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Apple's next frontier: Your data

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meh

And their "what people don't know won't hurt them" attitude towards gathering personal information. Apple in the cloud is a frightening thought, but we already have Facebook spewing peoples personal information, so how is one more spewing service going to hurt things?

but I haven't talked to my Mac clients yet.
They may have a different mindset.

You mean your Mac clients wouldn't consider cloud-based storage before, but now that Apple offers it then it's an option?

The Apple - faithful

I saw this somewhere in my travels today.... Thought it was funny... And relevant to your comment....

Excerpts from the Book of Jobs:

And lo! The Steve did take the stage and make the following miraculous predictions:

That Apple would roll out a new version of every product that its followers just bought six months ago, forcing them to upgrade;

That Apple would continue to include a camera in every iphone which is at least two generations behind any other camera phone on the market;

That Apple's itunes songs, when purchased, would always remain invisible on any other mp3 player in the world..

That Apple and Flash would never get along;

That batteries would always remain a hidden sanctum to be touched only by technicians in the great Fortress of Apple;

That expandable memory would continue to be a taboo subject...

Yet still, the audience did swoon and caper

And behold, The Steve did grin mightily.

i am particularly interested in an article i read regarding apples offer, with the new cloud implementation, of allowing you to upload your "pirated" mp3's for a nominal fee of 25 dollars a year. How do they define or identify "pirated". Is any thing i rip from a cd considered pirated?

... you can't. You can provide a moratorium. Apple may have just persuaded the industry to do that, don't knock it, see the benefit and if there are less pirates, the cost may just decrease ...

as i said above

but I know my brother is too cheap to pay for cloud storage, if he can get it free. He is a Mac fan BTW. He has nothing that is not Apple in his house or office - He is totally Mac oriented. The only reason he has any Windows at his lab, is the fact that Windows is the only way to control 95% of the automation in manufacturing and other industries.

Otherwise even his learning center is totally Mac(Apple). Yeah, he's a Mac fanatic of the first order, but he isn't the only one I know.

and the conclusion is, most people who use Macs ...

Why would I trust Apple not to mine MY data when they SECRETLY copy all my movements and locations to sell to "land sharks" (my name for telemarketers). I would trust Apple to keep my data safe and PRIVATE about as much as I would trust a Great White to avoid an injured seal in the water.

I am going to pay Apple $30/year to make money on my information. Win Win for Apple

you pay USD 100.00 (1T) for a new disk and then a second USD100 (1T) for a second and spend forever trying to get the data back.

Grow up, use computers to add value not cost money ..

How do you compare two 1TB hard drives to iCloud?
iCloud is not really storage as much as it is an index of what you own which it can rebuild on another device. The process of copying what you own to a new Apple device will be more cumbersome than copying what you own from your laptop to a microsd card and putting the card in your non-Apple phone or tablet.
and I'm not sure why I have to grow up

why use anybodies cloud. I think you need to rethink you similes also. Great Whites and Injured Seals don't draw a parallel.

If you used a Mac it may have suggested this. This is a Mac speaking.

Unless you're making an arch pun that's over my head....

When I read that last sentence, I thought "But surely, Amazon, Google and others have already solved the technical issues of how to do Cloud? So why should Apple find it any more problematic?". But then, I guess its because you're talking mainly about personal individuals' unstructured data, and not so much about Business requirements. In the Personal Computing domain it is a problem because they'd be competing against free. In any case someone with their own computers and devices, who is capable of copying a file, doesn't need the Cloud (or needs it like a hole in the head). And a somewhat incompetent rip-off merchant like Apple actually doesn't stand a snowball in hell's chance, unless people have got more money than sense.

It reminds me of the old saying "Watch your money go up in smoke."

Stupid Apple Zombie... they need Brains, Brains...

Apple just loves re-marketing......Lets all call it the cloud.. I've got a new product called "Mist" made in Scotland.

A dark iCloud would be cool but I prefer the white.

That's probably the only thing going across the followers' mind after the presentation...

sounds a bit racist.

Seriously, what's with Apple customers' obsession with white iDevices?

When the marketing department starts pushing colors, you know a product has reached everyone who NEEDS a widget; now we're targeting those who WANT one.

Frankly, I think the white frame on the iPad 2 produces glare around the screen image. That's why you don't see many white framed monitors or tv's outside of Apple.
The white iPhone was delayed because it produced a halo around images taken on the camera. Why would anyone want one?
That's why athletes put on eyeblack and white horses get black tattoos around their eyes.There's too much glare.
White is ok if it works but white so that others identify it as an exclusive item is plain stupid.

and jack the price way up with the sales pitch that they would be limited edition, and collectors items someday! HA!

