention is that OWA is supposed to be so good that you don't really need Outlook but it really isn't. (there may be a way of setting sharing on selected folders from OWA but I haven't found it yet.)
Of course some of this may be me adapting to the change....
I know the intention is that OWA is supposed to be so good that you don't really need Outlook but it really isn't. (there may be a way of setting sharing on selected folders from OWA but I haven't found it yet.)
Of course some of this may be me adapting to the change....
I want to install Windows SBS Standard 2011.
I have two servers.
One server A, I install Premium Add-on and run Hyper-V to host Windows Standard SBS 2011 in a VOSE and second instance of Premium Add-on in VOSE.
On Server B, I install a second purchased copy of Premium Add-on joined to Windows SBS Standard 2011 domain hosted on Server A.
Can I run two instances of Premium Add-on in my Windows SBS Standard 2011 network?
I have two servers.
One server A, I install Premium Add-on and run Hyper-V to host Windows Standard SBS 2011 in a VOSE and second instance of Premium Add-on in VOSE.
On Server B, I install a second purchased copy of Premium Add-on joined to Windows SBS Standard 2011 domain hosted on Server A.
Can I run two instances of Premium Add-on in my Windows SBS Standard 2011 network?
Ignoring the virtualisation for the moment, it sounds as though all you want to do is run one server with SBS 2011 and have a second joined to the SBS domain. That's fine - the SBS 2011 Standard license gives you the right to install SBS on server A, and the premium add-on includes a copy of Server Standard 2008 R2 you can install on server B.
There's no need to purchase two instances of the premium add-on (and even if you wanted to add in a new server, you would just purchase a retail copy of Server Standard rather than buying a second copy of the premium addon).
Now to deal with the virtualisation aspect. I don't know all the ins and outs of Hyper-V, but my understanding is that the 1+1 rights let you install Hyper-V on server A, then install Windows on top of that.
There's no need to purchase two instances of the premium add-on (and even if you wanted to add in a new server, you would just purchase a retail copy of Server Standard rather than buying a second copy of the premium addon).
Now to deal with the virtualisation aspect. I don't know all the ins and outs of Hyper-V, but my understanding is that the 1+1 rights let you install Hyper-V on server A, then install Windows on top of that.
Thank you for the great help in understanding the Small business server support
and i am happy to be a part of this community.
and i am happy to be a part of this community.
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