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"Nuff said!
Sure it was silly and a bit stupid, but who can resist a little purring fuzzball?
...between the barkeeper and Cyrano Jones trying to scam free drinks--a bit that also asks why we even need barkeepers in a future with pattern replicators and food synthesizers!

Plus: "Then there's the Enterprise--a ship not even fit to haul away garbage!"

"Don't ye think ye might want to... rephrase that, laddie?"

"Oh, you're right. It shouldn't be hauling garbage...it should be hauled away AS garbage!"

*Fight*
Of the many ST episodes "inspired by" the work of other authors, I believe Tribbles are unique in having been "inspired by" a science fiction story rather than by classic literature.
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tribbles
hthyne@... 26th Aug 2011
Our credit union has an ongoing charitable promotion involving tribble-sized stuffed animals. Up close they're adorable all sorts of characters timed to peoples' interests and the holidays and seasons. But one branch manager tends to over do it. Every blasted time I go into the branch I an reminded of this horrible episode from StarTrek!
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tribbles
hthyne@... 27th Aug 2011
Loved tribbles. Didn't like the episode plot. Who can resist tribbles (and I'm very suspicious of cat-haters).
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Top Rated
'Tribbles' is one of the all-time TOP five. Anyone who says otherwise is a Denebian slime devil who should be towed away AS garbage.
See subject.
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Bad episodes aren't top, they're 'bottom': "Bottom five".
"The Trouble with Tribbles" and "A Piece of the Action" were clearly different from other episodes. I love both of them, not as great SciFi, but they are really very funny.
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Comedies
n4aof@... 30th Aug 2011
Every episode with Harry Mudd was a comedy
No list of "5 worst of Star Trek" can exclusively diss the original series and not find a fault with ENT; the last show was canceled for a reason: it was bad out of the gate and nothing they did to 'improve' it ever succeeded.

ENT made me realize that "The Way to Eden" is actually not only NOT one of the worst 5 of the franchise, it is frankly better written than ANY episode of ENT; sure, it LOOKS silly, but it is technically far superior to the poorly-plotted stories of ENT that haven't even a grasp of BASIC science, let alone any of the pseudoscience common to Trek and most other sci-fi (remember when they plugged a hole in a leaking spacecraft hull with MASHED POTATOES? shocked )

You also completely ignored "Threshold" from "Voyager" shocked.
Those emotional scars never heal...
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I watched every episode, in the hopes that "this week they'll get their s*** together," and sadly, it never happened. I did not watch any of the episodes again, however wink.
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That last season
GovRon 26th Aug 2011
They had a few good episodes. The Mirror Universe two parter (though part 1 was slow). The three part arc with the augments - yeah, a little overplayed, but not bad. And earlier, Carbon Creek was not too bad.
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Carbon Creek
Ed Woychowsky 26th Aug 2011
I work in Doylestown Pennsylvania, haven't seen a Vulcan hanging out around here, though.
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I stopped watching after Nazi Space Lizards. Funnily enough, if Warehouse 13, Haven, Fringe, or Eureka were to do Nazi Space Lizards, I'd watch. But they have people who can write dialogue and plot. Also, none of the actors on those shows are...well, none of them are Jolene Blalock.
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what can I say
hthyne@... 27th Aug 2011
I'm a Scott Bakula fan. But he was better in Quantum Leap.
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ST Entprs?
jeroldo 7th Sep 2011
One of the good ones in MHO.
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Preferred
maj37 21st Oct 2011
Actually I liked Enterprise and preferred it to Voyager. I stopped watching Voyager after about season 3, except for the occasional few minutes as I walked through the living room while my wife watched it, though I did watch the final episode to see how they ended it, I was sorry I did.
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Wrong series
mckinnej 26th Aug 2011
It's pretty obvious the list is only about the original series.
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I liked enterprise
pgit 26th Aug 2011
I don't know what it is with people, they viscerally hate this series. I didn't think it was near as bad as "voyager."
And stayed true to the series before it. Sure somehow their deflector could do everything except making popcorn and a movie. Apparently the doctor was so poorly programmed that simply leaving him running would degrade him (Windows???) and no matter how many people died, the ship always had 150 crew members.
But the plots were generally good, usually giving a good mix of crew personalization and spaceship fighting.
Enterprise was your typical sex sells garbage.
The whole it-was-all-just-a-dream (or holodeck simulation) ploy. It retroactively "explained" a lot and allowed for a quick death, but was still full of fail and oh so facile. I believe the term is "phoning it in".

But you could pretty much see it coming over the horizon.
All TV shows get into "sex". Did you stop watching Voyager after Jerri Ryan came in as 7 of 9? I guess she was brought in to explore the culture of the Borg.
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That is true...
Slayer_ Updated - 30th Aug 2011
But aside from a brief moment when the Q strips her naked, she never openly had sex with crew members.

She tried to, but that implant problem saved her.
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You mean those big pectoral implants got in the way? wink
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That apparently controlled her heartbeat and such.
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bioioioiooinnnggg!!!!
pgit 22nd Oct 2011
~oW~ my eye!

