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        <title><![CDATA[no way in hell i can roll this out]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[I'm all for innovation but this is radically different.  How the heck can I roll this out?  it would involve intense training for every single person.  It's too different.  I get what Microsoft is doing but I can't imagine rolling this out on any kind of large scale.  they would kill the IT people.]]></description>
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        <pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2012 14:57:11 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[The answer is very simple, Microsoft don't do that as they feel]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[they ALWAYS know what's best for you, and know it better than you (the user) knows. That's why they want a total vendor lock in, so they can control your computing experience for you.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Deadly Ernest]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2012 14:26:11 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Couldn't agree more]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[We'd roll out Windows 8 if we could kill the metro UI.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[joshwillis]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2012 13:24:53 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Not only no, but HELL no.]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[As the sysadmin for our company, I see NO value add to justify going through the support headache of rolling out the abomination that is the metro UI to our users.  Windows 7 is a great product and we'll be sticking with it for the foreseeable future.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[joshwillis]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2012 13:20:30 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Poll to limited]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[This poll is too black and white. For example I don't think I will ever be deploying Windows 8 on Desktops or Laptops, However it MIGHT be deployed if we ever get Surface tablets in. I definitely see the benefit in having a Microsoft tablet integrated into my AD instead of trying to shoehorn in an iDevice or android (although androids work better). But being able to install my Windows only VPN client on a Microsoft tablet and having full office from it, would be pretty slick. However the Metro UI will never fly on traditional computers. Period.So if the question is will we ever deploy Windows 8 on traditional computers and laptops in our org, hell no. Will we consider deploying it on tablets, yes.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[tsadowski]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2012 08:08:11 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[If there were benefits to us, I would]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[You seem to take the tack that I haven't done this.  That simply isn't true.  The new Windows 8 interface does nothing valuable for MY users.  My mobile users are all using Android phones.  Everyone else uses a desktop, where the Metro interface frankly is more a hindrance than a help.Noone in my company is excited for Surface because it provides no value for us.  Most of my company operates in rural farming towns where it's hard to get reliable Internet access even with a physical line.  Wireless phone service can be spotty.  Tablets and such to us are a huge waste of money without connectivity.Further, everyone who is pushing Surface forgets one minor little detail: most apps aren't built for use through a touchscreen interface.  It's a completely different user experience than the keyboard/mouse.  Not that it can't be really nice, but until the APPS themselves are built to use that paradigm of interface, the user is going to get frustrated very easily.  Ever tried working on a spreadsheet from a tablet?  What an utter time-waster.  Editing documents isn't much better.  Until ALL apps have a mobile version for touch-based interfaces, they aren't going to see widespread adoption.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[blarman]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2012 07:46:59 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[There is a real issue to be concerned about here as you mentioned the use]]></title>
        <link><![CDATA[http://www.techrepublic.com/forum/discussions/102-393451-3688136]]></link>
        <description><![CDATA[of the Microsoft Tablet with Windows 8 on. Microsoft have already said there will be a number of versions and only one will have the full blown Win 8 with full capability, the rest will be very much cut back affairs. From what MS have said, any tablet with Win RT (the ARM version of Win 8) will NOT have VPN capability:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_8_editionsIt's also clear that ONLY the Windows 8 Pro and Windows 8 Enterprise editions can join a Windows domain, so you need to be sure they get systems with those versions of Win 8. Thus they'll be top end units only, and much dearer than they expect.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Deadly Ernest]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2012 22:23:16 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[VPN on W8]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[One of the 2 key pieces already works, the other is supposedly in Beta. What will I do if they don't, switch to a vendor who will of course. We haven't failed to provide VPN yet on any Windows version so failure is not a consideration.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Dasec]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2012 17:17:34 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[More to the point...]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[I want to know why (as he says) &quot;most of our workforce is excited about Windows 8 especially since MS showed Surface&quot; and how this particular &quot;technology can benefit their role and how they can take advantage of it&quot;.I ask because unless they are all planning to use tablets, or touch screen interefaces of some kind, I don't see any other added benefit or excitement for desktop users; neither I see how Windows 8 can really benefit my users' role when all they do is email, Word, Excel, RDP and AutoCAD.I also don't get the IT driving the business needs, instead of the other way around. Business needs dictate what is needed to be acomplished and then IT tries to find the best technological solution that at the same time does not bankrupt the business. It is not like you can walk into your CEO's office and say, &quot;we should get 1000 new Surface tablets because with them all employees can now check the company's facebook account when they are watching TV&quot;. simonh, ever heard of a &quot;business case&quot;? ROI?Thanks,]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[ricardoc@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2012 15:56:34 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Most of us in this dicussion have already tried it.]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Most of those responding have tried at least one of the three publicly available betas.  Our comments are based on those experiences.Our job isn't just to figure out how to adapt to new technologies.  It's also our job to advise or determine if they're worth the cost of adopting.