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Hey rastr,
thanks for your input... very objective. I do understand that people develop habits even without being in the same place for a long time. What I meant is that as much as people want to make changes to things they know deserve a make-over, it's not easy to do so and actually it's easier to patch what they have than it is to shape something new.
Contrary to what you state, these guys don't think they know the company, they DO know the company precisely because of their staying for so many years dealing with the business issues and crafting the solutions to those issues. But they realized long ago that a change must be implemented, however, they are so trapped in their own old design that they don't see the way out. What I'm already suspecting is that even if they know the way out, they want to be the protagonists of such changes, but since they are so stuck in their own web, they don't allow for someone else, especially a new employee (not a rooky), to be the force driving the changes.