"7 of 9" is an insult, should be more like "11 of 10!" =O
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Sex
maj37 21st Oct 2011
Sex sells garbage are you forgetting 7 of 9?
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And when she tried, her brain implant shut down.
Their minds turned back on, and as much as I hate to admit it, I started to like what they did with the character. Pity "Enterprise" didn't seem to do much with T'Pol other than have her scowl disapprovingly at things. (Exception: "Carbon Creek," which for my money is one of the best "Quantum Leap" episodes of all time.)
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It was designed to be before the orignal Star Trek. So it had to seem backwards and outdated in comparison. Enterprise had to be a bridge type show filling in some gaps of how technology may have been developed and accepted. Plus it tried to attract some people by showing more bare body parts than would have been permitted back in the day.
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Doesn't explain the writing, or Jolene Blalock's one facial expression.
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Two words
GovRon 26th Aug 2011
Space Nazis
At least those episodes didn't have absurd levels of parallel social evolution (I mean really, another planet with a United States?!).

They were brought about by influence from humans and while the gangster one was pretty goofy it WAS fun. I can deal with a TV or movie being stupid if it's entertaining.

Now then there was "Bread and Circuses", the Roman Empire surviving into the 20th Century...
...with the Anton LeVay-type warlock-villain. As far-fetched(!) and dumb as the Nazi planet and Gangster planet to me.
I enjoyed that one. Right, Spocko?

Check!
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Gangsters
JeffDeWitt 27th Aug 2011
I did too.... it was dumb but it was a lot of fun.

"Spock: Captain, must we?
Capt. Kirk: It's faster than walking.
Spock: Yes, but not as safe.
Capt. Kirk: Are you afraid of cars, Mr. Spock?
Spock: Not at all, Captain. It's your *driving* that alarms me. "
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I believe
mustang84 1st Sep 2011
they had a device known as the clutch. Perhaps one of those pedals on the floor.
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A Piece of the Action?
seanferd Updated - 26th Aug 2011
"I'd advise yous ta keep dialin'."

edit: Oops - Palmetto already said it.
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A different kind of Star Trek
Realvdude Updated - 1st Sep 2011
I know I'm going to get comments, as there are certain "fans", that dislike anything that is not full of action and violence. I cite DS9 getting new life with addition of the Valiant, and subsequent change of venue and theme for the series. One of my Favorite episodes of DS9 starred Majel Barett as Ambassador Troi, in which Odo literally melts in her arms. We'll see if that makes the DS9 worst list.
Voyager which I think the creators tried to blend the exploration/social aspects with the action/conflict aspects. It didn't take long for it to become unbalanced.
I give Enterprise credit for being able to hold their own, if but for only a little while. As a last example/question, how many liked Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home, but didn't like the first season of Enterprise?
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Let's face it, that shot of the Klingon ship coming under the Golden Gate Bridge is just frickin' cool.

Hey, Jay, are you gonna do the movies?
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But I suppose I could rank them from worst to first. May need to save that until we get a firm release date on the second JJ Abrams reboot film. Wrath of Khan would be best and Final Frontier would be worst, everyone else is playing for middle ground.
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Maybe the first movie? As a former Navy man, I have always thought the director did it right when they were first returning Kirk to the Enterprise in "dry dock" and the crew member piloting the shuttle (Scotty?) took the scenic route and let Kirk have a good look at her from outside. Splendid touch!!
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"Worst to first"
Ptorq 26th Aug 2011
The first _is_ the worst. (I do seem to dimly recall something entitled "Star Trek V" that was worse, but it was clearly a parody.)

The episodes mentioned are all cheesy but sort of entertaining, and I'd watch them if they were on. The ones I skip are Cat's Paw (originally a non-Trek story that didn't really fit in when adapted as a Trek episode) and Assignment: Earth, which was a sort of pilot for another series and for Trek fans consists mostly of scenes with characters you don't know doing things you don't care about in an office building circa 1968.
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Aww, come on! Robert Lansing? Teri Garr?

Yeah, I know. Roddenberry helped write that one. You can tell, can't you.
Yesit was the first motion picture and yes it was Scotty doing the piloting and I agree it was great Star Trek moment! ("My friends, we have come home!").

I had a brother that saw the movie before me and said that part of the movie was "slow and boring"...when I was watching that I was on the edge of my seat! I guess it is one of those scenes that only a true Trekkie could enjoy. I am glad you brought it up.
is worth watching if only for Teri Garr in that late '60s mini-skirt.
until I caught it on cable recently. I'll try to forget it again.
Although Undiscovered Country was also one of the better ones.
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Do you mean...
P.F. Bruns 26th Aug 2011
The Defiant? Also, the venue and theme of the series did not change. Yes, the Dominion War shifted the tone of the series, but it was still set on the same station, which still stood between the wormhole and Bajor. And the war was just the largest story arc of the show, not a theme changer. The show was still about the situations faced by the commander of a space station way out in the middle of nowhere.

However, I'm totally with you on the Odo/Troi episode.

