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        <title><![CDATA[those were the days]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[I remember the first PC we got in the house, it used these 10inch or so floppy (no joke!), had no hard drive and barely any memory. Took ages to load up those disks and it usually ended up being bad and not booting up, nowadays when our PC or  Android Tablet take over 20 secs to boot, we get impatient]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeffrey1980]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2011 09:49:45 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Again, not true!]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Lots of businesses did use them as &quot;normal business tools&quot;.  Dozens of machines running CP/M was were well established in the business marketplace, with several major accounting and data packages available (some of which are still out there today; At the time, CP/M was regarded as the &quot;business&quot; OS)  In fact, CP/M-86 was one of the operating system choices for the IBM-PC (there were 3 choices in addition to PC-DOS) because of the vast amount of business software already available on that OS.Apple was also well established in the business segment.  People bought Apple][s by the millions just to run VisiCalc, which was revolutionary because for the first time ever it was possible for ordinary business people, engineers, and other professions to program and run complex models in real-time without access to a mainframe.Again, IBM was late to the game.  By 1982, business was well in play.]]></description>
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        <pubDate>Thu, 18 Aug 2011 05:49:22 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[I agree]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Prior to the launch of the IBM PC, very few businesses used PCs as normal business tools, they were mostly used in accounting and research.  After the launch, PC sales went exponential, because the IBM name made people take them seriously.  Which is why IBM was the beginning (not the first) of the computing lifestyle.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry ZA]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Wed, 17 Aug 2011 14:47:13 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[I agree...the start of the &amp;quot;R&amp;quot;evolution]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[I had been using my Osborne1 for months before my friend got his PS 5100 hot of the line. and it was arguabley the start of the (trans)Portable revolution...]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Lawrenh]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Wed, 17 Aug 2011 13:16:18 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Not true by a long shot.]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[PCs as useful business tools were comparatively well established by the time the IBM-PC hit the marketplace.  (Hence the rush to get the PC to market)  In fact, Time Magazine's &quot;Man of the Year&quot; was &quot;The Computer&quot;, mere months after the release of the first IBM-PC.What IBM did was make it safe for middle-management-types in large companies to submit purchase orders for these new-fangled machines that the IT types of the moment had yet to take seriously.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[JohnMcGrew@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Wed, 17 Aug 2011 12:41:34 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[DOS vs. CP/M]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[CP/M was the operating system of choice. Really came to fruition with the VisiCalc application. Gates was licensing this Basic Interpreter to IBM. they knew they needed applications to be built for the platform. Gate was it. According to a history in Wiki, Gates quickly bought the rights to QDOS and then licensed the OS to IBM. That's after the owner of Digital Research dissed the folks at IBM in favor of a nice long vacation. that's while they were negotiating an NDA of some sort.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[cfhenrickson@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Wed, 17 Aug 2011 12:33:02 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[IBM 5100 series..]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[In the early eighties, I worked with a techie to install the first IBM 5100, in aTravel Agency I was working with in Massachusetts. Using thier version of Business Basic, I was able to create a complete Invoicing, Itinerary and ticketing system for them. It was difficult at fit because I had never use Basic before, being a mainframe COBOL analyst. It woked out and they used the system for a number of years and in fact had it upgraded to four disk drives and then to a 5120 unit.Those were the days of consulting until 3:00am and getting back up at 7:00am to go to my full time job.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[lanka001]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Wed, 17 Aug 2011 10:48:31 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[IBM Reliability]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[I leased an IBM 1130 which used a cartridge drive (big floppy) and you could not transfer the cartridge between similar units without an IBM engineer adjusting it.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[willferg@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Wed, 17 Aug 2011 10:47:18 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Yes, there were....]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[But none had the presence of the name IBM.  Apple at that time was a fruit, unknown to anyone outside the (very small) computing fraternity.  IBM gave the industry a boost as their name was known to most business people.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry ZA]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Wed, 17 Aug 2011 06:31:22 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[the beginning of pc era: false - the beginning of the pc (r)evolution: true]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[no doubt, there were other, useful products at the time, when ibm started to sell computers called pc.but. butbutbut.besides creating a product ibm did a strange series of legal steps.i am really eager to read about their original intentions behind that (doubt i ever could ...)for the outsider, like me it looked like this:- the company elaborated the whole architecture- they did all the possible legal steps to legally register protection for any tiny details of the intellectual properties they included in the product- they did not take to no court no none nothing company whichever - by violating their intellectual property rights regarding to the protect - started to sell their products, which often were called &quot;compatible&quot;.  