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Will the final release still block it? Or has this been fixed? Or is there something special I need to do to install MDAC?
I am sorry to say, but my first impression of a screen shot is that the DOS prompt was prettier. This probably shows a huge lack of depth in my character.
Instead swiping around the Metro screen, simply type the name of the program or file you're looking to launch. In Vista and Win7, you'd press your keyboard's Win key first, but in Win8 you simply start typing. (Only works from the Metro screen, not the desktop screen.)
Serious??? Typing in the name of an app every time I want to run it is a step up from a couple of mouse clicks in Start? Rather you than me!
"simply type the name of the program or file you're looking to launch"
I remember that! It was called DOS.
User interfaces are supposed to "progress" not "regress".
I remember that! It was called DOS.
User interfaces are supposed to "progress" not "regress".
Seems like Microsoft is willing to risk another "Vista" in the PC market to gain an "iOS" in the tablet market. It could pay off, especially if they are able to take what they learn and repeat "Windows 7 fixes Vista" when they roll out Windows 9. A risk for sure but one they seem intent on placing their bets on.
I am an onsite computer technician working primarily in the residential setting, and most of my clients are ma and pa average. I can tell you with a high degree of certainty there is going to be some serious resistence on the part of the average consumer to Windows 8 for two reasons:
1. There is just plain too much new about it and many folks don't do that much new very well.
2. There is no way to regain the Windows 7 Start menu easily (apart from some registry tweaks) and this is not going to go over well.
I think the average consumer is going to resist Windows 8 in a big big way.
1. There is just plain too much new about it and many folks don't do that much new very well.
2. There is no way to regain the Windows 7 Start menu easily (apart from some registry tweaks) and this is not going to go over well.
I think the average consumer is going to resist Windows 8 in a big big way.
I agree wholeheartedly at 83 I know a bit about computers having used computing since 1970. Development went in fits and starts until Win XP became the standard. Initially it had its faults but now it does everything a desktop user wants. It is for me the ultimate OS as during its long life all the programs I use reached their best performance.
All programs get improvements over time but eventually they can't be improved so to sell another version the functionality must be changed. These changes often make the program less usable. For example PaintShop Pro improved up to version 9 then Corel "improved" it by getting rid of the full screen display of thumbnails. Similar problems mean that the programs I want do not work on later Windows. Since I am not prepared to spend vast sums of money to get inferior programs to run on Win 7 or 8 I must stay with Win XP to get what I need out of computing. When my current PC fails I think I am going to have to move to Linux so I have started investigating it.
All programs get improvements over time but eventually they can't be improved so to sell another version the functionality must be changed. These changes often make the program less usable. For example PaintShop Pro improved up to version 9 then Corel "improved" it by getting rid of the full screen display of thumbnails. Similar problems mean that the programs I want do not work on later Windows. Since I am not prepared to spend vast sums of money to get inferior programs to run on Win 7 or 8 I must stay with Win XP to get what I need out of computing. When my current PC fails I think I am going to have to move to Linux so I have started investigating it.
Simple Questions...1. What does win 8 do for my desk tops to make the users life easier and more productive that win 7 does not? 2. What does win 8 do that win 7 can't to make my server 2008 infrastructure be better managed, more secure, and my IT workers happier? How would the improvments warrant the justifications for spending XXXX$ and what can I say will be the ROI for such a move? If the answers to the above questions are not much or not tangable then it ain't happening nor will it be recommended.
It will be interesting to see how MS responds, if at all, to questions you and others have asked.
Of course we all have grown to the classic Start button on previous Windows, but now everyone is crying foul with the elimination of the Start button on Windows 8 (it's not official yet).
But just in case Microsoft does decide to get rid of the classic Start button, there's an option to bring it back and make it look exactly like Windows 7..
http://www.stardock.com/products/start8/
I just installed it and it looks great! The best part is those who love the Metro tiles, you can still access it by hitting the classic Start button. I think this is the way Microsoft should go. Bring back the Windows Start button but make it advance by accessing Metro apps. Bazinga!
