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BALTHOR 26th Dec 2011
WinRar,VBox,YouTube Downloader,I like GoldMemory and Active Boot Disk but they're like DOS,7zip,a good CD DVD program like ArcSoft,Roxio,or Nero.
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HAL 9000 26th Dec 2011
Some form of AV is always first after Windows & It's Drivers get Loaded.

I've gone right off M$ Security Essentials as it takes a long time to open when you start Windows and is an attack vector.

Then depending on the client and their use things change from there but I always add Office if that's what they are using and then fully Patch the System.

Col
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Errr....
Gisabun 27th Dec 2011
Are you sure it's MSE that's clogging it? In any case, it is not a critical compared to a firewall that's slowing things down. You aren't expected to get a virus on startup - but if you open something or download something.
Only thing I don't like about MSE is that it only checks for updates once a day. If you want it more than often, you need to run something in the scheduler to do so.
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I've gone right off M$ Security Essentials as it takes a long time to open when you start Windows and is an attack vector.

It doesn't open till after the OS Starts looking on the Net for things and that is on a Win 7 64 Bit and Security Essentials only load. Open the Task Manager and Security Essentials as soon as Windows Opens and watch to see what happens.

Security Essentials doesn't go from Red to Green till after the OS Starts downloading Data. That is what worries me more than anything else a short period of time that Data is coming in without any AV Product running.

Col
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Still....
Gisabun 2nd Jan 2012
Still. You aren't expecting to open up a potential virus on start up. In addition, it is your firewall that is securing your system on start-up.

Theoretically, you can be like a Mac user [of the old days] and not have an anti-virus and just a firewall. You can be careful but at one point you probably will be hit.
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HAL 9000 Updated - 2nd Jan 2012
For me it would be OK but not something I trust many of the customers to do safely. wink

I've seen this happen on about 15 systems now and all where new Loads of just Windows and MSE over several different hardware combinations. Basically that means just a install of the OS and MSE no System Makers Grudge.

And While it's not definitive it's also 100% so it worries me.

By the same Token AVG also has an interesting Bug. Do a Manual Update and when the Initial Definition Search reaches 4 KB it reads 4 GIG so there is most defiantly a coding error there. grin

Col
MSE just starts out by assuming that it's out-of-date (red). Once it's had time to check it's definitions it will change to green. That's got nothing to do with whether it's actively protecting you or not.
MSE security client starts before connection to the network is established and so is working; and only turns green when network connection is made to update real-time protection.
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MSE
Alienwilly 10th Jan 2012
You may have another issue, My MSE takes only a few seconds to be up and running with a green house and white check.
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My five
Vern Anderson 26th Dec 2011
I use http://ninite.com/ to quickly download and install...

1. Avast
2. Chrome, Firefox, and Opera
3. Thunderbird
4. Foxit Reader
5. Paint.NET
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Nah...
Gisabun 27th Dec 2011
Wouldn't touch avast with a ten foot pole. FRee version is worse. Working at a place with the "Pro"/managed version. Clients were up to date. And yet it couldn't detect the fake AV crap out there [but this was 3 years ago - may have changed].
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No, it hasn't
pheck123 2nd Jan 2012
Used to install Avast Free on client's PC's - moved over to AVG Free. Much smoother and catches almost everything (plus they like the price...)
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As new versions are released, the "best" or "favorite" A/V program changes.
I used to use AVG, but since MS Security Essentials was released, I've never gone back to AVG. Just last month I had MSE catch several threats that AVG missed on another computer on the same network. Just out of curiosity, I installed and ran MSE on the PC running AVG, and MSE found the threats on that PC as well, (which AVG missed).
Also, with MSE, I don't have to deal with it asking me to upgrade to a paid version all the time.

