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to me as they would be say if I was doing admin, where the version-go-round seems to be a lot more important.

Can't say how I would do now, if I could wind the clock back 30 years. I'd have to have a degree, and certs, who knows may be I would say stuff this for a lark, and do something else.

One thing I can say, is there would be none of this from scratch drivel.