To me, Voyager started out promising, but descended into a hot mess. Enterprise started out as a hot mess, and got worse.
You also better express what I meant by saiyng "the theme and venue changed". I liked DS9 for the social and interpersonal story lines, and to me that "story arc" just went way off base, pardon the pun. But then again, I was a Babylon 5 fan too.
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Loved Babylon 5
P.F. Bruns 29th Aug 2011
To me, the big thing about Babylon 5 was that it rewarded continual viewers. Unfortunately, living in Hawai'i at the time meant I couldn't be a continual viewer, because I never had a clue when new episodes would come in. We'd get the same installment three weeks in a row, and then two eps from a season back, then one new one.
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You may be able to watch those episodes for free on"TheWB", Hulu or one of those other sites. I know they were available a couple of years ago. IMO, Babylon 5 was the best Sci-fi show ever. I think it originally started on TNT. They also had some great writers (a lot of them also wrote Star Trek episodes and books), although JMS wrote the majority of the scripts. There is a wiki on the show. I also watched JMS's follow-on, Crusade. However, he may have run out of gas by that time as he had a tough act to follow. I think Crusade had a lot of potential, but was never given a chance to develop. Xheck out the Babylon 5 wikipedia.

BTW, another series that predated Star Trek that I enjoyed was one called "Star Lost". It was a Canadian production about a multi-generational ship with a number of independent biopods (which eventually became isolated after generations). Harlan Ellison came up with the idea. Again, there is a wiki (wikipedia) on the series.
From time to time I have vague memories of Star Lost, but never could piece enough together to get the name. How about "Space 1999"? The Moon is blasted from orbit by exploding atomic waste being stored from Earth. The show was sometimes unintentionally campy, but I think that was almost a given for 1970's SciFi; thank you Star Wars for breaking that.
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ST IV had to be the worst of the movies. Sure it had some cute scenes, like Scotty talking to a computer mouse, but "save the Whales" is a plot line that Hollywood has beaten into the ground.

I might pick a different order for the ST:TOS turkey episodes, but TR's top 5 includes the same ones I remembered as the gobblers. Good job!

happy
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...the scripts. The horrible, horrible scripts. "This craft is abandoned in space. Let's investigate. OMG dead bodies! Uh oh, scary aliens! Run away! Wait, no, go back!"
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But first I have to shred TNG (next month), DS9 and Voyager. Patience.
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Can't wait
Realvdude 26th Aug 2011
A great topic to waste time on, regardless of what you liked or didn't like any of Star Trek.
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Well Jay all I can say is
OH Smeg Updated - 26th Aug 2011
Make it so Number 1.

Now I'll go and change User Accounts. sad

Col wink
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bear in mind...
pgit 27th Aug 2011
Anything can easily be "slammed." Regardless of the vehicle, (a science fiction television series) I suggest you look at some of the enterprise episodes not as sci fi, but as straight up westerns and straight up WWII scenes, of course where those scenes appear. In my opinion, a few moments among those scenes are the finest examples of those genres ever put on film.

Viewed in isolation, Enterprise put together some exceptional production. This says nothing of the overall effect, or effectiveness of the show. Just look carefully for a few places where the quality of production of Enterprise exceeded anything any of the other series ever achieved.
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The only thing I didn't like about the Enterprise series was the TNG's version of the Klinglons. There was no Praxis in the original series and TNG's deviation and then excuses for the "new" Klingon look was inconsistent with a number of the Star Trek books that had been written by then.

BTW, a Star Trek series I would love to see is the book series written by Peter David - Star Trek: The New Frontier. When there was discussion of a new Star Trek series, I thought it was going to be about that series - instead it was the Enterprise (of course, Jolene Blalock made one fantastic Vulcan - she and Jeri Ryan could serve on my Enterprise).
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I use the four episode test on new TV series. If I don't like it after 4 episodes, gone. ENT only made it three. There is a certain amount racism in scifi/fantasy to begin with. The KKK could have written Vulcans/Humans smell bad.
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"a race of aliens that has become functionally idiotic" reminds me of a Next Gen episode (I can't tell you the name -- I was never a trekkie). Geordi goes aboard another vessel to help them, and they don't want to let him go because he's smarter than they are. When asked their mission, they keep saying, "We look for things." This became a catch-phrase in Enron's I.T. Dept. for quite awhile; a way of calling someone an idiot without saying so... "He looks for things!"
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and the race is the Pakleds. This is also the episode that introduces Picard's artificial heart, a plot thread to be revisited a few seasons later in the Q episode "Tapestry."

Yes, I'm a trekkie.
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best reference ever
pgit 22nd Oct 2011
Of all the cultural touchstones introduced by the entire ST universe, the Pakleds have to be the best.

There's an author over at ZDNet that used it to perfection in referring to knee-jerk Microsoft fanbois one time. The subject had been ripped a million times with all manner of wit and reason, but nothing put him in his place better than one simple question: "are you a Pakled?"

It wouldn't work as well if there was no youtube. Anyone not on the ins can figure it out for themselves, and most likely long after you're out of arm's reach...
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In "Wolf in the Fold", Scotty is literally caught red handed standing over the boddy of a belly dancer with a knife in his hand. It turns out that the real killer is the spirit of Jack the Ripper!
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There was an alien that could take over someone's body - a staple of the horror/fantasy genre. It was the force behind a famous serial killer the audience knew about. It looked like Scotty must have done the crime yet the audience knew he couldn't have. That was a great plot.
"Wolf in the Fold" was written by Hugo award winning author Robert Bloch. As GovRon pointed out it was classic horror/fantasy with a nice Star Trek twist.
is that in order to make sure that none of the crew are affected by the spirit of Jack the Ripper, Bones is instructed to get them all high as a kite. I wonder who his connection was?
There are one or two very close seconds, such as Cat's Paw....A witch / holloween style episode....Yeech!
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turnabout intruder
pgit 26th Aug 2011
I concur with your assessment, Jay; lame and sexist. But I have to admit that for very personal reasons, this is actually my favorite episode of the original series.