Speaking of paid A/V products, my current favorite is ESET NOD32. We have a test lab that we regularly throw viruses at 4 computers on it, each running a different "paid" A/V product. ESET has detected 99%, Norton 91%, Trend Micro 90%, and McAfee 88%.
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A/V
Alienwilly 3rd Jan 2012
I like the MSE for same reasons. How does the Viper AV hold up under those tests?
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Vipre...
bbeckers@... 4th Jan 2012
I have to admit that I have not tested Vipre in quite some time... Even though we sell other GFI products...
I think I may have to do some testing with it again.
is foolish. None of them are 100% effective. Some are more reliable than others but anyone that thinks their pet program is the absolute best and nothing will get past will eventually be disappointed.
Personally, I have been happy with Avast as my primary and MalwareBytes as an on-demand backup scanner since I disposed of Norton several years ago.

When I work on someone's computer now I recommend MSE if they do not already have an A/V. Easy to use, light on system resources, and as effective as any other free solution I have used.
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My Apps...
Lil ndn Updated - 28th Dec 2011
Ditto the above with one exception, instead of Paint.net I include Privoxy. Love that filtering set-up for ad removal, etc. Also, these three we used religiously as well for years: CCleaner, RevoUninstaller and Malwarebytes. I've used avast free since 4.* up till went with paid Suite version and never have had any probs with it allowing fake AV wares.
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Great Installer
atemjohn 3rd Jan 2012
Thank you for sharing it.
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1. Microsoft Security Essentials (Free)
2. COMODO Firewall (Free)
3. Evernote (Free)
4. Chrome (Free)
5. WinRAR
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Pemath 27th Dec 2011
Everything below is free
1. Microsoft Security Essentials
2. Comodo Firewall plus
3. Ccleaner
4. RevoUninstaller
5. Malwarebytes
Macrium Reflect for disk imaging
FBackup4 for file backups
Foxit Reader
To me Ccleaner, RevoUninstaller and Malwarebytes are unique and irreplaceable but there are worthy alternatives for the other applications - I just prefer those.
I know it's not fair to not stay within the parameters of the question but these and a couple more are a must for the systems I set up.

Happy new year and smooth computing to all:)
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One thing
Gisabun 27th Dec 2011
You don't need to install CCleaner if you don't want to. Just copy the EXE from another system. it's "portable".
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Piriform
pheck123 2nd Jan 2012
Love me some Piriform
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Kent Lion 2nd Jan 2012
Right, why immediately install something you probably don't even need? Over the years, I've used CC Cleaner as a last resort after nothing else has helped, and found it also doesn't help (noticeably improve performance), even though it always finds all kinds of stuff to fix and junk to delete.
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It works wonders if you're working on PCs for non-techs.
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Love CCleaner - free and it works very well. I'm a freelance tech - I work on anything from Win95 (yes, there are at least 2 PC's in the free world that use it) to Win7.

As a rule of thumb I install CCleaner first as most of them are so slow you can't do anything until some garbage is cleaned off. Then AVG Free. Nice simple AV that nearly anyone can use. Then Adaware Free to get all the malware stuck in nooks and crannies. Then whatever else the system needs. I usually advise against IE and install Firefox if they are familiar with it but recommend Chrome.

Then of course, it's off to Add/Remove programs to see what kind of crap has been downloaded "by their kids" of course...and remove the 7 tool bars they are currently running in their IE....
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I believe that Secunia PSI is a must to keep the systems patched.
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So....
Gisabun 2nd Jan 2012
You need another piece of software to check to see if your applications are up to date in addition to what is used by Microsoft, Adobe, Apple, DivX, RIM, .... You can't stop most of those I mentioned.
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RevoUninstaller