Hell, how exclusive can it be when they sell them retail? You don't need a Secret Membership Card or know the iHandshake to buy one.

It's not like other manufacturers are barred from using the color. My Samsung MP3 player is white; it was the only color of the model I wanted that Best Buy had in stock that day.

you couldn't get it for almost an entire year. Do you remember when only Apple employees were seen with white iPhones? Do you remember when Apple just kept saying, "The white iPhone is coming soon."? In the meantime folks who purchased iPhone 4's early on had to get a black one. Then they got stuck in a contract where they would have to pay full price to switch it to white. "Oh, mine is newer because it is white." ( adding to the mystique of exclusivity)
Do you remember the entrepreneur who figured out how to buy the white iPhone shell at wholesale and offered to install it on people's black iPhones? Apple shut him down pretty quickly.
It WAS exclusive and people fell for the hype. It is no longer exclusive. I still don't understand why people fell for it.

"Do you remember when only Apple employees were seen with white iPhones? Do you remember when Apple just kept saying, "The white iPhone is coming soon."? ... Do you remember when only Apple employees were seen with white iPhones? Do you remember when Apple just kept saying, "The white iPhone is coming soon."?"

Nope. I wasn't interested in the device, so I didn't keep up with the colors. I've only recently become aware of this obsession.

"In the meantime folks who purchased iPhone 4's early on had to get a black one. Then they got stuck in a contract where they would have to pay full price to switch it to white. ... I still don't understand why people fell for it."

That makes two of us.

I don't think this is a good idea.. I'd rather call it an indirect of Compromising data by apple, which will give them more a adherent serenity for profiling customers using their data.

Why Should You Trust Apple ?
What gives them the qualities to be trusted and relied on when they're secretly , monitoring your location, it'll now be your own personal data.

Apple iCloud = Shooting Yourself with a gun on the Leg!

Dear MobileMe member,

We'd like to share some exciting news with you about iCloud ??? Apple???s upcoming cloud service, which stores your content and wirelessly pushes it to your devices. iCloud integrates seamlessly with your apps, so everything happens automatically. Available this fall, iCloud is free for iOS 5 and OS X Lion users.

What does this mean for you as a MobileMe member?

When you sign up for iCloud, you'll be able to keep your MobileMe email address and move your mail, contacts, calendars, and bookmarks to the new service.

Your MobileMe subscription will be automatically extended through June 30, 2012, at no additional charge. After that date, MobileMe will no longer be available.

When iCloud becomes available this fall, we will provide more details and instructions on how to make the move. In the meantime, we encourage you to learn more about iCloud.

"Yet still, the audience did swoon and caper
And behold, The Steve did grin mightily,..."

...yea, all the way unto the bank.

In the beginning, the techno-geeks created PC technologies that the common man could not understand; and man struggled...

Then the geeks created applications for business; and man struggled...

Then two of the chosen ones created the GUI (with the help of PARC); and man was intrigued...

Then the internet was created; and man saw purpose...

Then compression algorithms were invented; and man started to communicate with fellow man...

Then personal music players were invented; and man wanted music everywhere...

Then camera phones were invented; and man took pictures of everything...

Then the smartphone with video were invented; and man took videos of everything in sight to share on the internet...

Then cheap external disc storage was invented; and man put files all over the frickin' place, man was not happy...

Then techno-geeks invented internet solutions trying to gather all of man's crap into a single location; and common man learned it did not work easily...

Then manufacturing efficiencies enabled man to have multiple personal and business devices connected to the internet; and man was frustrated that one device could not easily share with another device...

And behold, the Steve invented iCloud and made it EASY for the common man to share his beloved photos, videos and music without the techno-geek!

Long live the Steve!

A for fanboi-ism, but A+ for creativity

Ahh....the good ol' days of OS 9!

"In an outage, it won???t be able to act like it did with the iPhone 4 antenna issue or the recent Mac malware problem, where Apple hung back for a long time before even acknowledging the problem and then talking about a fix. In short, if Apple becomes a major cloud provider, it???s going to have to change its ways."
Translation: "These aren't the droids you're looking for."

The Google service that allows you to store all your personal medical information, records, etc on thier site for other doctors to access, etc. If I did shots of Jack Daniels all night I wouldn't come close to making the decision to allow ANYONE access to that information without my consent! I do not have an iTunes accont or any Apple products period. I don't have anything except a $10 Tracphone and that's it. I believe in molding the technology available to your needs and not just grabbing the first new thing out there because it's hip. I would still use a Commodore64 if it performed the functions I needed.

you can just forget the whole lot

Commodore64 enthusiasts are modifying the old venerable to do fantastic things now. Maybe your dream will come true!