Don't ask me to explain.. someone got fired but it was part of a very comical incident that got labeled with the title of this episode...
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... but the commentary had me laughing TOO HARD. (I needed that!!!)
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Yes, this was indeed a low point for the series. Nimoy himself said the whole concept was idiotic and was loathe to be involved in the episode shoot. Alas, contracts are contacts...
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Even those episodes yielded some immortal lines. "It would have been glorious" (the Omega glory) is a great line for telling a geek opponent that you would have won the Scrabble game he refused to play; and when I need to feel totally stupid, there's nothing like a chorus of "Goin' to Eden" with my jaw half-clenched, Adam style. Yea, brother.
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That line was actually from Errand of Mercy. The Organians stopped the Federation and Klingons from going to war. The Klingon commander uttered this line as he an Kirk were commiserating the fact that they didn't get their war.
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This was the one episode that, somehow, I missed until 1977. To be sitting up one night in college and suddenly see a Star Trek episode that I'd never seen after all those years of re-runs...it will always have a special place in my heart. Thank pointy ears and pitchforks it wasn't "And the children shall lead."
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It took me by surprise to see who all gathered around the TV on Sundays at midnight to watch. It was a snowy picture from a distant station, but we watched loyal "dammit!".
Call the angel, we will go."

Or something like that. It's not burned into my memory like 'Eden'.
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Actually made a profound impression on me as a pre-teen (yes, I'm that old). The reason why reciting the pledge saved the day is because they had been reciting it without understanding it -- which led me to rapidly draw a parallel with our church liturgy.
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Pledge of Allegiance
bigredbird Updated - 26th Aug 2011
Personally, I thought The Way to Eden was A LOT worse than Spock's Brain. Really, really dumb and annoying.
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It wasn't the Pledge of Allegiance it was the preamble to the constitution! I have never been able to hear that read without hearing of Kirk's voice.
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I thought it was just me.
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Kirk begins by completing the Pledge of Allegiance when Cloud William starts his slurred version. When Cloud William is angered at Kirk's use of "worship words" that only a chief may speak, it leads to Cloud William bringing our the "greatest of holies" which Kirk insists must apply to everyone, or they are meaningless. It is this second set of scripture that is the Preamble to the US Constitution.
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The Omega Glory
caritah 26th Aug 2011
Sorry to be picky but Kirk recited the Preamble to the US Constitution, not the Pledge of Allegiance. You know, "We the people..."
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I feel sorry for those of you that find Voyager or Enterprise somehow worse than the other series. TOS is now laughable looking back on it (yes I grew up with it) and I find Voyager & Enterprise far superior (although all "SciFi on TV" is not considered amongst the better forms) than any of the other 3. Voyager broke many of the Star Trek cliches and presented us with real stories & characters (which is obviously not desired by looking at the comments in this discussion). Enterprise was also very strong but lost out to blood, guts, & sex - the staples of modern "entertainment"...unfortunately.
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With the dialogue turned off?
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I'm glad someone else sees the value in these two series. Voyager is easily the most entertaining of all the spin-offs, as well as the best acted (compare TNG's Troi: "Pain... such... pain." Haha). Enterprise was good too, bolstered by strong guest performances. With Vaughn Armstrong,Gary Graham, Jeffrey Combs, and Joanna Cassidy, it's hard to go wrong.
That was until rm.hutchings comments about Nimoy above. As an eight year old watching these back in the day on our first color tv, this stuff was the best! I don't care how bad it looks now looking back with our present day cynicism and glazed eye's. I have a smart phone that goes far beyond Kirk's communicator. I just wish I had a tricorder too, but I think it's coming soon. And damn, if I don't wish I could be beamed the F out of here! Where is Scotty when you need him?
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Missing the point
ourbank 26th Aug 2011
The fact that we are even spending time having a discussion speaks to the popularity of Star Trek. Simply put... It's all good (even when it's bad)! Of course, some new stuff would be great to see - more to discuss!
...NOMAD "Sterilize!"
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Season 3
Ed Woychowsky 26th Aug 2011
A number of episodes in season 3 were pretty lame. Though a mash-up of Spock's Brain with the song "If I only had a brain" playing in the background might be worth a chuckle.

I'm a Trekkie, too!
I think all the episodes cited are from the third season.
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Slight tangent
JamesRL 26th Aug 2011
If you are a trekkie, I hope you've seen Bruno Mars Lazy Day alternative version starring Leonard Nimoy. Watch it a few times, then watch Spock's brain....

http://trekmovie.com/2011/05/26/watch-leonard-nimoy-gets-lazy-in-bruno-mars-music-video/
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Lizard man
drdrf 26th Aug 2011
What, no mention of "Arena"?
Kirk vs. the Lizard Man?
Probably the worst monster suit ever, and incredibly fake rocks.

And how about the "Gamesters of Triskelion"?
(great way to identify other trekkies, though: just hum the music from the fight scene)
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The worst 'suit' was the hovering lollipop alien from 'Spectre of the Gun'. As I recall, it never moved; just a vague image of a round head on a slender limbless body against a smoky background.
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"Arena'
Ed Woychowsky 26th Aug 2011
It's a classic Frederick Brown story.

