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        <title><![CDATA[Thank you very much]]></title>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[birumut]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2011 13:19:11 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Apple w/o SJ]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[He would be leaving sooner or later anyway, if he is as ill as some would have us believe.  As one commenter said we all leave this world at one time or another.  This way he can help the company transisiton to its new leadership.Microsoft hasn't been quite the same w/o Bill Gates as its leader, but they haven't fallen flat on their face either.In the end it makes no difference whether we praise him or pan him.  Apple will go on.  Unless there is a sudden dislike for their products or someone builds a &quot;better mousetrap&quot; and they can't compete.]]></description>
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        <pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2011 12:19:11 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Job is the greatest model]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Apple' innovation is not only on their products, but more proud is to transfer &quot;hearing from customers&quot; to the &quot;tangible service&quot;. The most innovation are focused only in products, but not much talks on &quot;the value of service&quot;. Job is the 1st person to the core value for customer' service: &quot;Intangible service service in tangible&quot; is my comments here.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[IC Chen]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2011 02:47:19 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Extolling the virtues of Steve Jobs]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[What a jackass.  You allowed the Jobs performance to make your decision.  It's as if you were not aware of the Jobs super ego.  Now he's out of the Apple all those with a grudge are coming out of the woodwork.  Where were you before Jobs decided to go off and die????????? I don't own an Ipod, Ipad or Macbook.  I have owned Macs since 1985.]]></description>
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        <pubDate>Sat, 03 Sep 2011 10:40:57 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[At last, I may shop Apple.]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[With Steve Jobs gone, I am 50% more likely to shop at Apple, if they did away with I-Tunes, would would be another 50% likely, which would put them on an even table with the other products that compete with theirs.  I was really considering purchasing one of the new Ipad2 when they came out, I was right on the edge, I saw a video of Steve Jobs extolling the virtues of his new product he he convinced me.  I became certain at that moment, not to purchase an IPad.  Good sales there Steve.  Here is an idea for ya, if your going to sell a tech product, you may want to spend a little bit of time telling us what it has rather than trash talking the competition.  I realize that he played the &quot;little man&quot; behind Microsoft for so long that he is afraid of the competition but come on!  For years, Apple has sold, average products while they were viewed as selling master pieces and they were priced as masterpieces.  I have yet to see a single innovative product that they have sold that can match in price and capabilities their competitors.  They will frequently just nudge out a product in some categories while being just less in other categories while being in some cases 200% higher in price.  They are simply marketing on a name brand.  When my sons decided they needed I-Pods, I showed them several products that beat every single feature of the I-Pods that were in several cases less than half the price and they still simply had to have the I-Pod cause that is what all of their friends have.  I purchased the I-Pod and a Creative Labs product on the same day.  Received them both and within a week my son was begging to trade his I-Pod for my Creative Labs.  I made the trade with him and I am sure the I-Pod is still in a drawer somewhere?]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Phayt]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2011 10:30:13 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[will Jobs culture live on?]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Only time will tell if the Jobs culture will live on as with other great innovators. Most CEOs are just money chasers trying to return their investor's a profit. It is true innovators like Jobs, Gates, Bell, Disney that turn their dreams into realities. I don't think it is about the profits to them (well, maybe for M$ and Gates). Who would have thought millions would pay an annual homage to a mouse? The telephone was poo-pooed by Western Union as a fad. Apple could have and would have died without Steve Jobs but his legacy can live on if the culture he established lives on. Time will tell.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[jlindner]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2011 09:46:31 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Awesome Write-up]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Thank you.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Pravat]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2011 07:20:09 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[suggestion for mr jobs]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[With many people I have help, I send this bird message to him. Milk thistle is a supplement which has cured many people from liver complication. My recommendation have save many people. Good luck and when you have a home base business, clue in the rest of the other future entreprenuer with what's next.