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[CharlieSpencer_Palmetto]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2012 05:32:59 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[I might be persuaded to try it if...]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Maybe if MS gave IT pros a free fully licensed copy I would be willing to try 8. I just got 7 last year so I see no reason to jump to 8. I think most IT people look at 8 like they did Vista - why all the redesign for the enterprise? We need minimal flash and a way more secure and stable OS. Just rearranging the GUI and making it harder to do everyday tasks just doesn't cut it. I'm afraid that 8 just might go the way of Vista. If it had come out several years after Vista and 7 had never come out, then maybe it would be a different story. Most companies I know just got 7 going so most are in no hurry to jump to 8 anytime soon.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[USBPort1]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2012 05:19:31 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[As a matter of interst, just how long do you think it will take]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[for the vendors to create the VPN software, and what will you do if they don't? I also wonder how you'll manage if a person ends up with a unit that has Windows RT instead of the full Windows 8?]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Deadly Ernest]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2012 23:47:43 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[May install whatever the next version is if there is.]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Working in a Government Department where we are just in very early stages of deploying Windows 7 I don't see us using Windows 8 for multiple reasons.  Once we have a new SOE we wil have it for at the very least 4 years to tie in with our replecement PC cycle.  The interface is so radically different we would need a big training program whcih we have no money for.  The touch screen interface is appalling on a desktop and even frustrating at times on a touch enabled device. We certainly cannot aford the increased cost of moving to touch screen devices.At home I've been running the pre-release on a touch enabled laptop and ended up googling a patch to bring back the Windows 7 interface.  With the way most people work I don't like how native apps go full screen only.  This would have to be my biggest gripe it's ludicrious.Too much stuff is hidden away with no indication on where to find menus and options.  Basically I think the metro interface sucks and so does everyone I know who has tired to use it.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[ken.dally@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2012 22:29:31 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Microsoft as we know it.]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[I know there are already a lot of posts on 9gag, memebase, etc that jokes about Windows releases but really, you have to try it before judging. I also acknowledge that there are some quirkiness getting used to the new MetroUI and not able to find some old stuff. But didn't we had the same experience when moving from XP to Win7? We are IT professionals and it's our job to figure it out. End users/business users will not care about the advanced settings. All they want is being able to run their apps and do what they need to.Really, Windows 8 has totally amazed me with the presentation of MetroUI/&quot;The new Start Menu&quot; and it's performance. Articles will not be enough to describe it. Best thing for you guys to do is to download the consumer preview, install it on your spare machines in your IT department, test it out yourself and share the experience with some of your colleagues. It's really that good. It just need some getting used to.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[t3chn0m4nc3r04@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2012 21:49:23 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Mark, I agree that you've hit the target as to where Microsoft is aiming]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[for and where the sales will be, however Microsoft will NOT be splitting the sales figures apart and saying which are desktops and which aren't. You can also be sure MS will be using the sales on tablets and mobile devices to say they still control the desktop sales and claim them as evidence they're doing well in enterprise sales too.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Deadly Ernest]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2012 18:27:08 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Windows 8]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[As an ex employee and now part time consultant, I test and deploy software for VPN capability within a large corporation for use on both Corporate and Home owned Windows PC's. As soon as Windows 8 is released there will be an expectation from Home Users that we will have VPN ready for Tablets, Desktops or Laptops. For this reason I have already installed Windows 8 on a Laptop and am waiting for the vendors to get the VPN software ready.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Dasec]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2012 17:59:05 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[maybe this will help]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[check out the link in this TR gallery posthttp://www.techrepublic.com/photos/first-look-microsoft-office-2013/6374698]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Who Am I Really]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2012 13:28:05 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Win8 with a one-click switchover to &quot;Desktop&quot; mode would be a hit]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[I agree with Darren B (&quot;If Win8 doesn't change, neither will we...&quot;). I've been using the preview of Win8 and actually like it - it's pretty good on my (no touch screen) desktop and I think it would be great on a tablet. I also think it would be a home run IF Microsoft simply allowed you to just toggle into a Win7 desktop environment. Why Microsoft does not see the obvious benefit of allowing the END USER to decide between Metro and Desktop (and possibly getting way more consumer and business converts) is beyond me...]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[scion111@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2012 12:04:41 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[I don't think you should upgrade]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[I state very clearly that I don't think enterprises are going to upgrade to Windows 8 because they really don't have any reason to do so. The difference I have with Leo, John, and Gina is that I don't think that is how we should measure the success of Windows 8. The sale of Windows 8 tablets, mobile devices and Metro Apps is going to be where the real success or failure will be measured.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark W. Kaelin]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2012 11:38:40 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[WIN 8  &amp;  OFFICE 2013...]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[...both are congenial, if they are placed on a separate system &amp; new - old without any ballast! I test this at present and can not comment negative...!]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[goberkofler@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2012 11:19:13 -0700</pubDate>
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