But just in case Microsoft does decide to get rid of the classic Start button, there's an option to bring it back and make it look exactly like Windows 7..
http://www.stardock.com/products/start8/
I just installed it and it looks great! The best part is those who love the Metro tiles, you can still access it by hitting the classic Start button. I think this is the way Microsoft should go. Bring back the Windows Start button but make it advance by accessing Metro apps. Bazinga!
This is how I have been working for the last 5 years and would like to know if Win8 will get in the way:
1. I need a lot of tools to perform various dev works, so my second XP taskbar is loaded with 38 shortcuts
2. I need to open several Excel sheets: time sheet, dev log, test log,..etc
3. I need to open several Words document: product spec notes, technology notes, customer info...etc
4. I need several instances of Visual Studio at the same time: one for legacy projects, one for current dev project, sometimes I need VC++ 6 or VB6, to trace calls.
5. I need tools to support my dev work: an advance editor like UltraEdit, a file/folder comparaison tool like Beyond compare, a folder search tool like AgenRansack, ProcessMonitor, event viewer, acces to system environment variable, acces to a DOS screen, ..etc
All those need to be easy to start, and it should be easy to swith between one app to another. On XP and W7, I put my main taskbar vertically on the left side, because it allows me to see more icons.
Please don't tell me I won't be able to do this with Win8...
1. I need a lot of tools to perform various dev works, so my second XP taskbar is loaded with 38 shortcuts
2. I need to open several Excel sheets: time sheet, dev log, test log,..etc
3. I need to open several Words document: product spec notes, technology notes, customer info...etc
4. I need several instances of Visual Studio at the same time: one for legacy projects, one for current dev project, sometimes I need VC++ 6 or VB6, to trace calls.
5. I need tools to support my dev work: an advance editor like UltraEdit, a file/folder comparaison tool like Beyond compare, a folder search tool like AgenRansack, ProcessMonitor, event viewer, acces to system environment variable, acces to a DOS screen, ..etc
All those need to be easy to start, and it should be easy to swith between one app to another. On XP and W7, I put my main taskbar vertically on the left side, because it allows me to see more icons.
Please don't tell me I won't be able to do this with Win8...
Though I keep my taskbar on the left side of my right monitor, so that my primary monitor has more space for code.
It also makes doing webex meetings easier cause I can always get to my own task bar quickly.
It also makes doing webex meetings easier cause I can always get to my own task bar quickly.
I saw a recent article about what today's user does with their computer: e-mail, play games, watch movies, send/receive photos, social network, and a couple other 'entertainment' options. The one use/function totally missing from the list? Work.
I'm beginning to think that Microsoft would be absolutely delighted if those of us who still expect an o/s to be functional for work would just get off the train and go to Linux. Well, I was considering saying 'go to [somewhere else],' but Linux is better! Think of all the comments posted here that would go away. Think of nothing but glowing, happy posts of how wonderful it is to be instantly notified every time you get a tweet or a new FB entry. Think of the potential for increased income for Microsoft when they release Windows 8 Desktop Fingerprint and Smudge Cleaner v.1 in either a spray or wipes.
Seriously, though, my question boils down to asking Microsoft if they are no longer interested in that portion of the user base that still uses a computer as a working tool, not a toy. I can't imagine, on a desktop, using a touch screen for my 10+ (social networking-free) hours per day. I can't imagine the waste of time playing clickey-clickey getting to things when, as many have mentioned, using alt+tab is almost instantaneous.
I still run XP on my desktop and W7 on my work laptop. On the laptop, it took a bit of time to customize it, including putting the 'quick launch' toolbar back, but other than that, it's great. I'd consider upgrading the XP machine to W7, but it starts hissing at me if I even think about it. But it's not my primary work machine, so we're both happy.
I have an iPad and a couple touch-screen phone devices, and for those, the touch screen is fine, smudges and all. I'd still not go to a W8 device .. sorry, I don't like the ugly screen and navigating on it is still a pita.