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Interactive Communication]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2011 21:00:21 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Apple after Jobs]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Lacking... Time will tell if I'm right or not.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Fgalusha@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2011 14:52:42 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Written well.]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[I worked for a Chicago faith based charity for many years and we actually had Ken Blanchard in for a couple of sessions. His leadership model makes a lot of sense but takes personality driven leadership out of the picture a bit. I wonder who Jobs has learned from. He seems to prescribe to an ethical but high intensity concept of success and excellence that has to be swallowed whole by staff to work out. Religious metaphors are appropriate here because few people have the charisma of Christ. He said to people follow and they dropped everything and followed. What Apple will need is to gradually reinvent themselves a bit with the disciples of Jobs (Jon Ive comes to mind) doing work that only they can do. Meanwhile, Cook and others who are stalwart business people will have to oversee the sketch book of Jobs future ideas. They won't be the same product he would have made, but they will come closer than any other company could. If I were Tim Cook I would buy what's left of Palm and RIM and innovate the heck out of Android. Make  science fiction happen with a Steve Jobs template. Then, offer Steve Woz a role so that some old Apple DNA breath on the engineers who stick around because its Apple.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Mosblest]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2011 14:24:56 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[I think that's naive]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[In the latter stages of my working life I think that the combination of attributes that Jobs has is extremely rare. Very, very few people have whatever the Jobs essence is. It is far more than time and resources. Many have tried to articulate his various characteristics but ultimately it is the combination of these embedded in a particular personality with a particular value system that makes him unique. This doesn't make him a saint or a sinner - just an incredibly rare individual who has made a remarkable impact on society at a particular point in time.And this individual has driven the creation of numerous products that resonate with me and millions of others through what they do and how they do it.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Ian Wright]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2011 19:52:27 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Apple after Jobs]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[I think Jobs had a vision for the future, but he tended to be a late comer to the specifics of that vision. He had a talent for recognizing a talent for innovation in others, recognizing great ideas and their potential, and understanding his customers at a psychological and emotional level, what they could relate to. Most people give Jobs credit for being a visionary, but I think a good part of that vision was in the people he hired. Where Jobs excelled, as far as his customers were concerned, was in packaging and marketing, and he fed this back into the engineering process. This was the reason why he would berate his engineers to &quot;make it better.&quot; It was the engineers who would come up with the new ideas, but since they're tech heads, they have difficulty paring the idea down to something the customer can relate to. The people he hired have the capability to make it so, but Jobs would press them to focus on the customer's needs in terms of relating to the product, more than they otherwise would if left to their own devices.Looking as I have into Apple's early history, you can see this bear out. It wasn't Jobs who came up with the idea of a personal computer. That was the idea of his earliest business partner, Steve Wozniak. What Jobs did was to recognize, where Wozniak didn't, &quot;Hey, wait a minute. We can make this into a product. Let's sell it!&quot; Jobs came up with the case design for the computer, and he recognized the market for it, but the internal electronics, how the computer worked, was Woz's idea.With the Apple Lisa, Jobs was initially against the idea. The Lisa project had been started as a graphical computer in the late 1970s. Over time they developed a graphical user interface for it, based on ideas that had been released out of Xerox PARC in the same time period. Jobs wanted to kill the project. One of Xerox's divisions approached Apple to go into a joint venture, to get some of Xerox's R&amp;D licensed out. Jobs initially refused, but one of his engineers, Jef Raskin, convinced him to take a more in-depth look at what Xerox was doing with GUIs. He and a team of Apple engineers visited Xerox (twice) in December 1979, and Jobs came away a convert. Thus came the Lisa, and later the Macintosh.Jobs did not fully understand what Xerox was up to at the time. He later said of his visit: They showed me, really, three things, but I was so blinded by the first one that I didn???t really ???see??? the other two. One of the things they showed me was object-oriented programming. They showed me that, but I didn???t even ???see??? that. The other one they showed me was really a networked computer system. They had over 100 Alto computers all networked, using e-mail, etc., etc. I didn???t