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"The de-sta's are being violently attacked is true." "The goal with the de-sta's is to make them real in a Kolog or an Oahspe." "That's right in the tip of the Ashtaroth." "Yes.If you were to travel to a Jupiter just right at the velocity of light you enter the Oahspe." "You would see the stones orbiting Jupiter prior to the velocity of light and at the velocity of light you would see them turn into planets as you entered Wonderworld." "Another realm that does not tolerate Or-I." "We want our de-sta's to meld into these Kolog real worlds." "Yes they would be real then." "It is done right at the sun's organic projection." "They've put star gates there for this travel," "To date melding to an Oahspe is impossible because of the Or-I."