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I trashed m$ more that 10 years ago. And yes, I check EVERY electronic device I buy to make sure that macroCrap is not the OS of use. There is absolutely no need to pay the exbortatant licensing fees that m$ and Crapple charge to use their devices. Yes, total newbies will probably need some help installing Linux. But they will know more about computers and software when they are done, and that's a good thing.