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Meh
At the risk of being tagged another "rude, temperamental, anti-social user" who's "stuck in the past" (not that I care, really), I think finding new environments to which Linux may be applied is always a good idea. However, this whole "my desktop is better than yours" nonsense, combined with the current SOP of throwing what works under the bus because it's not "new" should end, before Linux usage, outside of pure hobby and/or super techie realm, ends altogether.
Honestly, these idiotic graphical desktop distros are not what makes Linux, Linux. The Kernel and the collection of UNIX-mimicking binary applications are what make Linux the OS to be reckoned with. The GUI stuff, more often than not, creates just as many problems as it professes to solve. Heaven forbid that someone should get it right, even once, because there'll be some troublemaker waiting along the sidelines with a "fresh" version of Glib or GTK+ that obsoletes all previous versions (and all the proper working applications that used it), and the usual herd of lemmings will chase after that new, shiny thing, crying "Upgrade, upgrade, upgrade ...". What was done? Oh, the case of the externs was changed (not in the release notes).The order was rearranged, too. Some stuff was added in the middle, and at the end. You can't build older applications against it now, unless you want to spend weeks modifying them. But who cares? Nobody of account uses those old applications anyhow. Right? Oh bother.
There's nothing inherently wrong with the concept of GUI interfaces, but the competition to have the "best" and to have it on corporate and government desktops around the world, would be better were it a quality-driven task, as opposed to the propaganda-driven one which presently exists.
Referencing Distrowatch makes me giggle, something I do very little anymore, and Mandriva in particular, who have decided to shove sluggish KDE4 down their user's throats. What fun! And, just how many new distros appear each year that are merely repackaged Ubuntu-something? Take a basic Ubuntu and juice it up with your favorite applications and presto! You've got a new distro. Just make sure you give it a really silly name - one that'll stick in everyone's mind (like the Oscar Meyer wiener song), or you'll never make the list. It isn't really new, but it's yours and if you hawk well, you'll be very popular: high on the list; That is, until next month when your nemesis dethrones you. Or, you could be like Fedora, with your own little group of devotees who do nothing more with their computers than install your latest releases, and no sooner have they done that, then they begin salivating for the next one.
Seriously, people who want to develop and produce a Linux distro should be more concerned about bug-free releases, perpetual support for primary system libraries, (you can add on to them, but don't modify or rearrange the external references, symbols, and entry points), maintaining reasonable backward compatibility, instead of worrying so much about the artistic qualities of the desktop display while trashing everything you don't like.
Someone should try it and see what happens, since what's been going on doesn't seem to foster anything but peeing contests.
Honestly, these idiotic graphical desktop distros are not what makes Linux, Linux. The Kernel and the collection of UNIX-mimicking binary applications are what make Linux the OS to be reckoned with. The GUI stuff, more often than not, creates just as many problems as it professes to solve. Heaven forbid that someone should get it right, even once, because there'll be some troublemaker waiting along the sidelines with a "fresh" version of Glib or GTK+ that obsoletes all previous versions (and all the proper working applications that used it), and the usual herd of lemmings will chase after that new, shiny thing, crying "Upgrade, upgrade, upgrade ...". What was done? Oh, the case of the externs was changed (not in the release notes).The order was rearranged, too. Some stuff was added in the middle, and at the end. You can't build older applications against it now, unless you want to spend weeks modifying them. But who cares? Nobody of account uses those old applications anyhow. Right? Oh bother.
There's nothing inherently wrong with the concept of GUI interfaces, but the competition to have the "best" and to have it on corporate and government desktops around the world, would be better were it a quality-driven task, as opposed to the propaganda-driven one which presently exists.
Referencing Distrowatch makes me giggle, something I do very little anymore, and Mandriva in particular, who have decided to shove sluggish KDE4 down their user's throats. What fun! And, just how many new distros appear each year that are merely repackaged Ubuntu-something? Take a basic Ubuntu and juice it up with your favorite applications and presto! You've got a new distro. Just make sure you give it a really silly name - one that'll stick in everyone's mind (like the Oscar Meyer wiener song), or you'll never make the list. It isn't really new, but it's yours and if you hawk well, you'll be very popular: high on the list; That is, until next month when your nemesis dethrones you. Or, you could be like Fedora, with your own little group of devotees who do nothing more with their computers than install your latest releases, and no sooner have they done that, then they begin salivating for the next one.
Seriously, people who want to develop and produce a Linux distro should be more concerned about bug-free releases, perpetual support for primary system libraries, (you can add on to them, but don't modify or rearrange the external references, symbols, and entry points), maintaining reasonable backward compatibility, instead of worrying so much about the artistic qualities of the desktop display while trashing everything you don't like.
Someone should try it and see what happens, since what's been going on doesn't seem to foster anything but peeing contests.
Posted by wa7qzr@...
13th Dec 2011