Microsoft is coming across as being totally desperate to 'catch up' to the market. Interesting to note if there is a good piece of software or app that's out there developed by another company, MS simply buys the company in its' desperation to be 'part of the crowd.' Then, as we all know, they basically destroy the product and discard it in favor of newer glitter.
I won't be implementing W8 .. but will see what comes out of W9.
I'm beginning to think that Microsoft would be absolutely delighted if those of us who still expect an o/s to be functional for work would just get off the train and go to Linux. Well, I was considering saying 'go to [somewhere else],' but Linux is better! Think of all the comments posted here that would go away. Think of nothing but glowing, happy posts of how wonderful it is to be instantly notified every time you get a tweet or a new FB entry. Think of the potential for increased income for Microsoft when they release Windows 8 Desktop Fingerprint and Smudge Cleaner v.1 in either a spray or wipes.
Seriously, though, my question boils down to asking Microsoft if they are no longer interested in that portion of the user base that still uses a computer as a working tool, not a toy. I can't imagine, on a desktop, using a touch screen for my 10+ (social networking-free) hours per day. I can't imagine the waste of time playing clickey-clickey getting to things when, as many have mentioned, using alt+tab is almost instantaneous.
I still run XP on my desktop and W7 on my work laptop. On the laptop, it took a bit of time to customize it, including putting the 'quick launch' toolbar back, but other than that, it's great. I'd consider upgrading the XP machine to W7, but it starts hissing at me if I even think about it. But it's not my primary work machine, so we're both happy.
I have an iPad and a couple touch-screen phone devices, and for those, the touch screen is fine, smudges and all. I'd still not go to a W8 device .. sorry, I don't like the ugly screen and navigating on it is still a pita.
Microsoft is coming across as being totally desperate to 'catch up' to the market. Interesting to note if there is a good piece of software or app that's out there developed by another company, MS simply buys the company in its' desperation to be 'part of the crowd.' Then, as we all know, they basically destroy the product and discard it in favor of newer glitter.
I won't be implementing W8 .. but will see what comes out of W9.
Whats to become of the millions of LCD screens filled with Mercury and Arsenic ?? This is nothing more than making present technology obsolete so everybody has to buy all new equipment ! I really hope 8 Flops on its Face !
Those monitors will eventually be discarded anyway, regardless of whether they are replaced with touch monitors or new standard, non-touch LCDs. W8 may accelerate the adoption of touch monitors (how much is debatable), but the old monitors will all die eventually. Their disposal is indeed a problem, but it's been a problem since each consumer opened the carton.
I'm all for using a flat panel monitor until it will no longer work and then recycling it.
Environmentally friendly and wallet friendly!
Environmentally friendly and wallet friendly!
What folder in Windows 8 Explorer is the Metro Start located in ? This is a big question for me because of menu customization. I know where the Start Menu is located in Windows 7, and based on other articles I've read, I don't think the Metro is going to be in the same place. Could you please address this in a Windows newsletter down the road ?
I have Win 7 Pro with Windows Media Center. If I install Windows 8 will Windows Media Center still be there and usable?
For meat and potatoes business purposes Win7 and even XP does everything most business users need and does it quite well. The retraining costs associated with office changes were bad enough although mitigated by add-ons that provided a ribbon tab with the old menu structure as Win7 was with the open source ClassicShell add-on. Then of course theres upgrade and installation costs. In short, the question is what does Win8 offer with respect to regular user productivity that compensates for these costs. The answer for me and many others is not nearly enough.
This UI is simply one step too far. It makes no sense to spend time and money retraining as well as near-term loss of productivity to upgrade because MS thinks there's a better way to do things. I presume that like with Vista there will be a LONG period where downgrades from Win8 are supported. I understand the MS concept of a unitary UI but frankly the usage characteristics across phones, tablets and laptops/desktops are very different. One size fits all thinking with respect to this UI operates in defiance of the reality that each platform has its own usage characteristics. Then of course there's the real issue of annoying and confusing all those office workers and the poor saps that need to support them for nothing having to do with real productivity gains. Conclusion: Win8 - FAIL.