The list of writers for Star Trek episodes are a Whos-Who of science fiction.
And Kirk's little cannon certainly would have maimed Kirk rather than being an effective weapon, assuming it could have built pressure at all (which is really just a prop fail).

It still doesn't fall into my list of relatively bad episodes.
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I used to live in Southern California. The site for that (and many other shows) is Vasquez Rocks Park near Saugus and Newhall. When I-5 was completed between Palmdale and the San Fernando Valley, it afforded a brief glimpse of the location for that shoot as you drive south (the northbound lanes can't see it).

The place was named after Tiburcio Vasquez, who terrorized travelers in So. Cal in the late 1800's, when Los Angeles was still just a pueblo and the San Fernando Mission was a day's brisk walk away from L.A. He used the area and it's unusual rock formations to elude capture. Here's a link to Google search that provides several entries on the formation.

http://www.google.com/#sclient=psy&hl=en&source=hp&q=vasquez+rocks&pbx=1&oq=Vasquez&aq=1&aqi=g2g-s1g2&aql=&gs_sm=c&gs_upl=0l0l1l11715l0l0l0l0l0l0l0l0ll0l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=cf799297008d2d18&biw=1440&bih=703
As well as coal and potassium nitrate? That isn't real geology, I'm afraid.

What's cool about Vasquez (aside from being in about a hundred TV shows and films) is that the formation is a result of a plate being entirely subducted under the continent right up to the mid-ocean ridge, smacking into the Pacific plate. The foreland basin sank, filled with basalt, followed by layers of clastic detritus, which then uplifted to give you the crazy tilted forms we see today.

There aren't many piles of refined minerals among the sandstone, and this is what I was talking about.
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No geology
JeffDeWitt 27th Aug 2011
Remember the "arena" WASN'T entirely natural, it was set up for Kirk and the Gorn to fight with materials provided for them to make weapons.
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Agreed
mustang84 Updated - 1st Sep 2011
Including giant styrofoam boulders that looked like.....styrofoam boulders.
...was us watching Spock's extemporaneous 'jam session' with the hippies. It reminded me of when he was psychically forced to entertain the Romans with a little 'Bitter Dregs'. Since Hollywood at that time was so pro-Vietnam war and so anti-'drug culture', they condescended to idealistic youth about on a level to be expected; no better or worse than Mannix, Hawaii 5-0, or the rest of 1968 TV. Questioning authority in general (and hippiedom in particular) was not yet approved in TV-land. The Pentagon Papers hadn't even been snuck out and published yet.....Nixon was talking up the 'War on Drugs', etc.
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5 words...
mkelly@... 26th Aug 2011
"bonk! bonk! On the head!" happy
My wife's most disliked episode.
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5 worst episodes...
jck 26th Aug 2011
OK...so I don't know all the episiode names...but...

Yeah, the body switching, Freaky Friday-ish show was bad.

I think the one with the "I come for you..." clone projection women was stupid too.

Oh, and the one with the big furry suction cup handed, salt eating monster that looked like a woman...I call it "the abominable salt-eating space monster episode"

As for other than TOS shows:

a few TNG shows...herp derp.
a lot of Voyager shows...herp derp.
a lot of DS9 shows...herp derp.

I didn't watch Enterprise. After Voyager, I kinda went...pffft.

Jolene Blaylock and Jeri Ryan and Terry Farrell were always nice to see tho.

BTW, Jay...do you happen to know what Terry Farrell husband is most notable for?
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Not sure which half of that couple has the worse issue with typecasting. At least Terry also gets some play as the love interest from "Back to School."
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Yeah...
jck 26th Aug 2011
I love that movie.

Valerie Desmond...look at the *** on her. laugh devil

I'm glad you're back to geek out with again. happy I was getting bored sad
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"E Pleb Neesta.." is not the Pledge of Allegiance.
See U.S. Constitution, but not USS Constitution.
Tea Party is right. People have forgotten.
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Kirk start by reciting the pledge, proving to Cloud William that he knows the holy words. It is only after he's taken down Tracy that Kirk recites the Preamble to the Constitution.
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I swear, I hate The Lights of Zetar more than the "funny five" you've named. Each of your choices has a campy freakiness to it that I have fun with. You can almost sense the actors rolling their eyes while delivering the stupidest lines.

"and the children shall lead" is the dumbest, but has completely different incidental music than any other episode. It gives it the freaky feel. And Shatner makes me laugh when he's having his little anxiety attack early in the episode. Actually, Shatner is hilarious in all of these funny five.

But the Lights of Zetar has a dry nonsensical plot with no fun in it, and I can't even feel Scotty's pain as he loses his girlfriend.
whenever you see him, you'd probably cry or just ignore him.
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I personally liked "Spock's Brain" I think they knew how hilarious that one would be, and I still sing the melodies from "The Way to Eden" (especially around the holidays)
is actually from "Errand of Mercy." It's the Klingon commander Kor's comment on the war the Organians wouldn't let them fight.
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Yes, many of the TOS episodes look campy and lame when compared to today's use of movie-making technology. That aside, pioneering a new era of SciFi is an accomplishment unto itself. Believe it or not, I never took notice of Star Trek when I was a pre-teen (yes, I'm also that old) until a day my parents were took me to a friend's house and I caught a glimpse of the TV and someone was transporting down to another planet... I was hooked instantly!