by the way, can anyone remember those (if more than that one i really know of) companies which signed a contract with ibm to produce authorized &quot;pc-compatible&quot;s. (see the difference ?) ?and this is where the essence of this story lies.an arhcitecture, that is protected from falling apart in its logic with unusual legal and business methods,an architecture that brought to life countless contributors with their development of any kind of add-on.the torrent of additional (internal hardware, bios, operating system, software, external hardware) developments, that were made possible by the openly-closed closedly-open architecture was the real (r)evolution, which could have been impossible on the bases of the strict closedness of any other competing architecture existing at the same time]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[sipr]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Tue, 16 Aug 2011 08:35:03 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[DOS used current wisdom]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[DOS (PC-DOS and MS-DOS) did use current wisdom, relying on previous work on CP/M and UNIX.  At the time, software was not patented.  Henry Ford used current wisdom when he developed the Model-T.  Did this make him a plagiarist?  It's time we thank, rather than castigate the likes of Bill Gates and Steve Jobs.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry ZA]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Tue, 16 Aug 2011 02:18:24 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[DOS and CP/M]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[I have read, but not verified that DOS was a rework of CP/M and was or was not legitimately obtained by Microsoft. I have no way to verify this. The creator of CP/M was killed in a bar incident in Santa Cruz in 1979.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[bobp@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Mon, 15 Aug 2011 13:14:08 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Never said it was better, it just was...]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[I liked mine (at the time). I never had any diskette issues with mine.  In fact, I bought a program that allowed me to write disks into about 60 other formats that existed at the time (Radshack, Northstar, Kaypro, Epson, etc.)  A few years later many did end up in closets, etc. but a lot of that was due to then being about $1000 more than the IBM PC which eventually won out for that very reason (IMO).  Iwas actually able to sell mine to a college (for their lab) for the cost of $1500.  Sounds good till you consider I paid nearly $3500 for it just a few years earlier.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[mjcampese]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Mon, 15 Aug 2011 13:06:47 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[early beginning]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[I still have (2)  Apple IIe and a Timex Sinclair that I used for several years many years ago.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[jlambert@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Mon, 15 Aug 2011 10:43:55 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Same here.]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[VIC-20, C64, C64 Portable. Since then home brews.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[foniklas]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Mon, 15 Aug 2011 09:59:39 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Memories]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[In 1980 we were building an accounting system under CP/M using Apple II, Victor 9000 (probably the fastest PC at the time) a suitcase sized Compaq and an Osborne - no IBM PC in sight after it was launched - much too expensive.Unfortunately the guy picking the OS technology never saw DOS as an option and kept on CP/M and we got run over in almost no time as DOS took over! Flight Simulator as the test for &quot;PC compatibility&quot; and we all had to fall in line as IBM managed their sheeple and took over. Apple then stumbled with the Lisa and IBM had free reinHad to go back to corporate life but it was fun.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[winntec]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Mon, 15 Aug 2011 07:41:20 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Not even the first...]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[The IBM machine was not the first PC.  And who has ever called Mr. Estridge, &quot;the father of the PC?&quot;  While ethnocentrism may be good for the USA ego, the Commodore PET was introduced in the 1970s and it wouldn't surprise me if others were introduced before.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Organic53]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Mon, 15 Aug 2011 07:21:28 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Apple II]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[I got  Apple II on 1978. I used it to calculate the input filters for TV receivers,( Nyquist slope a.s.o.) Used the Silent Type printer from Apple to get responses curves  and an extra card for calculations in pascal. The set is still working.NO IBM was not the first]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[pierre.terrisse@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Mon, 15 Aug 2011 07:00:14 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Rainbow]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[The Rainbow was so bad, you couldn't take at diskette and use it between two computers and expect it to work. They just didn't work. Most of them I saw ended up in closets until they were sold for scrap.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[dons2401811@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Mon, 15 Aug 2011 06:20:41 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[DOS]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Gates and Company, already owned the rights to DOS, IBM licensed it from Microsoft.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[dons2401811@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Mon, 15 Aug 2011 06:17:50 -0700</pubDate>
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