This UI is simply one step too far. It makes no sense to spend time and money retraining as well as near-term loss of productivity to upgrade because MS thinks there's a better way to do things. I presume that like with Vista there will be a LONG period where downgrades from Win8 are supported. I understand the MS concept of a unitary UI but frankly the usage characteristics across phones, tablets and laptops/desktops are very different. One size fits all thinking with respect to this UI operates in defiance of the reality that each platform has its own usage characteristics. Then of course there's the real issue of annoying and confusing all those office workers and the poor saps that need to support them for nothing having to do with real productivity gains. Conclusion: Win8 - FAIL.
loaded the o/s preview on 2nd HDD and after booting could never get to that drive again and the thing even took that drive out of the bios settings. running Acer Aspire M3201 64bit 6gb ram. When tried to power up win8 drive the thing logged me off of win7 ult and shut my sys down. what kind of crap is this?
If you're not prepared to have problems with a pre-release / beta version of an application, don't install it.
C'mon guys think about what you are doing. This article is supposed to be about WHAT are our questions about Windows 8, not a general complaint about the new interface.
I would like to know how well does WIndows 8 bench mark against XP, VIsta, and 7, ON THE SAME HARDWARE. How does it compare to XP, Vista, and 7 using currently available bench marks ON A SINGLE CPU using a 32 bit OS.
How does it compare to XP, Vista, and 7 using currently available bench marks on a dual core CPU using a 64 bit OS.
How does it compare to XP, Vista, and 7 using currently available bench marks on a four or six core CPU using a 64 bit OS.
For what it is worth (NMIMA)
It takes me about 12 hours to install XP on a NEW computer, update it and tweak it until it has all of the application software and features I want, CCleaner, Defraggler, Eraser, Firefox, Foxit Reader, a version of Office, MS or otherwise, etc.
I just spent about 30 hours doing the same thing to Windows 8 Release Preview. It took so long because it was my First Look at installing the OS, and I had to find the tweaks I wanted to create a desktop I liked.
XP is going away period. Vista is following on its heels. Seven does not have a decent tablet user interface. IF MS does not create a user interface that will compete with all of the tablets, smart phones, and Apple products available, we will find ourselves living in a Google world rather than a MS world. Different sure, better maybe, but for sure we will be back at the bottom of the learning curve once again.
I would like to know how well does WIndows 8 bench mark against XP, VIsta, and 7, ON THE SAME HARDWARE. How does it compare to XP, Vista, and 7 using currently available bench marks ON A SINGLE CPU using a 32 bit OS.
How does it compare to XP, Vista, and 7 using currently available bench marks on a dual core CPU using a 64 bit OS.
How does it compare to XP, Vista, and 7 using currently available bench marks on a four or six core CPU using a 64 bit OS.
For what it is worth (NMIMA)
It takes me about 12 hours to install XP on a NEW computer, update it and tweak it until it has all of the application software and features I want, CCleaner, Defraggler, Eraser, Firefox, Foxit Reader, a version of Office, MS or otherwise, etc.
I just spent about 30 hours doing the same thing to Windows 8 Release Preview. It took so long because it was my First Look at installing the OS, and I had to find the tweaks I wanted to create a desktop I liked.
XP is going away period. Vista is following on its heels. Seven does not have a decent tablet user interface. IF MS does not create a user interface that will compete with all of the tablets, smart phones, and Apple products available, we will find ourselves living in a Google world rather than a MS world. Different sure, better maybe, but for sure we will be back at the bottom of the learning curve once again.
HI windows 8 got better support for Mulptiple monitors
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My work machine has 4 monitors, 2 on an ati card, 1 on an old nvidia card, and 1 on the integrated. Aero works perfect across all 4 and the desktop spans across all 4 perfectly as if they were 1 card. How did they improve on perfect?
but one thing I like in Win 8 RP is multi-taskbar support. I like to use a vertical task bar on the right of each monitor but I want each task bar to show only the shortcuts to applications that are on that particular monitor.
Windows 7 does not offer this option so I purchased DisplayFusion to fix for me.
