For what you get. The components come to about $4000 admittedly, but what's the extra $3000 for? It's presumably aimed at high end users,, but HP surely wouldn't want to scalp its customers just because they can, would they?
All that said, it does look good though!
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If this Z1 is an entry level computer then what are the specs the pros use? The seven grand must be going to buy the SSD hard drives. Also, are the SSD's running in raid mode? And I agree with rigbi001 ... $4000 maybe ... but $7000?
This is NOT an entry level computer. 2 300GB SSDs + 16GB of RAM + Quadro 4000M is near high end hardware specs. An entry level computer would have 4GB of RAM, a 300GB 7200RPM spin drive and maybe a Quadro 2000 tops.
Other than that, great article - thanks for the pics and info!
Other than that, great article - thanks for the pics and info!
See my reply to kmadison's original post. I called the Z1 a "workstation", not a computer.
The Z1 isn't and entry-level computer, and I never said it was. I purposefully called the Z1 as an entry level "workstation"--a term used to describe a high-performance desktop used for intensive computing tasks such as MCAD, 3D modeling, scientific simulation. You wouldn't buy a Z1 and give it to someone in accounting--unless they were running extremely complex financial calculations.
HP offers a complete line of workstations--the Z1, Z220, Z420, Z620, and Z820. Pricing for the Z820 starts around $2,300, but a fully-loaded Z820 can top $10,000.
Another factor contributing to the price is the 3-year, on-site warranty that comes standard with the Z1 and all HP workstations.
HP offers a complete line of workstations--the Z1, Z220, Z420, Z620, and Z820. Pricing for the Z820 starts around $2,300, but a fully-loaded Z820 can top $10,000.
Another factor contributing to the price is the 3-year, on-site warranty that comes standard with the Z1 and all HP workstations.
dont we all get yelled at,,,i like the design of it looks easy too swap out parts to upgrade
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Having done this job for over a decade, I'm used to it. Honestly, I wouldn't have it any other way. TechRepublic has THE best audience of IT professionals and business technology users--bar none. And, they aren't shy about expressing their opinions, sharing their experiences, and offering assistance. I wouldn't want to work for a site that didn't have TR's vibrant, vocal community.
i am sorry i get a little confused when am talking bout tech and some one charges back like i am talking bad about thier moms,or thier girlfriends .gee it is about tech.I need to know info so I can fixt or god forbid one of my many family and friends systems go down. though it does not happen offen because of the advice i have receved from you and others at cent .hell i dont even know how much of apples programing but it almost rivals what i have in windows. i guess i have to put up with some crap to get the fruit.
Overpriced for the hardware you get, workstation or not, $7k for a Xenon with 16GB of DDR3 RAM? And only 2x300GB SSDs, it's still incredibly overpriced (even factoring the Quadro, which is a damn good card actually). So you're paying for maybe ~$1,500-2,000 worth of hardware, and ~$5,000 for the design/form factor.
Absolute waste IMHO, I don't think they're going to sell many of these, but there are a lot of fools out there with too much money to spend, so I could be wrong.
Absolute waste IMHO, I don't think they're going to sell many of these, but there are a lot of fools out there with too much money to spend, so I could be wrong.
What's the upgrade path? I'm used to dealing with workstations with 48-96 GB of DDR3 and 1 GB NVIDIA graphics cards. Of course, these are 60 lb tower chases, but at 47 lbs, weight is not such a big deal. 7k-11k per workstation equipped with HP2405 24" displays. Not too shabby
Overpriced it may be, but I REALLY like the way you can easily open it to upgrade.
*Sigh*...why can't Apple do that? :-\
(Actually, I think I know: maintenance/repair forms a lucrative revenue stream...) >:-(
*Sigh*...why can't Apple do that? :-\
(Actually, I think I know: maintenance/repair forms a lucrative revenue stream...) >:-(
As others have said, $7,000 is far too much to pay for this. Why not review a configuration that would actually be commonly bought? And if you need 600gb of HD space, I doubt you're going to go SSD unless you have tons of extra money to burn.
I don't get it, its priced higher than many high end servers.
I've found when running windows 7, I can spend less than $1,000 for a tower, or a Laptop that works just fine for this C# developer. Now, the big screen is nice. The fact that it all fits in one box is pretty cool too, but would I drop $7,000.00 of my own money for a box like that, no thank you! Would I ask my employer to buy hardward like that? No, I can't even get close to justifying it! This is a no brainer. 'No, I'll pass on this unit'!
Correct me if I am wrong but, the teardown lists 16gb of DDR3-1600 ECC RAM, but Intel's spec site shows that the board supports 32gb's of DDR3-1066/1333 max, so why would you go through the effort of putting in 1.6ghz ram if it will run at the lower frequency anyway? is this a different chipset or does the installed (As above) RAM have some other technical benefit other than costing more?
Because Bluetooth sucks ditchwater through a short straw (IMHO). My many experiences with it are a list of frustration & fail. Device not found, device not recognized, pairing denied. On the joyful occasions when I have gotten my BT mouse & laptop to come - I used to use an MS BT mouse with my laptop, & after some fussing, could achieve pairing - their happy union ended the minute I closed the laptop. Aren't they supposed to STAY linked??
USB works.
USB works.
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