even ???see??? that. I was so blinded by the first thing they showed me, which was the graphical user interface. I thought it was the best thing I had ever seen in my life. Now, remember it was very flawed. What we saw was incomplete. They had done a bunch of things wrong, but we didn???t know that at the time. Still, though, the germ of the idea was there, and they had done it very well. And within ten minutes it was obvious to me that all computers would work like this, someday.The things he didn't &quot;see&quot; were all things he later realized with his NeXT line of computers, after being fired by Apple in the mid-80s.The day of the announcement that Jobs was stepping down as CEO, and the day after, I watched financial analysts attempt to prognosticate about the company, and I was disappointed. All they could talk about was how the stock had been moving, how they had executed on product launches, how profitable the company is. They said they were pleased with the &quot;bench&quot; of executives at Apple, etc. All of that misses what makes Apple such an attractive company to people. It reminds me of the stories I heard years ago about MBAs who would come into a technology company after the founders had sold it, and how everything was just a numbers game to them. What makes the company great is those things that are not quantifiable, and only come from respecting people's individuality: talent, skill, creativity, vision.So with Jobs out of the loop more, he'll be able to continue to set the overall vision for the company. He'll be able to keep tabs on what the company is coming out with, and see whether he approves of the decisions being made in that regard. He can probably hire and fire executives, but he's going to lose the day to day creative control. No one can replace Steve Jobs. The question really is are there people in the company who can set a new, profitable vision for it? We'll have to wait and see about that. Having said this, I wonder if it wouldn't be better if Jobs just left the company altogether, rather than remaining on with the board. If the company is going to have a chance of succeeding after he leaves, it's going to have to be the product of somebody else's vision. It's going to have to be somebody else's baby, not his.]]></description>
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        <pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2011 14:48:43 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[This is where company souls go to die]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[There was a time when Bill Gates was ruthless and Microsoft was moving mountains. Then came government regulations, and the company got boring. That's why there was no change when Gates eventually left, he was already gone.Apple will, in all likeliness, become boring as well, but I believe their demise in this market will be wrongfully attributed to the departure of Jobs. Had Jobs stayed, he would have thrown the company on the path of Mac, that is in a dire situation because of their refusal to create anything else than vertically integrated products. Jobs or not, Google and Android, or maybe Microsoft and Windows, will take over tablets and smartphones and Apple will once again become a niche player in the industry. Actually, the next crazy CEO of Apple may be the one who's gonna save them from the Jobsian fate.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Pacoup]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2011 13:04:09 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Apple will never be the same...]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[How Apple will succeed without its major driving force remains to be seen. Yes the company is quite capable of being successful with someone else at the helm, but one only needs to look to the period between the late 80s and mid 90s when Job was absent from Apple to see how quickly a company can slide from greatness into near-oblivion only to be resurrected by his return. These are indeed very large shoes to fill.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[glysien]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2011 04:55:48 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Steve Jobs visons, life or death...]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[its obvious this man is killing himself in the midst of running a epic tech empire.. He needs to take care of himself and heal...  Steve Jobs is as about as brilliant as it gets, but we can't count on him forever for everything. Apple as sure as the day it was born, will continue to be the best in the industry.. We as consumers, investors, designs, developers have the power to keep the vision going, to never settle for anything but the best and Apple will have to find ways to keep itself on top... One thing i read here in all the many articles about Mr Jobs  that struck me the most was the fact that Steve himself never bothered to stop and listen to what the people wanted- because he knew once they people got what they wanted, they would want something else, just like a child... And now we find our selves not wanting him to leave.. is that what we really want? The poor guy to work himself to death for the needs of our tech savvy expectations?NO,  Instead Live by his example, stop and ask- is this really what i want? He did, and took another look and created something &quot;we the people&quot; would fall in love with! Like a mass media, world wide love affair we have had with Steve Jobs- He will never give us what we want- he will give us something better..   and so, we must continue his passionate legacy with blind faith!  It might take more then one man to fill the shoes of Mr Jobs, but If he's got it right he'll make sure he keeps the love affair going long before he is gone.....]