This feature is built into Win 8.
DisplayFusion has one other feature that I find very helpful and I don't see it in Win 8 RP. - The ability to move a window and automatically resize it (or not) to another screen by a shortcut or by clicking a button.
I tend to work on the left screen and park what I am not currently using (but want to see) on the right. Then I bring it back to the left when I want to work in it. I can do that now by clicking a button in the window's title bar or using a hotkey. It's quicker than dragging.
If Win 8 can do that, I will be a happy camper.
Windows 7 does not offer this option so I purchased DisplayFusion to fix for me.
This feature is built into Win 8.
DisplayFusion has one other feature that I find very helpful and I don't see it in Win 8 RP. - The ability to move a window and automatically resize it (or not) to another screen by a shortcut or by clicking a button.
I tend to work on the left screen and park what I am not currently using (but want to see) on the right. Then I bring it back to the left when I want to work in it. I can do that now by clicking a button in the window's title bar or using a hotkey. It's quicker than dragging.
If Win 8 can do that, I will be a happy camper.
It's amazing how many people posted without reading the article. If they couldn't be bothered to spend 90 seconds doing that, how many of them could be bothered to spend a couple of days installing W8 and playing with it?
They are irrelevant if people have to struggle to use the system. The UI is first and foremost a program starter. Why they would so screw it up for the vast number of business legacy users is beyond me. There will be a price to pay if Win7 downgrades are not available until something more suitable is released. This is a release deserving to be ignored by business.
When you load Windows 8 you get all new. The developer preview had it all right, new Metro interface but a Desktop any computer user would be at home with. What are the PC manufacturers going to do when the public, let alone business refuse to buy a product they can't run? There are a lot more mouse and keyboard computers out there than tablets. I can't advise anyone to upgrade to a product I know they will not be able to use without learning a whole new way of doing things. Remember you make it intuitive not harder. Windows 8 is great but a dud if the keyboard mouse user non- touch screen computer is left behind.
merely because people were starting to grasp windows 7, you start this whole noisemaking about windows 8, not putting into cognisance the costs in upgrading and training involved, definately i project a very dismal performance marketwise for windows 8.
by the way whats the pricing for this new OS we are yet to discover how efficient its gonna be.
by the way whats the pricing for this new OS we are yet to discover how efficient its gonna be.
I have trialed both versions of W8 - I do not like either. Its not easy to understand , far from intuitive , in many cases close to unworkable , requires upgrades to hardware and software which equals new significant cost and training - neither of which business can afford and worst of all there is no practical benefit for all this change. In essence an XP system with Office 2007 will provide almost the same business functionality for several years to come and I just do not buy the emotive and marketing nonsense being pushed out by tech writers spruiking the so called benefits of W7 let alone W8 - neither are absolutely necessary or compelling other than Microsoft trying to convince the market masses otherwise. The ONLY winner in this strategy is the financial bottom line for Microsoft. As far as technological advances are concerned W8 is in my opinion Vista Mark 2 and most users will find it hard to adjust and costly. Good luck to Microsoft but they have just about convinced me to defect to Apple as I am sick to death of them ignoring what I want out of an O/S.
Ken
IT Director
Melbourne
Australia
Ken
IT Director
Melbourne
Australia
Eduroam is the common Wireless Network for the educational community (see http://www.eduroam.org).
For an Eduroam site administrator, the best news about Windows 8 is the native support of EAP-TTLS in its wireless client. The lack of this support in past versions has been nightmare for us. We expect that with this version Windows can reach other OS like Linux, MacOS-X or even IOS or Android, where connect to our network has been an easy and direct task for years
For an Eduroam site administrator, the best news about Windows 8 is the native support of EAP-TTLS in its wireless client. The lack of this support in past versions has been nightmare for us. We expect that with this version Windows can reach other OS like Linux, MacOS-X or even IOS or Android, where connect to our network has been an easy and direct task for years
Given some early graphics that Microsoft leaked, (for example as desktop background images or for the logon screen), it seems that it initially wanted to promote it with the logo looking like the mathematical "infinity" symbol (like the 8 but laid down horizontally).