These are my all-time favorite episdes, and yes these usually involve time-travel): "The City on the Edge of Forever", "Yesterday is Tomorrow", "Assignment Earth" (Teri Garr was Hot!), and "A Piece of the Action". Okay, A Piece of the Action was one of those questionable episodes that wreaks of a writier struggling to find a plot so they cave by adapting some James Cagney flick and try to call it "original". However, it did bring to us card players the immortal game of Fizbin!
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Uhmm...
Robiisan 26th Aug 2011
Reeks? As in "stinks to high heaven," as opposed to the present tense of "wrought?"
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lol
seanferd 27th Aug 2011
I think I'll go with your interpretation.

I'll even go with "writer wreaks unholy struggling plot!", whether or not I agree with the assessment created by my word jumble.
Tribbles, Devil in the Dark, Piece of the Action, Balance of Terror, and I, Mudd.
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OK Corral
Korvis 26th Aug 2011
No. The WORST one ever was the story with the shootout at the OK Corral. That one is so bad that most people have blocked it behind a wall of amnesia. Once again the senior command of the ship have been kidnapped by godlike aliens who force them into some ridiculous charade for the aliens' amusement and/or the humans' enlightenment. I was 14 when I saw that one, and even then I knew it was wretched.
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Klingons?
cgist 26th Aug 2011
Jay, got a question for you. I have seen most of all the series, but I must have missed where they explained why the klingons in the original series do not look like the ones in the later series and movies. Do you know?
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That is something
HAL 9000 26th Aug 2011
That the Klingons don't talk about they are deeply ashamed of that period of their evolution. wink

Col
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ENT had a totally different one. Mind you, nothing unusual about ENT ignoring canon.
Retconning is the name of the game in the Star Trek franchise.
During the Long Hiatus, the semi-canonical version was that there were human-klingon "fusions", and romulan-klingon fusions. (Sort of a genetic engineering thing.) This, of course, was before anyone ever saw what the new canonical klingons looked like in STNG.

In DS9, there is a funny episode where they go back in time to the Trouble With Tribbles incident. Worf is asked what is up with the Klingons, to which he replies, "We do not speak of it."
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One of the best TOS episodes...
MyopicOne Updated - 26th Aug 2011
Balance of Terror - the Romulan attacks on the outposts with the cloaked ship. Aside from Spock's dad playing the Romulan commander (oops), it examines racism and the weight of leadership where lives are involved, and throws in courage, honor, and certainly a sense of duty, if not also a misplaced sense of duty. Plus we get a close up of Yeoman Rand.

Voyager completely jumped the shark in the first episode of season two - the one when Janeway expresses indecision in a combat or near combat situation. Star Fleet IS a military organization, folks. Chakotay should have immediately relieved Janeway of command. That failure at least relieved me from having to watch any more episodes.

Ed Woychowsky is right about TOS's writers.
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Yes, and no.
seanferd Updated - 27th Aug 2011
Balance of Terror is a pretty fine episode. Very submarine-warfare-like.

No comment on jumping the shark. Starfleet is only partially a military organization, and Chakotay is a former Starfleet officer turned* terrorist. Not sure how the crew would really react to such an action.

But you have to realize that nearly every secondary crisis in any flavor of Star Trek is brought about by Starfleet personnel letting someone get the drop on them, right after executing there duties very effectively. (Nearly all popular TV writing and/or directing pretty much sucks when viewed at all critically, at least in the end-product. You just have to ignore the constant fail and follow the well-done bits.)

* Edited because TR thinks Latin is a foul language.
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NextGen - Data's Day - one of the best, imho. Voyager...well...pretty much best forgotten.
And then there's Deep Space Nine...
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I've always wondered, in "The Doomsday Machine", it's cone shaped, has only one point it can shoot from & they attack it from the front?

I like the episode but have to wonder about the logic of that
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Plotonium...
svpaladin@... 28th Aug 2011
The doomsday machine was built with some "plot-onium" metal that was completely invulnerable to everything...

So, the "logical" method of attack was to find the only holes in the plotonium, which, as scientifically figured in the 60s, was where the guns stick out of the hull.

Of course, the only way to get an explosion big enough to affect the ship was to, well, blow up a cruiser. And, it couldn't be a functioning cruiser (since the automated systems would detect the threat and use it's anti-planet cannons), which is why the conveniently crippled USS Constitution was sent to her doom with Kirk doing a last minute getaway...
For the World is Hollow, and I Have Touched the Sky. They who lived in a cylindrical spacecraft and had forgotten the nature of their environment. Climbing to the sky was possible, but taboo, remember?
... got the old mental gears turning about religion in general.
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I happen to like the space hippie episode, although your synopsys is pretty much right on. "Are you one?"
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We reach.
seanferd 27th Aug 2011
I like the episode, it's just that the hippies (and that guy's ears!) are really poorly done. The story is good, they just make it difficult to watch. laugh
How can "The Alternative Factor" - the worst episode of all time - not be on this list? Is it so bad everyone refuses to even acknowledge it exists?
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Well.....
mustang84 1st Sep 2011
I kinda liked the underlying concept, even if the plot and budget were well minimized.
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I think some of the problems on TOS were due to budget constraints, especially in Season 3. They seemed to have had to use existing costumes and sets from other TV shows or movies like gangsters ("A Piece of the Action"), Nazis ("Patterns of Force") and westerns ("Spectre of the Gun"). As laughable as it was, "The Turnabout Intruder" is one of my favorite episodes, featuring some of Shatner's "finest" acting ("I am Captain Kirk! You will obey my orders!"). Even the worst of TOS is better than 95% of the crap on TV these days.
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Patterns of force was one of my favorite episodes, once you get past the names of the "space-jews".

