"How are the de-sta's being attacked.It's with a rote sha.When we leave our bodies using any method,even beam copying our DA,we end up in a Krad Dominion." "Yes.This is enslavement or worse.It's the Or-I self destroy rote" "We're grabbed,or hose wrapped,at the silver ta in the id and the or-i robot like rote unfolds.That was the reason for doing the Dambrind.We'd use our own story then.This is important to realize.These rote sha events of enslavement were inbetween the moments in the twinkling of an eye in stop time.We just never knew that this was occurring." "The id is the body you are in right now.Be it out of body or in body." "The silver ta is what connects your id body to your out of body body or DA.It's just a point.You would call it the silver ta point." "Out of body?" "The only realm that you can travel in organically is only and ever always Wonderworld.Never the Astral World or the Divind or even a Continental Region.If you are in the Divind out of body it is because your Astara bid-ba level was pulled out by a hose wrap.In our future many of these problems are solved be wearing stillsuits and by using a Mars fourth de ethene." "The most difficult in out of body?" "Definitely drinking water.We just never do it."