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[JodisDesign]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Sun, 28 Aug 2011 13:01:55 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Jobs Out as CEO]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Apple did not succeed with the Newton and the original Macs did not allow one to expand the system except with SCSI devices and that was often a hassle. My Apple //e was left high and dry when Apple moved to the Mac. The GUI interface allowed me to do useful work with a Mac without having to learn a lot of command line commands. Steve Ballmer, no innovative genius, called the Mac a toy. Would the computer industry have grown the way it has if we had stayed with DOS and the command line interface? Yes, I know that the mouse and GUI started at Xerox Parc, but Apple incorporated it into computers used by people like myself who needed the capability of computers without having to know a lot about what was going on inside. If it makes people feel good to denigrate people like me, I feel sorry for them. We cannot all be geeks and geniuses. Some of us have professions to practice, children to raise and soccer games to coach and referee.I hope that Apple will continue to encourage innovation, thinking outside the box and developing &quot;cool stuff.&quot; Only time will tell. Not all great companies survive as great companies. Look at GE and Kodak. Even Microsoft with its cash on hand and giant revenue stream could fail if it continues to do things the same way it has always done things.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[radar_z]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Sat, 27 Aug 2011 22:17:30 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Steve Jobs will still be around...]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[...enough to make his impact felt. There hasn't been a leader like Jobs since Walt Disney. What Walt did is exactly what you have stated. He created a culture of excellence and innovation that exists to this day. If anyone else today can emulate Disney's vision, I can think of no better candidate than Steve Jobs.]]></description>
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        <pubDate>Sat, 27 Aug 2011 20:02:16 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Steve Jobs]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Still don't like the guy, when he left us Lisa owners high and dry at the beginning of the apple era, you just don't experiment with other peoples hard earned money with out their permission.  By the way, the HTC HD phones around 2007 (touch phone operations with similar menu configurations)  were out before the iphone, as well as even earlier the O2 (XDA) circa 2003 - touch phone stylus operated.  All in all it's a mater how one perceives the person, just wished I didn't fork out the +$4,000 back then for the Lisa.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Dutchman_8]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Sat, 27 Aug 2011 06:33:36 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Apple without Jobs]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[I completely disagree with you on the effect of Jobs leaving Apple.  This company is old enough to have DNA and it will take years for the DNA to change.  Even if the new man tries hard to change things very quickly.  You have to remember what happened to Apple when a previous new manager tried to change the culture and failed miserably.I worked in SV (not Apple) for many years and understand the engineering climate there. In companies that do not allow the MBA's to institute their quarterly profits programs they are always much more successful. Please keep in mind the DNA in Apple is very deep and took long time develop. It will not change quickly, there is of course gene drift, but gene drift is a very slow processWith Steve gone there will be changes, but very slowly.  Don't forget the investors they have a lot of influence on how much change can be made and how quickly.In my opinion your column has insulted Steve Jobs, your readers and especially me.  Have you ever experienced the culture of a very tight engineering department thats producing innovative products that make a profit..???? In my opinion you are selling Jobs and Apple short.cramoft]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[cramoft]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Fri, 26 Aug 2011 21:33:32 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[You have a sound point but...]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[You make a few fatal mistakes. The first is that you are suggesting that retarded people smoke and do drugs. I have never met a mentally retarded person who smokes or does drugs and I went to a high school that had a program for such people (cue the jokes, yeah, I fit right in).The second terrible example, that is equally offensive to someone, is that your remark about homosexuals assumes two things:1. Homosexuals cannot be great people 2. Homosexuals can be cured somehow? (You suggested positive reinforcement)There is a big difference between constructive critisim and using derogetory terms. I'm not sure if Mr. Jobs has ever insulted anyone as bad as you just did.I conclude that you are a painfully ignorant dunce and that you may be suffering from one or all of these problems yourself. Perhaps you are an overweight retarded f@gg0+ who is suffering from a drug addiction? Please choose your words more carefully in the future. If you haven't offended everyone on this site, hopefully I have.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Spitfire_Sysop]]></dc:creator>
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