The way they moralized "absolute power corrupts absolutely" and "even the best of intentions can go awry" sure left quite an impression on me when I was a kid. I was excited when I found the book with this episode novelized, I hated the period where "all things nazi" was quietly banned from the airwaves and I never saw this episode...
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You dare compile a list of the 5 Worst Star Trek episodes and you leave off "Miri"?!?

It featured Kim Darby, Michael J. Pollard, and that goofy kid who seemed to be channeling Jerry Lewis.

I mean, even the writer regrets writing it! His own wife screams in terror whenever it airs
I enjoyed every show of every program. NG, Original, Enterprise, DS9, Voyager. I knew this period of nothing in production would come. It would be nice to see something new, even if it's some variation of a time parallax. As my son always points out the stupid technical mistakes, I just respond "just watch the show".
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The pilot-episodes were really the best ones, classic sci-fi. A lot of these shows regular episodes suffer when they have a whole hour to tell a half-hour story but the pilots rocked. Trek went up the boob-tubes when Kirk started getting on to every female that moved on alien and not-alien worlds.

I never got into the future generations. However, some things never changed: Pajamas.
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...they were fun to watch.
Heck I was only 16. StarTrek beat most
of the other cr*p on TV then.
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No Way
verd@... 29th Aug 2011
That list is not any good...
the worst one is "The Empath"
I see that there are not any "TRUE" Trekkies here
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Spock's Brain
DainSt.John 29th Aug 2011
Such a pity that this continues to make the worst eposide list. The interaction and dialog between Spock and McCoy is classical. We may have come to see Kirk womanizing, but we stayed for the exchanges between Spock and McCoy.
I would bump out "The Omega Glory" for this one. Kirk, Spock, and McCoy at the OK Corral. DeForest Kelly actualy played one of the Earp brothers in "Gonfight at the OK Corral".

The 3rd season was the worst. Did you know Gene had no involvement with Star Trek production during the last season. NBC screwed him on a time-slot deal. The guy driving the show in the 3rd season basicaly wanted "t*ts in space" and that is what he did. Read David Gerold's book "The Making of Star Trek" for the full story.
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I find the better series are those that have an actual story arc life cycle plan. Babylon 5 was the first I know of that had a planned start and finish, with episodes building on each other, as well as a sprinkling of stand alone episodes.
ST:TOS didn't have one.
ST:TNG didn't have one.
ST:DS9 appears to have been the start of seasonally planned story arcs in Star Trek.
ST:VOY had some planning, but seems to have forgotten it halfway through each season. The feel is more like being in a mad galactic pinball machine than an actual trek back to home.
ENT isn't even in the same Star Trek universe. I was really disappointed by the collection of what should have been very good actors deliver a boring and disjointed product.
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In defense of TOS, in the 1960s nobody had story arcs. The concept didn't exist, at least on US network television. It wasn't around much in the 1980s when NG was spawned, outside of limited 'mini-series' (Roots, etc.).
in order of movie release:
1) Star Trek the movie - in search of work for the Enterprise Actors
2) Wrath of Kahn - the search for a job for Ricardo Montalbahn (too many mistakes made
(i.e. kahn couldn't have remembered Checkov - he wasn't in the crew on 'Space
Seed')
3) The Search for Spock - Love Labours Lost (Vulcan Style) and the 'Exodus of Genesis
4) The Voyage Home - aka The Search for Whales (although it had great shots of the
Monterey (not San Francisco) based Aquarium
5) The Search for God (and Sybok - Spocks never beforementioned long lost brother)
6) The Search for a home for the Klingons - what - FEMA had no extra Trailers (with
tractor beams and environmental force felds) to pass around?

I'll leave the "joint" movies [original and next generation] for another post.

Not sure if it was deliberate - but Kirk's directive 'Second star to the right and straight on til morning" probably cost Paramount a fair chunk of change to the holders of the 'Peter Pan' copyright.

Live long and prosper! \\ //,
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A few notes...
P.F. Bruns 29th Aug 2011
1) Star Trek the movie - in search of work for the Enterprise Actors

There were some nice touches, especially, as was pointed out above, the classic naval tradition of taking the skipper around the refit Enterprise. Also, the Director's Cut, edited by director Robert Wise, shows the skill of the man who edited "Citizen Kane." It's not too bad, on balance, except maybe for the uniforms.

2) Wrath of Kahn - the search for a job for Ricardo Montalbahn (too many mistakes made
(i.e. kahn couldn't have remembered Checkov - he wasn't in the crew on 'Space
Seed')

Khan (He's Indian, not German Jewish) could easily have remembered Chekov: remember that the original Enterprise had between 400 and 430 crewmembers at any given time. You could have pointed out that giving each starship a FIVE-CHARACTER CODE that would allow anyone to disarm her shields was an incredibly bad idea, or something like that. Either way, this one is still my favorite OG Trek film.

