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        <title><![CDATA[It's all about power.]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[New CEOs come in they want to remove any threats to their power. In an old company like HP this involves shutting down the divisions that have been there a long time. That's why the calculator division was shut down at HP years ago, it got rid of all the old guys who had been there forever and knew everyone. It was the same thing with Leo. If he had got away with getting rid of all the hardware divisions no one could have challenged him. One thing that people have to remember is that these guys have nothing to lose. Leo had already won the lottery, he got 25 million no matter what he did. The only motivation remanding to him was power. He made his bid for absolute power, it failed, so now he has to spend his life on his yacht.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[doug@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Tue, 11 Oct 2011 07:32:32 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[PC Margin]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[There is no margin perhaps in PC hardware, but other less commodity hardware has good margins.  Do you think Apple only makes 3% on iPads, and iPhones?  Do you think HP, IBM, and Oracle only make 3% on their large servers and IBM on it's Mainframes?  Do you think EMC only makes 3% on it big storage arrays?  The big problem HP had this time was they brought in a CEO that only knew about software and services because that is all SAP sells, and that CEO didn't want to bother to learn about other areas of the business.  HP has a lot of still good hardware, for now.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[maj37]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2011 12:46:41 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Seldom]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[He didn't say it never happens he said it &quot;seldom happens&quot;.  In addition like Baldrick9 said DEC didn't collapse completely it got weakened and was bought by Compaq.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[maj37]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2011 12:38:20 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[HP suicided years ago]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[HP suicided years ago, back when Compaq bought Digital and HP bought Compaq, moved to selling over-priced low-quality printers, cameras... and turned their backs on their core competency in electronics instruments.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Professor8]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2011 12:26:08 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[wall street]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[HP's tradition, according to the Dave Packard book, was to fund from inside, not from Wall Street. Carly changed that, and spent most of her time schmoozing The Street. Which means they, who are all about &quot;short-term-gains and making the trading floor look good&quot; had much more influence upon what HP did, than they should have. But Carly did what Carly knew. The Board should have known that when they hired her. So I'm not blaming Carly, I'm blaming the Board. And for hiring Meg Whitman (which I also assumed was a media joke/rumor) I blame the Board. They are on drugs, and not the good kind.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[tavent]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2011 10:06:16 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Where is Hewlett-Packard?]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[HP as it is today, is going down.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[ScarF]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2011 10:06:01 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Wow]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Mr. Bush,... thank you for the negative votes. It's a reassurance to take them from you.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[ScarF]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2011 10:02:59 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Meg Whitman?]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Aaaaah. She's a republican. This tells it all.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[ScarF]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2011 06:50:32 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Than,]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[the CEOs and the rest of the executive gang are nothing but outrageously overpaid individuals for no merits at all. Off with their heads!]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[ScarF]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2011 06:33:15 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Are shareholders demanding so much margin]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[that they're killing off major American businesses? Are the boardrooms doing the same? Is this what drives the recent tendency to micromanage companies previously loaded with highly experienced and driven experts?Learn the answers to these and more questions in the next installment of &quot;Death of an Innovator&quot;!]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[_Papa_]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2011 18:50:29 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[My sentiments similarly]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[I have 4 HP computers, I had 2 HP Pocket PC's, And pretty much grew up with HP's second-to-none test equipment. I have been a loyal supporter all my adult life and part of my youth. I and heartbroken to see what used to be among the greatest American technology companies evaporating into an also-ran backroom outfit. I've got some Dells I've had pretty good luck with. Maybe I'll convert.Since this HP business is behaving so much like MS, I might go Linux, too.]]></description>