With the intent to say that what you can do with it is unlimited (infinite)
My opinion is that they could still sell as as "Infinite", i.e. like "Unfinished" which is in the same semantic and ethymologic family...
Now they return to the numbered version... May be Windows 8 will only be finished with version 9, in 3 years. The main issue is once again the increased integration of Internet Explorer as part of its core interface to support HTML5/CSS3 and Javascript, along with .Net to replace native x86 code so that it will run on tablets and smartphones not built around the aging x86 architecture but aroud the opensourced ARM architecture (which is licenced to manufacturers that adapt it to produce very different processors that are often incompatible with each other, meaning that there will be a HUGE work on adapting the VM and optimize it to get the same performance with the same power consumption and heat dissipation).
The problem will be a severe degradation of performance : the .Net VM engine is far from being optimized as it should,
The other problem will be the difficulty to make lots of applications running in a compatible way and being integrated in the new HTML5-based UI and in good cooperation (including with the security isolation needed) with the VM.
I even really fear that the new .Net engine will be a nightmare full of bugs and security issues, just to make it work with older native x86 or newer native ARM applications and components that the .Net VM will not support in a decent way.
With the intent to say that what you can do with it is unlimited (infinite)
My opinion is that they could still sell as as "Infinite", i.e. like "Unfinished" which is in the same semantic and ethymologic family...
Now they return to the numbered version... May be Windows 8 will only be finished with version 9, in 3 years. The main issue is once again the increased integration of Internet Explorer as part of its core interface to support HTML5/CSS3 and Javascript, along with .Net to replace native x86 code so that it will run on tablets and smartphones not built around the aging x86 architecture but aroud the opensourced ARM architecture (which is licenced to manufacturers that adapt it to produce very different processors that are often incompatible with each other, meaning that there will be a HUGE work on adapting the VM and optimize it to get the same performance with the same power consumption and heat dissipation).
The problem will be a severe degradation of performance : the .Net VM engine is far from being optimized as it should,
The other problem will be the difficulty to make lots of applications running in a compatible way and being integrated in the new HTML5-based UI and in good cooperation (including with the security isolation needed) with the VM.
I even really fear that the new .Net engine will be a nightmare full of bugs and security issues, just to make it work with older native x86 or newer native ARM applications and components that the .Net VM will not support in a decent way.
While I do agree with much of the criticism leveled at W8 in this thread NONE OF IT IS HELPING. The Article writer asked us for our questions about W8, not for a torrent of hate and assertions that it's wrong for business. You may have well linked to a picture of a cat in front of a laptop with the slogan 'Do not want! Windowscat is confused. I can has Windoze sevn?'
Your criticisms are valid and should be heard......just not here thanks. Mark me down all you like - I don't care, this needed saying (again. Merlin beat me to it).
The big things on my mind are backwards compatibility, Live ecosystem and interface interchangeability.
q1) Will W8 run reasonably well on the current gen laptops and tables?
q2) What improvements will be bade to the MS 'live' ecosystem to compete with the Google and Apple offerings?
q3) Metro is obviously a problem for a lot of people so will MS be releasing other interfaces that can plug into W8's core software to meet other needs more effectively (such as business users)?
Thanks.
Your criticisms are valid and should be heard......just not here thanks. Mark me down all you like - I don't care, this needed saying (again. Merlin beat me to it).
The big things on my mind are backwards compatibility, Live ecosystem and interface interchangeability.
q1) Will W8 run reasonably well on the current gen laptops and tables?
q2) What improvements will be bade to the MS 'live' ecosystem to compete with the Google and Apple offerings?
q3) Metro is obviously a problem for a lot of people so will MS be releasing other interfaces that can plug into W8's core software to meet other needs more effectively (such as business users)?
Thanks.
All the whinges revolve around the Why question.