3) The Search for Spock - Love Labours Lost (Vulcan Style) and the 'Exodus of Genesis

Don't forget "Losin' It."

4) The Voyage Home - aka The Search for Whales (although it had great shots of the Monterey (not San Francisco) based Aquarium

Hey, you made it through this one without a Scotty joke! More than I could do.

5) The Search for God (and Sybok - Spocks never beforementioned long lost brother)

Half-brother--and I hardly ever talk about mine either.

6) The Search for a home for the Klingons - what - FEMA had no extra Trailers (with tractor beams and environmental force felds) to pass around?

Now I'm thinking of the Klingon equivalent of the 24-hour news cycle ("You have not heard Wolf Blitzer's Situation Room until you have heard it in the original Klingon.")

Not sure if it was deliberate - but Kirk's directive 'Second star to the right and straight on til morning" probably cost Paramount a fair chunk of change to the holders of the 'Peter Pan' copyright.

Pretty sure the Great Ormond Street Hospital, which owns the copyright by bequest from the J.M. Barrie estate, let this one go; then again, other than Disney, much of the U.S. is largely ignoring the Great Ormond Street Hospital's exercise of those rights. Alan Moore even published a porno comic called "Lost Girls" with a porn version of Wendy Darling.

But I digress.

Live long and prosper!
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Omega Glory
hheightman 29th Aug 2011
Go back and watch the end of this episode. Kirk recited the preamble to the Declaration of Independence, NOT the pledge.
They were all pretty good, considering the time period. How many of you are over 60? If you were at least college age back in 1966 (to 69), you would understand (as long as you weren't spaced out on that "wacky-tabacky" as many students were back then). Those of you who have only seen reruns in much later years, haven't a clue as how that era was. You had the Viet-Nam war going on, Kennedy had been assassinated (1963), the cold war was still going strong with both Russia and China as adversaries. MLK and Bobby Kennedy were both assassinated. The mind set of people in this country was totally different than today. We were also on our way to the moon as the space race was on. While there was still political sniping, it was nowhere near as vitriolic as it is today. The original Star Trek was a "period" series. Roddenberry was able to address a lot of the hot topics of the time period by "moving them to outer space". Captain Kirk kissing Uhura - that just didn't fly too well in many parts of the country back then, but the way Roddenberry handled it made it acceptable. Remember too, this was not a "big-budget" series. A lot of the props were totally hokey. In the world of computers, IBM had just transitioned its customers from the 1400 series to the 360 series (now Z series) and still gave software away for free and no Copyrights nor patents at that time. Yes, if you compare what was done back then to today's time frame, some of those shows would seem lame, but not back then.
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What made this show was the special effects, which for a 1-hr TV show were pretty good. It's sooooo much better with the sound off.
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I can't remember the name of it... but it was the episode where the original Trek cast all went on vacation and were puffed in the face by those flowers. They became giddy and totally out of character. Spock started smiling and Scotty was upside down, hanging from a tree branch. Kirk was trying to keep everyone in line and fight off the skimpy clad women with 60's style puffed up hair, while under the influence of those flowers. That had to be the worst one.
And the Children Shall Lead episode may look a little 'corny' but when (and if) we grow up and have children, we as parents should we sure we are doing our part in educating values to them. Only those teachings and the effort we put in teaching them will give them some of the tools to discern what is reasonable and unreasonable and let them be ready to go 'where no one has gone before".
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Contributr
Sharpen your knives, gang.
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woohoo!
seanferd 21st Sep 2011
sharpening underway
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Next Generation
penngwyn 24th Sep 2011
The email announcing this item specifies, in its subject line "5 worst STAR TREK: THE NEXT GENERATION Episodes" -- apparently inaccurately....

At our house, the catchphrase for TNG became "DNA doesn't work that way this week."
Like, for instance, the episode where an energy being decided to experience what it is to exist materially by invading Counsellor Troi's body and using her DNA to construct a foetus and be born. Blonde, blue-eyed, and male. From HER DNA??? Other catchphrase? "What branch of science shall we botch this week?"
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All of the Star Trek movies, episode, spin off's, etc are nothing more than a whimsical bit of fantasy. They all try and make it look like there is no class distinctions in the future but each and every one of them have different color uniforms representing the command class, the technical class, and of course the plebes..

I found the most entertaining parts of this genre, was to bet on which one of the security team would die first. Come on, everyone knew that someone of this class was bound to die.

Of course, each of the ST episodes tried to deal with or highlight our own failings of a society and sometimes tried to provide alternative solutions no matter how bad they were.

I guess no-one remembers the Scott Backula episodes when they tried to resurect the beginnings of ST. The only saving grace was to see how skimpy Jolen Blalock outfilts could get, similar to 7 of 9... Nothing else mattered when they came on the set.. LOL
Cat's Paw is without a doubt my least favorite episode. I am shocked that it didn't even make the list.
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That episode would have worked if mental instability instead of sex had been the factor that eliminated Lester from consideration for the captaincy.

I never saw Uhura lose her sh*t.
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Bingo
P.F. Bruns 16th Jun
Heck, Lester could have been male. In fact, much as happened in the novel Uhura's Song, circumstance could have forced Uhura to take command. She's either third or fourth in line, if I recall, since she's a department officer.
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