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        <pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2011 18:38:29 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Yes NMCI is a Contracted Services...]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Guess what they did last night? They pushed a script to enforce Smart Card Log-Ins, *even* on Developer Accounts. Locking untold numbers out of their developer accounts. (Developers have two accounts a locked down account via Smart Card and a slightly less locked down developer account.)No warning. Just run patches and let the chips fall where they may. At least Intel Corp tested patches before deploying them!No HP Hardware and HP Services have the same game plan the Customefr doesn't matter!DOOMED!]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[SpiritualMadMan]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2011 15:31:13 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[R.I.P. innovation]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Once upon a time, Wall Street and shareholders were a necessary part of the equation; they provided capital to grow the industry, create innovative products, create employment, and benefit the community.When all these pieces fit and worked, everyone benefitted, including the shareholder.Something changed.Wall street and shareholders now rule absolutely and forget about everything else.Greed and &quot;15 minute marriages&quot; by the Street are slowly destroying everything that made this Country great. A shame, really.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[da philster]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2011 11:42:42 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[HP (wrong) Way (still)]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[HP is micro managed by an army of spreadsheet mechanics thousands of miles from the front with no idea of local conditions or requirements. You can???t even get a mobile phone without it being signed off by the VP of your region. Not even the country manager has the authority for final approval.HP has become a white collar sweatshop obsessed with the shareholders at the expense of all else. The workers are mere cannon fodder in the battle to win the hearts and minds of the shareholders]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Colinza]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2011 05:51:04 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[HP]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Doomed. My organization recently entered into a purchase agreement with HP and the level of service I have received has been, to put it kindly, atrocious. Over 2 weeks to get a billing address put into the HP B2B portal? Unacceptable.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[sabrina b]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2011 05:03:51 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[HP]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[I don't know much about the internal workings of HP, but for the last 7 years I have been a loyal customer purchasing 3 (personal use) laptops, a digital camera and a printer all HP products.I chose each of my products based upon features and value (HP always seemed to offer more of the features I was looking for at prices below the competition's lesser-equipped models)For the reasons mentioned above, I hope HP sticks around and reconsiders the apparent decision to exit the PC business.Rick C. @rcl4rk]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[rcl4rk]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2011 04:28:17 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[New HP CEO]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Most of the comments above correctly distill the problem - HP can only survive if it can sell products or services (or both) which customers want to buy. The first mistake is to try and sell those products/services as cheap as possible - NO - customers will remain loyal, and happily pay a premium for percived quality/added value. HP printers have always been a bit more expensive, but they are (sorry- were) percieved as being better.As soon as a company loses customer loyalty (easily done) by cutting on the service/quality they are doomed. This is where HP is now.Can they turn round? - well yes BUT this is very difficult and is done by first admitting to the errors made, second getting leadership with charisma (to rebuild staff moral and public perception), third by getting leadership to produce inovative new products/services which, again the public can see as novel, and desirable. (See Apple for all of the above).Career CEOs and accountants will not save HP]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[admin@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2011 02:22:57 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[No payrises]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[I agree with Colinza, I'm supposed to be an architect on the cutting edge of designing and rolling out HP's much-vaunted Cloud initiative, but apparently there hasn't been any money to train me or give me payrises or bonuses since 2006. There is however, enough money to employ 3 layers of new management between me and my previous manager in the last 9 months, they were presumably hired to cut costs?With regards to Meg Whitman, I honestly thought it was a practical joke when that was announced, because they couldn't have selected a worse candidate. Then I found out it was for real and had to laugh out loud at the continued ineptitude of the HP board.The only way to save the company is to sack the entire board, move all the senior managers into accountancy roles and put an entrepeneur engineer in charge.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[spawnywhippet]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2011 01:50:08 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[HP (Wrong) WAY]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Most, if not all, people working in HP Technology Services worldwide, have not had salary increases in over 7 YEARS!How do you sustain morale and focus under these conditions?How does the cloud based HP board expect anyone to function in the marketplace with these restraints? They can???t always buy their way out of a tight corner through dubious aquisitions. There is no long-term continuity in this company.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Colinza]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2011 00:10:25 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[HP has forgotten who they are]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[HP forgot they were a test-and-measurement company.  Computers and stuff were sexy; instruments weren't.  So they spun off the T&amp;M business, and Agilent is doing sort of okay on their own.Then Leo decided to get out of the PC, tablet, and printer business.  The only original HP content in that list was the printers.  HP forgot that their printer business paid the light bills for all the other divisions during the hard times.One more thing:  HP killed their calculator business because, as the CEO falsely declared, it wasn't &quot;profitable.&quot;  It was actually turning a profit and paying its own bills.  What it wasn't doing was generating a large enough percentage of HP's revenue to carry any weight in the executive offices.  HP forgot that HP had created the high-end calculator, and that satisfied users of HP calculators went on to buy other HP products.  (You can still buy an HP calculator, but it's a piece of crap.  That's a story for another time.)Until HP remembers who they are, and what made HP successful (and unique), they will never again be successful, no matter who the CEO is.  Most of HP's older rank and file remember.  Most of the executives, from division manager on up, have no idea.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[rrdepew]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2011 22:28:03 -0700</pubDate>
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