"single countries pushing nationalistic cloud agendas"
Like the USA? It is only one country after all, just like France, Greece,...
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Funny how none of these rules matter a damn when outsourcing jobs to cheap IT/Customer Service sheds in India.
The author's are clearly out of touch in Cloud initiatives outside the US with many examples of Healthcare and Goverment moving this way - Try looking up 'UK Government G cloud' in Google.
Here -saved you the effort
http://gcloud.civilservice.gov.uk/
The author's are clearly out of touch in Cloud initiatives outside the US with many examples of Healthcare and Goverment moving this way - Try looking up 'UK Government G cloud' in Google.
Here -saved you the effort
http://gcloud.civilservice.gov.uk/
India, South Korea, Taiwan and Hong Kong aren;t in Europe, if you didn't know
I would say that European ITC professionals prefer using much reliable platform than MS can offer. While you must to restart MS Windows "every other week" or it fails itself, other platforms can run for years without any human touch.
Aside from failing basic geography and a whole series of unjustifiable prejudices.
Cloud take up, was, is and will be held up for one simple reason. 99% of the benefits are to providers not consumers.
Try again this was embarassing.
Cloud take up, was, is and will be held up for one simple reason. 99% of the benefits are to providers not consumers.
Try again this was embarassing.
"We want to charge you a lot of money on a monthly basis to do what you're doing already. And it costs more than 'Remote Hosted Servers' because 'Cloud' has a nicer ring to it..."
Maybe we should all move to Europe so our privacy can be protected by a government
that cares about that?
Oh, yes, Hong Kong was part of the British Empire for 100s of years, but never part of Europe, also India, but SK never was...
And on Windows - it;s weekly reboots now. Monthly and bi-monthly 're-images'....
that cares about that?
Oh, yes, Hong Kong was part of the British Empire for 100s of years, but never part of Europe, also India, but SK never was...
And on Windows - it;s weekly reboots now. Monthly and bi-monthly 're-images'....
as the laws apply to businesses operating in Europe so the hosting services have to comply with the European laws for all their clients.
1. It's less secure than a system owned and managed by your company.
2. You no longer have control of your data, or your apps.
3. If you wake up later and realize you made a big mistake, you can't guarrantee you'll be able to recover your data in a usable form, if at all.
4. It undoes all the reasons why we had a PC revolution in the first place.
2. You no longer have control of your data, or your apps.
3. If you wake up later and realize you made a big mistake, you can't guarrantee you'll be able to recover your data in a usable form, if at all.
4. It undoes all the reasons why we had a PC revolution in the first place.
Clouding, brings with it benefits, no doubt but do these benefits negate the negatives such as:
Where is my data?
Who else has access to it?
Who's law does it come under, the housing location or the Owners?
How can someone demonstrate or make you comfortable about physical security and redundancy if you can't get to see it?
Oh yes and who's data is it when the Cloud dissipates?
Where is my data?
Who else has access to it?
Who's law does it come under, the housing location or the Owners?
How can someone demonstrate or make you comfortable about physical security and redundancy if you can't get to see it?
Oh yes and who's data is it when the Cloud dissipates?
Realistically speaking, 'The Cloud' will never dissipate. The Internet as a whole has come a lot farther over the last few years, although there's still a LOT of room for improvement before I'll totally trust it's 'invincibility'. What COULD happen is the hosting company goes belly up, and THEN your data goes to whoever scoops it up. (Legally, I'm sure it's still yours, but is that any consolation as whoever else is mining your sensitive data?)
When Cloud providers start 'sharing' the data amongst themselves for backup, that'll be a big step forward towards the Utopia they're envisioning...
When Cloud providers start 'sharing' the data amongst themselves for backup, that'll be a big step forward towards the Utopia they're envisioning...
I know of a case where a whole city was off the Internet for four days as their only physical link to the main communications trunk was destroyed when a bridge carrying the line collapsed. About half a kilometre of major trunk cables had to replaced before anyone had any communications out of the city and that took four days to do due to the issues involved with getting the cable across the two hundred metres of water safely in a way that was long term safe.
Can your business afford to be down for four days with no one being able to do their basic computing activities? I don't know of any that can, apart from the US Congress or the Australian Parliament.
Can your business afford to be down for four days with no one being able to do their basic computing activities? I don't know of any that can, apart from the US Congress or the Australian Parliament.
I'll keep my data to myself thanks. Non essential duplicate backup- maybe.
Can???t say that these issues are entirely to blame: we have a more pragmatic, ???look before you leap??? attitude in UK and EU business (I have spent plenty of time embedded in both and have experienced both sides of leading edge)
a couple of additional comments and a good collection of my blog and some reblogs of some real cloud and computing expertise, for your pleasure!
My blog on this post:
http://danielsteeves.wordpress.com/2012/06/08/1-more-reason-pragmatism-cloud-computing-four-reasons-why-it-isnt-taking-off-in-europe/
Feel free to find me on twitter @danielsteeves
a couple of additional comments and a good collection of my blog and some reblogs of some real cloud and computing expertise, for your pleasure!
My blog on this post:
http://danielsteeves.wordpress.com/2012/06/08/1-more-reason-pragmatism-cloud-computing-four-reasons-why-it-isnt-taking-off-in-europe/
Feel free to find me on twitter @danielsteeves
Europeans have always been very pragmatic and less eager to jump on new technologies than the US. That's not new. So, is there any difference as far as cloud is concerned?
Let me however first make a comment. I assume that Gartner talks about Public Cloud Adoption, because there are a lot of private cloud adoptions in Europe at the moment. At least as much as in the US. And many SMBs rely on their Telco's for cloud services. So, is the point gartner makes rather associated with the fact the adoption of AWS, Google and Microsoft Azure is lower?
There is one thing that slows cloud usage, but frankly this has nothing to do with cloud, it's the cross-border data transfer costs.
Yes, there are legislations. Actually the EU is doing a great effort at the moment to standardize legislation across the 27 countries. But it will not be the US legislation, and I believe that's what Gartner may not like.
Let me however first make a comment. I assume that Gartner talks about Public Cloud Adoption, because there are a lot of private cloud adoptions in Europe at the moment. At least as much as in the US. And many SMBs rely on their Telco's for cloud services. So, is the point gartner makes rather associated with the fact the adoption of AWS, Google and Microsoft Azure is lower?
There is one thing that slows cloud usage, but frankly this has nothing to do with cloud, it's the cross-border data transfer costs.
Yes, there are legislations. Actually the EU is doing a great effort at the moment to standardize legislation across the 27 countries. But it will not be the US legislation, and I believe that's what Gartner may not like.
Very nice blog.It is Very sad to know that cloud computing in Europe is not anymore emerging.As cloud computing now a days as a growing technology trend,it should be geographically well popularized in the world. cloud computing service models should be put on for marketing in Europe, so that best cloud computing can be established in whole Europe.
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