Then I delete all the crap that the manufacturer junked up the machine with, then I start downloading.
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After Windows and Office:
1. MS Security essentials
2. Memeo backup
3. IOBit's Advanced System Care
4. Daemon tools lite (virtual CD/DVD drive)
5. Paint.net
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My first six
psivert@... Updated - 27th Dec 2011
Security essentials
Regcure
Malwarebytes
Wincleaner
Alcohol 120
Winrar
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Make that 5
Kent Lion 2nd Jan 2012
I've yet to see a Registry fixer/cleaner cure a single symptom, even if it fixes hundreds of errors... I only try them when nothing else helps, to confirm that fixing the registry also won't help.
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My first 5
scottm75032 27th Dec 2011
1. MS Security essentials ( Free )
2. Oracle VM VirtualBox ( Free )
3. MagicDisc ( Free )
4. Firefox ( Free )
5. WinRAR
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COMODO Firewall (Free)
Irfanview multimedia editing tool
Firefox
CCleaner
Malwarebytes
Thunderbird
Evernote
MSSE
Ccleaner
Malwarebytes
Mozy
Logmein
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But then I discovered Teamveiwer which does not require me spend money to be able to access it from my phone or tablet. All else being equal, free trumps subscription.
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MSE
MS Office Pro
Power ISO
WinRar
Display Fusion
BTW Windows SnipIt tool works as good or if not better than TechSmith SnagIt
Windows Snipping Tool is a PITA. Snip and Save is about all you can do. Forget any post-snip editing. Like the articles's author, I do a lot of screenshots and without the ability to mark up an image, the image is useless.

SnagIt is the bomb.
Acrobat Reader.
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pfred1@spot:~$ acroread -v
9.3.3
pfred1@spot:~$
I go with Foxit for PDF reading. Much faster and less hassel than adobe products.
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Adobe Reader is a bloated monster. Foxit Reader is better.
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1.) I don't use daemontools or recommend it anymore, since they started slipping in a toolbar in the installer. Now I use virtual clonedrive.

3.)With Windows 7 (maybe Vista too), I use the "Snipping Tool" built in, in the accessories folder. Does the basic screen grab stuff and is always there, which is good for me because I'm not usually working on "my" computer. I like to assign a hotkey to it, like "Ctrl-Alt-S".
MSSE
Piriform Suite of Tools (CCleaner, Defraggler, & Speccy)
SysinternalsSuite
IsoRecorder
VirtualPC

All which are FREE!
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So you want free?
paulfx1 27th Dec 2011 - Below your threshold / Read Anyway
Linux is free. Works better than Windows does too.
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Top Rated
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Gisabun 27th Dec 2011 Top Rated
Do we care? Nope?
Why is it that these Linux dweebs hang around blogs that are for Windows. [Don't you have something to compile?]
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Hangin' Around?
rob.pilgrim@... Updated - 2nd Jan 2012
I'm here as a Windows 7 user who just happens to have a fast start up Ubuntu 11.10 Dual Boot, which is what I'm reading this on, and that's what I use for my first 'check my Inbox' boot in the morning; but I need W7 for when I work at home during the weekend.

My 'First 5'
VIPRE - Internet Security
Revo Uninstaller
Media Monkey - can't do anything without some music!
Everdesk - for those emails I want to keep, and didn't delete in Ubuntu
Chrome Browser
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If you use Linux. Just the dweeb was giving an opinion that didn't belong here.
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yawn...
Fuzzilla 27th Dec 2011
Who's Linux? Which Windows? As for 'too' I dunno, Windows does 'too' pretty darn well. ;op
Ohh, I'm sorry, You meant "Works better than Windows as well". You know how slow & ignorant us Windows users are.
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DeFrag...
pheck123 2nd Jan 2012
Oops. Forgot about DeFraggler. Love it!
Like the guy who hates registry cleaners (and I agree, BTW,) let me warn against defraggers. I think defragging had it's place around Win95, with s-l-o-w disks, but with today's seek speeds, it's worse than useless. It sits in the tray taking some slice of RAM (and god knows what driver conflicts) for no gain whatsoever. Try this: get yourself the most cluttered drive possible, time ten loads right after boot (Word, Excel, some honkin' large PDF, etc.) then defrag, reboot and do it again. You won't notice a second, if that, on any of the read and loads. Sometimes we forget that, if it's not noticeable to the user, then it's of no use at all.

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