Convert those whinges into why's it should be quite apparent what the questions are. Unless you need an app to do it for you. that is
Convert those whinges into why's it should be quite apparent what the questions are. Unless you need an app to do it for you. that is
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a) I'm not intelligent enough to understand the point of view behind the complaints expressed here?
b) All the complaints in this thread are really questions in disguise?
As I said, the complaints and opinions expressed here are valid - just not to the OP's original request. Find a W8 feedback forum and post your experiences there, else actually post what your big questions are.
If you don't frame your issues as an obvious query or question then how is the OP supposed to get an article together to answer some of our biggest questions? Writing tech articles about upcoming products is hard enough without having to filter though and potentially second-guess the sort of questions your readership wants you to ask.
I get what you're trying to say but putting myself in the OP's shoes I'd probably miss many of the valid questions hidden behind the criticism because all I would see on my tight deadline is 'complaint, complaint, whinge, opinion, conjecture, complaint, question, complaint.....'
a) I'm not intelligent enough to understand the point of view behind the complaints expressed here?
b) All the complaints in this thread are really questions in disguise?
As I said, the complaints and opinions expressed here are valid - just not to the OP's original request. Find a W8 feedback forum and post your experiences there, else actually post what your big questions are.
If you don't frame your issues as an obvious query or question then how is the OP supposed to get an article together to answer some of our biggest questions? Writing tech articles about upcoming products is hard enough without having to filter though and potentially second-guess the sort of questions your readership wants you to ask.
I get what you're trying to say but putting myself in the OP's shoes I'd probably miss many of the valid questions hidden behind the criticism because all I would see on my tight deadline is 'complaint, complaint, whinge, opinion, conjecture, complaint, question, complaint.....'
I am a confirmed PC user and require several applications that from my knowledge are not available in Win8. These include Camtasia (record how tos), MS Word (instructions), MS Access (roll marking) and Photoshop. For those of us confirmed PC Users Microsoft must ensure that we can continue to perform the tasks we need to do on our own computers and not depend on cloud apps and storage space mainly due to poor internet speeds along with privacy and safety concerns. Thus far I have not been able to install these in the relaeases to date so that is my biggest concern. Slats66
I've sat around our release candidate Win 8 with some other IT bods and its left us scratching our heads.
Am I the only one wondering who Microsoft are targetting?
To aim an OS at the touchy feely screen rubbers does not a business platform make.
I'm trying hard to find something to like about it. I want to like it... nothings helping at the moment.
Is there a windows 7 theme for it?
Am I the only one wondering who Microsoft are targetting?
To aim an OS at the touchy feely screen rubbers does not a business platform make.
I'm trying hard to find something to like about it. I want to like it... nothings helping at the moment.
Is there a windows 7 theme for it?
Its my understanding that Microsoft fully expects Windows 7 and Windows 8 to co-exist peacefully. They expect many businesses to never go to Win8 (those same businesses that are just now going to 7 are likely part of this group) If you have such a deep aversion to Metro, then Win 8 is not for you. And its OK just stay with 7. If the start screen gives you cold sweats at night, you can ignore the improved desktop in Win8 and stick with . I work for a gargantuan company and I presume we will stay with win7, as a whole, for years to come. however, I am also confident there will be many in our company that go to windows 8 for many different reasons. And that's fine, especially since they are managed the same behind the scenes.
That was a long way to go to get my question:
Will Windows 8 introduce a dual track setup like we saw in the Win NT/Pro and Win95/98/ME days? In other words, if Microsoft, informally, expects many businesses to skip 8 and go to 9, will they, formally, start to track them later on?
That was a long way to go to get my question:
Will Windows 8 introduce a dual track setup like we saw in the Win NT/Pro and Win95/98/ME days? In other words, if Microsoft, informally, expects many businesses to skip 8 and go to 9, will they, formally, start to track them later on?
Upon what do you base your impression? Has Microsoft said anything to support such a view?
http://www.windowsitpro.com/article/windows8/microsoft-windows-8-businesses-143238
Paul Confirmed that he "confirmed" this with Microsoft folks - (sort of a wink wink nudge nudge thing) on Windows Weekly.
Paul Confirmed that he "confirmed" this with Microsoft folks - (sort of a wink wink nudge nudge thing) on Windows Weekly.
I'd like to see a review where someone tries to perform their everyday IT job on a Windows 8 machine: what do they have to do differently - what works well; what will take some getting used to; what drawbacks they encounter.
I think for all those people waiting a suitable Windows Tablet this will be it. Also, for businesses that have a need for Tablets that dont want to go with iPads this is also the answer.
But the biggest market by far will be the consumer market. The people that have Windows PC's and want something that will allow them to tie together a Phone a Tablet and the XBox! I can't wait.
But the biggest market by far will be the consumer market. The people that have Windows PC's and want something that will allow them to tie together a Phone a Tablet and the XBox! I can't wait.
I have tried it out (and then removed it). I found it to be fairly worthless for use on a desktop or a laptop. In my opinion it might be alright for a smart phone with a touch screen (I don't use any of those) but for a PC it has no value.
Downloaded and tried to install Windows 8 preview and like many other people who blogged there results was unable to install as there CPU was not suitable. My CPU like a lot of other peoples were quite new and were running the consumer edition. So why has Microsoft not sorted this out before now.
Well I believe that Windows 8 will address two main points as the situation is quite different compared to the time Windows 7 was designed. The first point is the mobile devices in the enterprise. As some people already mentioned tablets and smartphones are almost everywhere since the childhood of the newcomers. The other point is the Cloud.
So my expectations are with Windows 8 MS to bring the desktop capabilities and the established and emerging Cloud services wherever we can took our smartphone and tablet.
Of course there are still some licensing issues and questions about the Metro style apps, but this is actually a turning point and it will take some time.
So my expectations are with Windows 8 MS to bring the desktop capabilities and the established and emerging Cloud services wherever we can took our smartphone and tablet.
Of course there are still some licensing issues and questions about the Metro style apps, but this is actually a turning point and it will take some time.
How many people who are taking a completely negative view are actually involved with managing a Windows domain? - Rolling out desktop images? trying to enforce some kind of corporate policy on mobile devices like iPhones, iPads and android devices.
Windows 8 is the next version of Windows, it will run on touch and non touch devices- laptops desktops, VDI. So far what sticks out for me is this- there will be Two distinct architectures- ARM devices i.e end user/consumer devices which I don't care about whatsoever, these will compete with iPads and android tablets as a toy- non ARM which will support Windows Domain standards Active Directory - group policy - heavily customized to suit whatever policy on whatever device- in other words I will have one version of Windows I can configure through machine policy for non touch UI devices and make it look and act exactly as windows 7 - One I can configure for tablets and touch UI with metro interface and the whole suite of corporate apps/policies - control of data, encryption, remote wipe, virtual apps, remote desktop. I could care less about what consumers think of Windows 8 v iPad (don't get me started)
Windows 8 is the next version of Windows, it will run on touch and non touch devices- laptops desktops, VDI. So far what sticks out for me is this- there will be Two distinct architectures- ARM devices i.e end user/consumer devices which I don't care about whatsoever, these will compete with iPads and android tablets as a toy- non ARM which will support Windows Domain standards Active Directory - group policy - heavily customized to suit whatever policy on whatever device- in other words I will have one version of Windows I can configure through machine policy for non touch UI devices and make it look and act exactly as windows 7 - One I can configure for tablets and touch UI with metro interface and the whole suite of corporate apps/policies - control of data, encryption, remote wipe, virtual apps, remote desktop. I could care less about what consumers think of Windows 8 v iPad (don't get me started)
Just how do you plan on customizing Win8 to "look and act exactly as windows 7"?
MS has gone to great pains to remove that ability. Even closing the routes that were being used to "customize" by hacks and 3rd party.
MS has gone to great pains to remove that ability. Even closing the routes that were being used to "customize" by hacks and 3rd party.
simple - I'll point to it and say 'look it's windows 7 without the start menu - apart from that IT LOOKS AND ACTS EXACTLY LIKE WINDOWS 7'
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